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Indian Army uniform

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 11:50AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 27 Oct 2012 1:35PM GMT
Can anyone recognise this uniform. I believe the photo was taken around 1900 in East India
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Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 4:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
He's a Royal Artillery officer. He has the two pips of a lieutenant on his shoulders and what looks like the flaming grenade of the ryal artillery on his collar. One thing is his cap badge doesn't look like a Royal Artillery badge. His lower right sleeve has 4 overseas chevrons, one for each year of overseas service. From the rank pips on the shoulders and the ribbons, I would say this photo dates from after 1920. Prior to WW1 the British officers wore rank on thier cuffs, the practice gradually disappeared during the war and was abolished in 1920. Have you tried the Indua Office at the British Library to see if they have any records for this person? You might also want to check the London Gazette for awards and decorations.

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 27 Oct 2012 4:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thankyou for your help.

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 28 Oct 2012 6:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
This is a Royal Engineers officer, not Artillery...Arty have a cannon cap badge.

Difficult to tell what the medal ribbons are, but I'd also put it post-1920, possibly even early 30's.

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 8:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thankyou for your response. I have another picture of him in civilian clothes which was taken 1909, which seems to suggest the uniform one was taken around that time.

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 2:28PM GMT
Classification: Military
Edited: 29 Oct 2012 3:08PM GMT
Surnames: Fordham
For reasons already stated by others, I’m 100% certain the photograph is post WWI at least 1920’s, it certainly isn’t a 1909 photograph.

From the catalogued descriptions of the WWI Medal Index Cards at the National Archives, Kew, he has a MIC (high quality colour scans of original cards on Ancestry).

Fordham, Harry
Corps: Labour Corps Royal Engineers, Indian Army, Indian Army Reserve of Officers, Rank Lieutenant.

Always difficult to identify medals from b&w images, but I’ll stick my neck out.
I suspect his 4 medals are (left to right): British War Medal (WWI); Victory Medal (WWI); either the India General Service Medal 1908-1935 or the General Service Medal 1918-1962; last unknown.

After checking the Medal Index Card to confirm his WWI Medal awards, I suggest a search of the UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949 database on Ancestry to confirm the none WWI awards; be aware it may only identify clasps for the IGSM or GSM medals.

Do you know much about him?

Jeff

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 4:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
His name was Harry Fordham. He married in 1908 in England and then he & his wife returned to India. Between 1913 & 1935 he returned 4 times and his occupation on passenger list was shown as an inspector - we believe on the Indian Railways.

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 29 Oct 2012 10:09PM GMT
Classification: Immigration
Edited: 31 Oct 2012 1:15PM GMT
You said, “he returned 4 times and his occupation on passenger list was shown as an inspector”.

Haven’t found one for 1913, but there are several mentions on outgoing passenger lists England to India that could be him.

2 April 1908, Ship Sunda, passengers outbound London to Calcutta, India.
Mr H Fordham, Occupation Gent & Mrs Fordham, Lady, age not given.

4 May 1920, Ship Circassia, passenger outbound Liverpool to Bombay, India
Lieut. H Fordham, occupation Army, age 37, unaccompanied

1 October 1926, Ship Kaiser I Hind, passengers outbound London to Bombay India
Mr Harry Fordham, occupation Engineering Inspector, age 43, & Wife Kate Fordham
(Wife’s name matches possible wife in GRO marriage registrations as Kate Quick)

12 October 1932, Ship Ranpura, passengers outbound London to Bombay, India
Mr Harry Fordham, occupation Engineer, age 50, & Kate Fordham

24 September 1935, Ship Mooltan, passenger outbound London to Bombay, India
Harry Fordham, occupation Engineering Sig, age 53, unaccompanied.

Ycasso suggested you should check the India Office Records at the British Library and I certainly second that, they should have something about his army record and if he was an engineer/inspector on the Indian Railway they may have more information. If his wife died between 1932 & 1935 they should also have her death registration.

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 30 Oct 2012 8:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thankyoufor all of that info,. How did you find outgoing lists - I could only find incoming.

Re: Indian Army uniform

Posted: 30 Oct 2012 2:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Inbound and outbound passenger lists are held at the National Archives, Kew; document series BT26 are inbound lists and series BT27 outbound lists.

Both document series have been digitised and put online under the Licensed Internet Associateship scheme, for more details see http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-perso...

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