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Sylvanus Collett ... Marion Collett

Sylvanus Collett ... Marion Collett

Posted: 30 Jun 2012 9:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Dec 2012 1:44PM GMT
Surnames: Collett, Merrill
My great-grandfather, Marion Collett, was allegedly the son of Sylvanus Collett, Cache Valley, UT I believe he grew up in this home but have strong reasons to believe he may have been adopted or fostered -- does any one know if this is possible. His mother was listed as Lodema Merrill but I do not think he was really her son. For one thing, he was illiterate and this seems odd for this prominent family. He looks nothing like them and he was born at sea according to his death cert. He was also five years younger than the last child born to Lodema and she was in her 40s when he was born.

Sylvanus Collett ... Marion Collett ?Marion College (b. abt. 1863)?

Posted: 29 Sep 2012 11:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Oct 2012 5:10PM GMT
Surnames: Collet, College
Hi,

I can't find the Marion Collette you mention. I found two family trees with Sylvanus b. 1866, Smithfield, Cache, UT and died 1932 Vernal, Uintah, UT. He was married twice but neither wife was Lodema. Also he didn't have a child named Marion.

I DID find Marion College, b. abt. 1863 in Utah who in 1910 was living in Butte, Silver Bow, MT. Is he the Marion you're looking for?

1910 the last name was definitely Collett

Posted: 30 Sep 2012 2:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Oct 2012 5:12PM GMT
Surnames: Collett
The first name, birthplace and place of residence in 1910 are the same, but the last name was definitely Collett.

"The Collett Trial" in Salt Lake City, 1878 newspaper.

Posted: 1 Oct 2012 1:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Oct 2012 5:27PM GMT
Surnames: Collett
Sylvan Collett was involved in what was headlined as
"The Collett Trial" in Salt Lake City, 1878.
The story is difficult to understand and would take some time to piece all of the articles together to figure it out.

Any of this familiar to you?

Sylvanus Collett (d. 1932) (m. 1904) Ethelwynn Stringham, Salt Lake City

Posted: 1 Oct 2012 2:10AM GMT
Classification: Marriage
Edited: 1 Oct 2012 5:20PM GMT
Surnames: Collett, Stringham
Sylvanus Collett was married to Ethelwynn Stringham according to his death certificate, he died April 29 1932 (do I have the correct person, if so I will provide more from his death cert)

Groom Last Name: COLLETT
Groom First Name: Sylvanus
Bride Last Name: STRINGHAM
Bride First Name: Ethelwynn
Place: Salt Lake City
Date: 20 Jan 1904
County of Record: Salt Lake
State: Utah

Re: 1910 the last name was definitely Collett

Posted: 2 Oct 2012 4:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
My mistake - the name in the 1910 Census is Marion Collette but it's a she with children Leslie, May, otetia and Myrtle.

Re: Sylvanus Collett (d. 1932) (m. 1904) Ethelwynn Stringham, Salt Lake City

Posted: 2 Oct 2012 2:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
I think that's actually a different Sylvanus Collett. It seems he had a nephew who was named after him. Our Sylvanus Collett was born in 1835 and died some time in the late 1800s or early 1900s.

Re: "The Collett Trial" in Salt Lake City, 1878 newspaper.

Posted: 2 Oct 2012 2:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
I recall reading something about Sylvanus being involved in some type of massacre, but I don't know if that's related.

Re: 1910 the last name was definitely Collett

Posted: 2 Oct 2012 8:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Mistakes are pretty common on the Census. "Otetia" was actually Lucretia, and there was another daughter named Pearl.

Re: Sylvanus Collett ... Marion Collett

Posted: 2 Oct 2012 9:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
When you post, it is important to identify some criteria information about the persons you seek, their date of birth/place of birth are always helpful to volunteers. The year of birth or even an age of Marion at some known time (US Census, etc) would help find him. You did later identify that Sylvanus Collett was born about 1835 (where?).
--Based on the below research, it appears Marion was the son of Lydia Karren. Family tree records show Sylvanus married Phoebe in 1864. Phoebe was living with a new husband in the 1880 Census. Some family tree records also show Marion as being the son of Phoebe.

Without knowing what information you already have, your resources (member of Ancestry?) have your own posted family tree and other source material, I probably did more below than I should, as you may already have this data. There is a great amount of information online...and inconsistent without source documentation.

The 1856 Census of Lehi City, Utah County, UT shows a Sylvanus Collett. there were a number of other Collett in Lehi City, to include a Reuben (see below).

The 1860 Census of (unstated area), Cache Co, Utah Territory.
Syvaney Collett, age 25 (1864/1865) in England
Lydia, 21, England
Esther A, 1, Utah Territory

The 1870 Census of Logan, Cache Co, UT
Sylonus (as written/transcribed), 36 (1834/1835), Ohio
Lydia, 32, OH
Esther, 11
Lydia 9
Sylvester 7
Samuel 6(?)
Howard(?), 3?5?
Marion, 2/12
Mary, 2/12
--The census was enumerated on 22 July 1870, so Marion was born about April May 1870. So, it appears he was the son of Lydia.
--The 1880 Census of Smithfield, Cache Co, UT
William A Thompson, 47
Phoebe L, age 47
Samuel Collett, 13, Step-son
Mary Collett, 10, Step-dau
Marion Collett, 10, Step-son
---Marion was now living with Phoebe and a new husband. Below shows a family tree identifying Sylvanus did not marry Phoebe until 1864.

