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help with a will and other things

Posted: 17 Nov 2012 12:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am trying to figure out the best way to get any death or burial information...AND a copy of the will for Harvey Francis DeMontmorency who died on 25 Dec 1874. The British Calendar of Wills shows that his estate was granted on 21 Jan 1875 at Dublin to Frederick Harvey DeMontmorency. He had effects in England that were mentioned on the British Calendar. I am looking to link this Harvey Francis to a line I'm researching, and I need more evidence! I would love to have ANY data that can help me untangle a web of DeMontorencys!

Can anyone advise me??
Thanks!
Kathleen

Re: help with a will and other things

Posted: 1 Dec 2012 7:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Copies of wills may be difficult as in Ireland it is basically only the indexes that remain. The Four Courts Fire in Dublin 1922 took most of these records.

Electoral Register voters 1837 for those registered 1832

Harvey P. DeMontmorency,Esquire Mountjoy Square, West House
#474.

Index of Wills:

W.R. DeMontmorency 1829 Executor Henry Devereaux
Occupation: Knight
Prerogative Court
Will Transcript
National Archives NA 1WR/1829/F/247, Vol. name 4/236/14

Directories:

1870: Kilkenny
Harvey DeMontmorency, J.P. Castlemorres, Kilmaganny
(Justice of Peace)

There is supposed to be an 1894 directory entry Bray, Wicklow for a Rose DeMontmorency but I was unable to locate on the page I was given, went back a page and ahead a page! it should come just before DeSousa but it doesn't.

1901 Irish Census:
There are 20 DeMontmorency for all Ireland but mostly Dublin
1901/1911 www.census.nationalarchives.ie

If you want to go back to 1820-1839 the Tithe records might be of assistance.

www.genealogy.nationalarchives.ie

Also PRONI in Belfast has information that might be relevant.

www.landedestates.ie has a few DeMontmorency Estates

a Frederick mentioned in Wicklow 1870 Baltinglass, Wicklow at Broughhillshouse owning 1,022 acres in Mayo and 428 in Co. Carlow.

Birth records for Wicklow are available on a not for profit,
History Foundation but not Carlow. Baltinglass however, is in Wickow and the Union of Baltinglass only covers part of Carlow.

On an old CD set from the Latter Day Saints, there are
Church of Ireland marriage records from 1845-1862 but only
1 person

Joseph Montmorency married Margaret Lillie 16 Aug 1855 recorded in South Dublin, Dublin
Fa: Harvey Montmorency Fa: John Lillie LDS FHL Film #101366

If part of the gentry often baptims and marriages took place
in Dublin sort of a social society thing. One in particular
would be a marriage of a daughter of a Fitzwilliam of Yorkshire who owned land in Yorkshire but he did own much land in Wicklow, bits of Carlow and Wexford. His daughter married in the Cathedral in Dublin. Most of the Gentry and
above had homes in Dublin as well as in the counties as well. They moved to their Dublin Houses for the 'social season'.

Have you tried the Registry of Deeds-Ireland its a rootsweb
freepages.genealogy website. Last updated Nov. 20, 2012

Annette Code

Re: help with a will and other things

Posted: 1 Dec 2012 8:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Dec 2012 8:51PM GMT
Thank you very much for your reply! I've managed to find a bit more information. I am certain that my Maria Louisa DeMontmorency (married at St. Patrick's in 1853...is this "the cathedral"?) is the daughter of Harvey Francis DeMontmorency. I am just not yet able to prove that it is the SAME Harvey Francis that is the illegitimate son of Viscount Lodge Evans Frankfort DeMontmorency. In researching the Viscount's wife Lady Catherine, I assembled the following timeline. It appears to me that there was a relationship between MY Harvey Francis, and Lady Catherine.
Timeline
Fitzwilliam Square

1822-12 Nov 1851
Lady Catherine Frankfort, widow of Viscount Frankfort de Montmornecy (Lodge Evans) at
49 Fitzwilliam Sq from about the time of her husbands death, until her own death. (from Lives Less Ordinary)

1847
The Dublin almanac, and general register of Ireland, for 1847
Lady Frankfort 4 Fitzwilliam Square
(Charles Knox esq, 7 Grafton St)


1846
4 Fitzwilliam Square West
Lady Catherine Frankfort (Slater’s National Commercial Directory)

1850
4 Fitzwilliam Sq West Lady Frankfort (Henry Shaw’s 1850 Dublin Directory)

1850
Right Honorable Lady Frankfort 4 Fitzwilliam Sq West (Thoms Directory of Ireland)

5 May 1853
Maria Louisa resided at 4 Fitzwilliam Sq. at the time of her marriage to J.T. Knox

1862
Mrs. DeMontmorency 37 Fitzwilliam Sq. West (Dublin Street Directory 1862)
Capt. Henry 49 Fitzwilliam Sq West

15 Jul 1865
List of Electors Compiled by
DeMontmorency, Frederick, 40 Fitzwilliam Sq West,
DeMontmorency, Henry F. 4 Fitzwilliam Sq West

25 Dec 1874
Captain Harvey Francis “late of Fitzwilliam Sq.”
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