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Vance Roy (View posts)
Posted: 16 Apr 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: VANCE, SMALL
I would like information on the parents and ancestors of William VANCE, Jr., the son of William and Mary (SMALL) VANCE. William Jr. was born in Belfast, Ireland about 1828. William Sr. and Mary came to the USA from
Belfast about 1828 and located in New Orleans, LA. William, Sr. was a linen draper and bleacher and was in New Orleans until about 1840 when he moved back to Belfast. William, Jr. was evidently left in Belfast to be educated but came to new Orleans in 1838. He worked as a clerk in a
wholesale grocery house.

I have more on the life of William, Jr., but I would like to know about the ancestors of both William VANCE, Sr. and his wife Mary SMALL.

Re: Belfast Ireland

Posted: 31 Mar 2004 7:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: VANCE, MONTGOMERY, MARTIN...Belfast
Hi Roy

I am also researching the name VANCE. I am looking for any info on a Mary Agnes Vance who married a Montgomery, no first name, sorry. She later married a Hugh Martin. They lived in Matilda St, Sandy or Sandie Row, Belfast. I know she had a brother Richard and sisters Ruby & Sissy or Sissie. She would have been born around the early 1900's. If you have any of these names I would love to hear from you.

Thank You
Karen from down under in Oz

Re: Belfast Ireland

Posted: 24 Apr 2008 11:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
I'm not sure I can help but I'm now actively researching the Vance families of Ireland, America and elsewhere and I'd be really interested in an exchange of info. Do get in touch. You can email me directly at jvans@dsl.pipex.com if you like.
Regards,
Jamie.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~vfarch

Re: Belfast Ireland

Posted: 7 Apr 2012 2:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Vance, Wilson
My grandmother's maiden name was Vance, and she was from Belfast. Her siblings were James,and Nellie. There may have been more but I am unsure. My grandmother was referred to as Maisie, but her real name was MaryAnn. She was first married to an Alfred Wilson in Belfast. Alfred died young. They had two children, my father David and his brother Raymond. In the 40's my grandmother met a US soldier and married him and moved to NY with her two sons. Nellie, if I recall correctly, married a Callahan in Belfast and had many children. Most of them relocated to the United States as well, but Nellie remained in Belfast until her death. James never married, and also remained in Belfast until his death. I know nothing more about my family history. If anyone has information on Alfred Wilson or the Vance's I would appreciate it. The story is my grandfather, Alfred, was a ship builder. He had steel lodged in his brain and went blind before he passed. I have no knowledge of any other family that may still be in Ireland but would love to touch base

Re: Belfast Ireland

Posted: 8 Apr 2012 2:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Maureen; in answer to your question probably the most complete collected information on the Irish Vances - especially those from Ulster - is Jamie Vans' website at http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vfarch. I can't guarantee he's got your Vances indexed there already but you've got the best chance of finding them there.

Otherwise if you contacted the Vance family association at http://www.vancefamilyassociation.org (see contact info there) they might be able to tell you if they have any info on your line or perhaps who might be researching it.

Otherwise you're stuck with Ancestry.com, the LDS Church records (familysearch.org) or direct Irish records (many of which have been indexed by sites like RootsIreland but there is still no substitute for in-country research).

I have some general background on the Vance family name in Ulster in book 1 at http://sites.google.com/site/vancepath; at least on the most common story of the ancestry of the name in Ireland (the Norman de Vaux). That doesn't mean your Vance ancestry in Ireland might not have come from another origin. But that won't help you if you're looking for specific family lines.

The other usual recommended source is the Vance DNA study group at http://www.vancegenealogy.com, but they're only researching the Y-SNP DNA lines at the moment (the male lines, following the surname) and so would only be useful really if you have any male relatives who still descend directly from males with the Vance surname and so could be tested (or perhaps have been already) to tell you which of the 9 genetic groups of Vances yours came from (if not a new line!).

Sorry for the general suggestions but best of luck in your search!

Dave Vance

Re: Belfast Ireland

Posted: 8 Apr 2012 5:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Maureen,
Dave Vance is right to send you to my database - but there is now a new version, much easier to search and easier to keep up to date at http://genealogy.jvans.co.uk/intro.html

However, I've looked for Maisie without success. It's almost impossible to find such recent records online; the 1911 and 1901 Irish censuses are free and pretty accurately transcribed at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/, but I doubt they'll be any help - too early unless you knew her parents' names.

I do wish you good luck and I'd love to know if you have any success.
Regards,
Jamie.

Re: Belfast Ireland

Posted: 8 Apr 2012 1:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you all for your feedback on locating Maisie (Mary Anne) Vance info. I am very new to this and learning. My father when he passed left me an orange sash that was his fathers. Does anyone know if there is any way to search from the medals on the sash?

Re: Belfast Ireland

Posted: 8 Apr 2012 1:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
No idea about the sash, I'm afraid. But Orange organisations still exist in Northern Ireland.

I meant to say that you could look for records at http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie. Beware of the cost! And I don't know whether there is anything recent enough to be any use to you.

Jamie.
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