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DNA PROVEN for "Ancient & Aristrocratic St. John Family Line"

SweetPioneers  (View posts) Posted: 31 Dec 2005 7:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 19 Jan 2012 7:40AM GMT
Surnames: St. John
We need more male person's with the SURNAME: St. John to register and submit their DNA to:
http://www.dnafamilytree.com/

Looking for information on the line of Thomas St. John husband of Mary Hayworten (Howerton, relict of Thomas St. John) wife of John Billingsley.

Having sons William and Thomas II St. John; William being married twice, 1st wife unknown but had son William St. John Jr. and second wife was Elizabeth Billinsley (Relict of Tyler, as ell as William St. John) issuance of underage sons, Richard, Thomas, James, Isaac, Abraham and John

It is from this line, Thomas St. John, husband of Mary Hayworten (Howerton, relict of J. Day; relict of Thomas St. John) wife of John Billingsley, that recent http://www.dnafamilytree.com/ for the SURNAME OF St. John has revealed the following results:

1. The administrator of the St. John surname site paid for a man in England by the name of Anthony St. John to have his DNA tested, so that it might help the administrator who descends from the Mathias St. John and Mary Tinker; trying to find out and to indicate whether "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family" included the said Mathias St. John and Mary Tinker of England.

Conclusion: They were not a match in the 12/12 strand test, so Mathias St. John and Mary Tinker descendants are not part of "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family".

2. The administrator indicated that when I had my son's DNA tested that we were the first in the United States to test positive to our English Cousin, Anthony St. John of "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family", and the administrator stated so... Since then we now have 3 DNA, my son's included that meet the 12/12 exact match to "The Ancient and Aristocratic St. John Family".

This family is unique in that our St. Johns are really DePort's, and descend from Adam DePort, who had his sons names not to be DePort, but after his grandmother, who was the last of the line of the Original William St. John who came to England with William, the Conqueror. He attended the Army as Grand Master of the Artillery, and Supervisor of the Waggons and Carriages; for which Reason, the Horse Hames or Collar was born for his Cognizance. (Quote: Early History of the St. John Family, reprinted from an ancient book. published by London: The Mitre Press, Mitre Chambers, Mitre Street, E.C.3)

3. Our English cousins are helping with identification of OUR Thomas and Mary St. John and where our Thomas St. John fits into the line of Bledsoe, since that is the line that Anthony St. John descends and thus the 12/12 EXACT MATCH for three St. Johns are based on. You will either descend from a Bledsoe or a Lydiard Tregoze. But, not any of Mathias St. John and Mary Tinker.

In all of this, I hope that I have not said anything that would confuse or render a no hope of connection to any St. John.

My former husband's line begins with Thomas St. John I, William St. John Sr., His Majesty Surveyor & Auditor General James St. John I, Esq, James St. John, Esq Surveyor, James St. John, Esq (Minute Man), James C. St. John, Thomas B. St. John, William Edward St. John, Gilliam Bluford St. John, Samuel Bluford St. John, Sr., Samuel Bluford St. John, Jr., Adam Bluford St. John

We have our own private website:

http://www.stantonstjohn.net

GUEST Login: Justvisitingguest
Guest PW: stantonstjohn
(this account has limited access)

FYI: Our St. Johns held Title to the Village of Stanton as "The Baron of Stanton"; later the villiage name was changed to Stanton-St. John. It just soo happens that my maiden name is: Stanton

Kindly,

Carolann Stanton St. John-Shepard
sweetkinfolk@aol.com
6347 Ibis Ave
Ewa Beach, HI 96706

Re: DNA PROVEN for "Ancient & Aristrocratic St. John Family Line"

cdc97  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jan 2012 1:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Just found this old post. If you are still there, did your Thomas and Mary ever live in Arkansas? There were a Thomas and Mary St. John there in 1914 about whom I have information. Thanks.

Re: DNA PROVEN for "Ancient & Aristrocratic St. John Family Line"

SweetPioneers  (View posts) Posted: 19 Jan 2012 7:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
I do not know of a 1918 Thomas and Mary St. John I would need more information.

Thomas, William, John, James, Richard, George, Isaac and Abraham are name patterns used.

It was in the late 19th century and early 20th century that they changed and stated using more of a mix of St. John names with maternal names.

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