The 1880 Census of Cokeville, Uinta County, Wyoming
Sylvanus Collett, age 45 (1834/1835), born in England, a famer.
Nellie, wife, age 27 (1852/1853), born in Utah
Sylvester, 16 (1863/1864), Utah
Thomas, 14 (1865/1866), Utah
Reuben, 10 (1869/1870), Utah
Fanny, 8 (1871/1872), Utah
Nellie, 7 (1872/1873), Idaho
Robert W, 4 (1875/1876) Wyoming
Rose, 1 (1878/1879), Wyoming.
--This wife, Nellie, would have been about 10-12 years of age when Sylvester and Thomas were born...probably not their mother. So it appears their mother was Lydia. This Reuben was 10, the same age Marion would have been.
--So it appears that Sylvanus remarried between 1870 and 1880. There is no proof of the disappearance of Lydia (death, divorce, runaway, etc). The last known appearance of her was two months after the birth of Marion and Mary. Could this have been a difficult birth causing her later death? Could the "illiteracy" that you identified have been caused by a difficult birth versus lack of education. Many are called illiterate but the cause is often medical than educational environment.

1880 Census of Escalante, Iron County, UT
Reuben Collett, age 39 (1840/1841) born in England
had a son Sylvanus, age 13(1866/1867), born in UT.
--This represents a possible brother and nephew of the above Sylvanus.

The 1900 Census of Cokeville, Uinta Co, WY
Sylvanus, born May 1835 in England
Nellie, born Feb 1853 (shown as in England)
Burt, Aug 1880
Roy, Nov 1881
William R, June 1877

The 1900 Census of Browns Point, Routt Co, Colorado
Sylvanus Collett, born Dec 1866 in Utah, father born in England/mother PA
Sarah, born Oct 1865 in UT, three children all born in UT.
--The Western States Marriage Index shows a Sylvanus Collett marriage to Sarah E. Simkins in Cache County, UT in 1889.

The 1910 Census of North Ashley, Uintah Co, UT
Sylvanus, age 45 (1865) in UT, second marriage to:
Ethelwyn, age 35, married 7 years.
--The Western States Marriage Index shows marriage to Ethelwynn Stringham in 1904 in Salt Lake City.

I find a number of family trees concerning Sylvanus. While unsourced "facts" seem to spread on them, they show: He was born 3 May 1835 in Wellington, England, died 10 April 1901 in Cokerville, Lincoln County, WY. He married Lydia Karren in 1853. He married Phoebe Lodema Merrill in 1864. He died 10 April 1901 in Cokerville. Lydia is shown born 29 Dec 1838 in Liverpool, England, death on 15 Nov 1865 in Logan, Cache Co, UT. So there is a date problem between her death date and showing up in the 1870 Census and his marriage to Phoebe Merrill; unless they had separated, or being in Utah, this was a marriage of bigamy. Sylvanus father was Daniel Collett born in England, died 1894 in Smithfield, Cache Co, UT. A family tree found concerning Reuben Collett shows his father was also Daniel Collett. This "tree" shows Sylvanus having five spouses: Lydia Karren, Elizabeth Frances Preator; Sarah Jane Lawarence (born 1835 in Ohio); Lucy Ann Merrill, born 1808??? in Byron, New York; Phoebe Lodema Merrill, born 1832 in Elba, New York.
--In a second posting to this one, it appears his father was also married five times.

From the book "History of Utah: 1540-1886" pages 562-563:
Among other atrocities laid to the charge of the Mormons was one known as the Aiken massacre, which also occurred during the year 1857. Two brothers of that name, with four others, returnin from California to the eastern states, were arrested in southern Utah as spies, and, as was alleged, four of the party were escorted to Nephi, where it was arranged that Porter Rockwell and Sylvanus Collett should assassinate them. While encamped on the Sevier River they were attacked by night, two of them being killed and two wounded, the latter escaping to Nephi, whence they started for Salt Lkae City, but were murdered on their way at Willow Springs. Although the guilty parties were well known, it was not until many years later that one of them, named Collett, was arrested and in October 1878 was tried and acquitted at Provo. All the efforts of Judge Cradlebaugh availed nothing, and soon afterward he dischard the prisoners and adjourned his court sine die, entering on his docket the following minute: "The whole community presents a united and organized opposition to the proper administration of justice."
--There are also two postscripts at the bottom of page 563:
http://books.google.com/books?id=1TAPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA562&a...

In the book, Progressive Men of the State of Wyoming:
http://books.google.com/books?id=gOMDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA200&a...
is found quite a bio on Sylvanus.

Ron Bestrom
Tacoma, WA
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