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Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Posted: 26 Aug 2009 2:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wolf, Selz, Sabel
I have a Helene "Lena" Wolf in my tree, first wife of my uncle's grandfather Ernest Selz, a dry goods merchant.

From what I've found online her parents were Joseph Wolf and Johanna Koch from Guntersblum, Germany. They settled in Louisville.

Lena and Ernest had at least 3 children: Samuel b 1890, Jennie b 1892, and Leonard born 1894, one week before Lena died.

Lena died 15 Dec 1894 in Louisville; I don't know where she was buried. Ernest married again, to a Catherine Dora Gillett in Manatee, Florida, on 19 Sept 1900 and had 3 more children: Ernestine b 1902, Alton Ernest b 1904, and Bertram Ernest b 1908. I can't locate the family in 1910 and in 1920 Dora is widowed. I'd like to find out more about Ernest or locate descendents of his.

His daughter Ernestine was my great granduncle's mother and spoke of relatives in Tampa who had the Maas department store there.

I would also like to know of there was a Louisville Wolf brother who died in the 1880s or 90s who married Fannie Sabel; she was married about 1886 and widowed in 1900.

Re: Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Posted: 26 Aug 2009 4:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm not related to this family.

Name: Ernest Selz
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Place: Germany
Est. Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship to Head: Husband
Spouse Name: Dora C.
Census Year: 1935
Locality: Precinct 3
County: Duval

Ernest Selz 62, GER [listed as deceased]
Dora C. Selz 60, FL

1930 -
Name: Samuel Selz
Home in 1930: Tampa, Hillsborough, Florida
View Map
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Military service: YES = WWI
Parents' birthplace: GER/GER
Samuel Selz 39, KY - clothing salesman

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Samuel Selz
City: Tampa
County: Hillsborough
State: Florida
Birthplace: Louisville, Kentucky
Birth Date: 7 Jun 1890
Race: White
Private - Flordia
Disability discharge National Guard
signed: June

1920 -
Name: Leonard Selz [using middle name??]
Home in 1920: Tampa Ward 3, Hillsborough, Florida
Age: 25 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Germany
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

1910 - is this Lena's family???
Name: Sam Selz
Age in 1910: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Germany
Home in 1910: Tampa Ward 3, Hillsborough, Florida
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male

Fred Wolfe 37, GER
Thekla Wolfe 34, GER
Joe L Wolfe 10, FL
Harald F Wolfe 5, FL
Maurie Wolfe 39, GER = divorced, MOTHER???
Sam Selz 19, KY - salesman

1900 -
Name: Earnest Selz
Home in 1900: Flemingsburg, Fleming, Kentucky
Age: 45
Birth Date: Feb 1855
Birthplace: Germany
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : Flemingsburg Town, Fleming, Kentucky
Occupation: dry goods merchant

Earnest Selz 45, 2/55 GER - immigrated 1881
Samuel Selz 9, 6/90 KY
Jennie Selz 8, 5/92 KY
Leonard Selz 5, 12/94 KY
Carrie Wolfe 37, 8/62 GER - widowed, 3 children & 0 living [listed as sister; should be s/inlaw] immigrated 1886








Re: Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Posted: 8 Mar 2010 8:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi! Amazing to find this reference.

Bertram Ernest Selz was my grandfather. He married Jessie Mae Durrence (b. 1906, Tattnall County, Georgia) in 1926 in Charlotte, NC - they had one son, my father Bertram Neil Selz in 1927.

I had lost any hope of finding out anything about him. We knew that my father had an uncle Alton Selz but were unable to find out anything about him.

Love to know if you're still out there!

Lannis Neil Selz
Spout Spring, Virginia

Re: Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Posted: 28 Jul 2010 3:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: WOLF, SABEL
I am on the Sabel side and know almost nothing of the Wolf family, but here is what I have:

Elias WOLF Jr
b Apr 17 1846
d May 4 1893
bur: Adas (Adath) Israel, Kentucky, USA
m
Fannie SABEL
b Aug 26 1859 Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, USA
d Jan 20 1952 Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, USA
bur: Adas (Adath) Israel, Kentucky, USA

Source:
http://www.meyerfuneral.com/The%20Temple%20burials%20pg7.htm

Re: Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Posted: 13 Jun 2012 2:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello -

I am the granddaughter of Jennie Selz (Ernest Selz's daughter with Lena Wolf). Jennie Selz married Hyman Wertheim and had two daughters - Lorraine Wertheim and Julianne Wertheim Clements (my mother). I am wondering if you have found any additional information about Ernest Selz and his parents/family?

The family in Tampa, Florida owned the Wolf Brothers Emporium. I can send you additional information if you are still interested?

Thanks,

Kate Clements Grensing

Re: Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Posted: 13 Jun 2012 3:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Kate,

I'd very much like further information, yes!

No, I've not found more on Ernest yet

I do think it's interesting is that Ernestine Selz (daughter of Ernest with Catherine Dora Gillet) named her youngest son Julian, while her half sister Jennie named her daughter Julianne. I wonder if the name comes from Ernest's family.

My direct email is chris at brennan-families dot com (replace the appropriate words with symbols), if you'd like to contact me that way. You're also welcome to message me through ancestry or reply here.

Re: Wolf family, Ernest Selz, Fannie Sabel

Posted: 5 Mar 2013 12:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Kate, I have some more information available now. Could you contact me via messages with your email adress, and I'll send you what I have?

Chris
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