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John Og McDonald & 4 Sons to Nova Scotia in 1775

John Og McDonald & 4 Sons to Nova Scotia in 1775

Posted: 24 May 2002 12:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Sep 2002 12:24PM GMT
Surnames: MacDonald, McDonald, Grant, McIntosh
From variou sources:

Iain or John MacDonald (Iain MacEoghainn Oig (Ewen)) - born in Glen Urquhart, Inverness-shire, Scotland. Died at Bridgeville NS.

Account tells of a grandfather named Ewen escaping from the Massacre of Glencoe in 1692 carrying a young grandson in his arms. John Og MacDonald was said to be that grandson. Another account tells of John [Iain Mac Eoghainn Oig] serving under the banner of Bonnie Prince Charlie at the battle of Culloden in 1746.

A cairn is located on the roadside near Sunny Brae, Nova Scotia dedicated to Iain Mac Eoghainn Oig (John) and his 4 sons.

This MacDonald Family arrived in America in the fall of 1775 as paid passengers on board the emigrant ship Glasgow. on arrival in New York Harbour, the ship was intercepted by the Royal Navy as the American Reviolution had broken out.

Four of Iain [John] MacDonald son's, James, Duncan, Alexander and Ewen [and probably Iain, the father] enlisted in the 2 Batt., Royal Highland Emigrant Regiment in Nov 1775. After the war, the family settled on land grants on the East River of Pictou County, Nova Scotia in the area known as A' Gleann Boidheach [Beautiful Valley]

In 1784, a settlement of disbanded soldiers was made at Pictou Nova Scotia on the East River at the close of the American War. They were, originally, from the Highlands of Scotland.

The names of these first settlers at East River were: Donald Cameron, his brothers Samuel and Finlay, Alexander Cameron, Robert Clark, Peter Grant, first elder in the settlement, James McDonald, Hugh McDonald on the east side of the river. James Fraser, Duncan McDonald, John McDonald, brother of James, John Chisholm, drowned at the Narrows with Finlay Cameron, John McDonald, 2d, John Chisholm, Jr.

John Og McDonald was born at Glen Urquhart and belonged to the Glencoe McDonalds. John Og McDonald was a grandson or great grandson of that man.

He was about eight years in the Royal Highland Emigrant Regiment, and three of his sons fought with him in the Revolutionary War on the Loyalists' side.

He was married twice. By his first wife he had Duncan, Alexander, Mary and Christy. By his second wife, Margaret Grant, he had James, Ewen, Ann and Ellen.

I am descended from John Og through son Ewen, through Ewens son John, through Johns son, Alexander, etc.

Any further information on this branch would be appreciated, especially the years prior to emigration [1775] from Glen Urquhart

Re: Iain MacEoghainn Oig & 4 Sons to Nova Scotia in 1775

Posted: 6 May 2003 2:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McDonald, Macdonald, Grant
This is a small correction to the heading -

This was not John 'Og' McDonald - but John McDonald ( Iain MacEoghainn Oig)

It is thought that the family either originated in Glencoe, or was closely aligned with Glencoe and visiting the encampment on the night of the Massacre, escaping and resettling in Glenurquhart. The Clandonald Society on Skye believes the family may have originated in Glenmoriston and that is where the Glencoe ties were strongest

There is a birth record for twin daughters Ann and Helen (Ellen) born to John McDonald and his 2nd wife Margaret Grant at Drumnadrochit on 1 Jul 1772.
It is thought James was born in 1754 in Bunloit and Hugh (also known as Ewen, Evan, or Eoghann Mor) may have been born in 1764. Both James and Hugh were sons of john and Margaret.

A record exists for the birth of the eldest 2 sons of John Mcdonald and his 1st wife Janet or Jannet (surname unk). Duncan in 1740 at Loget and Alexander in 1742 at Loget, no record is known to exist for elder daughters Mary and Christy

From - Dr. William Mackay's Urquhart and Glenmoriston (1893) a short account is given of the Settlement in Nova Scotia. Dr. Mackay had written to Rev. D.B. Blair and Rev. A. Maclean Sinclair and from the information supplied by them this account was compiled. The manuscripts had been in the possession of Dr. Mackay's grandson, the late Mr. I.R. Mackay. Photocopies of which have been given to the Angus L. MacDonald Library, St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish. Here is a list of natives of Urquhart and Glenmoriston who crossed the Atlantic to Nova Scotia, namely Pictou, East River (An Abhainn Mhor), Blue Mountain (A' Bheinne Ghorm) and Springville (Bail' an Fhuarain). Pictou Settlement now contains about seventy flourishing families of Urquhart descent, who all still speak Gaelic, and worship in that language in the churches

http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/bryanfkeddy/novascotia.html

John MacDonald - to East River, Pictou, N.S. in 1784 (with sons Duncan, Hugh and James)
Hugh MacDonald - From Glen Urquhart to Pictou, N.S. in 1784 - He was a son of Iain Mac Eoghainn, Oig. He settled at Bridgeville and was in the army.
James MacDonald - From Glen Urquhart to Pictou, N.S. in 1784 - (brother to Hugh). He settled at Bridgeville.

and also from - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nspictou/elect_text/Pictonians_ch_1...

John McDonald was born at Glenurquhart and belonged to the Glencoe McDonalds. (* The History of Bridgeville, Pictou County, NS says that 'Old John McDonald of the 84th' was over 60 when he finally settled at Bridgeville, Pictou in 1784 - that would place his date of birth about 1720. * It also says that he was a veteran of Culloden)

At the time of the Glencoe Massacre, 1692, one of the McDonalds fled to Glenurquhart and settled there.
John McDonald was a grandson or great grandson of that man.
He was about eight years in the 84th Royal Highland Emigrant Regiment, and three of his sons fought with him in the American Revolutionary War on the Loyalists' side.
He was married twice. By his first wife he had Duncan, Alexander, Mary and Christy.
By his second wife, Margaret Grant, he had James, Ewen, Ann and Ellen.
Ann was married in Pictou to Thomas Fraser, Basin.
Ellen was married in Pictou to James Robertson.
Duncan, eldest son of John McDonald, was married in Halifax or Pictou to Catherine Fraser.
James, their third son, was born about 1759. He was a Corporal in the 84th regiment. He married in Halifax NS about 1782, Mary Forbes.
Youngest son, Hugh, is thought to have married Jane Grant in 1794. The marriage bond was posted in Halifax though Hugh lived in Pictou Couny (East Branch-East River, Upper Settlement) at that time
Christy married Duncan 'Speich' (Speech or possibly Speid) McDoanld, a son of John 'Og' McDonald. also of Glenurquhart (left the Glen in 1801).
Eldest daughter Mary is said to have married a McDonald and remained in Windsor NS in 1784. Another record says the 2nd son Alexander also remained in Windsor.

Re: Iain MacEoghainn Oig & 4 Sons to Nova Scotia in 1775

Posted: 6 May 2003 3:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ben MacDonald - you didn't need to worry. Your message in no way required correction like that. "Og" simply means "young", and was usually used to signify one Iain MacDonald was the son of another Iain MacDonald. It was also used to identify young men, aged between 15 and 25. It is not an actual name like Neil or Angus, merely a descriptive term - but could form part of a nickname, like "Neil Og", if there were many Neil MacLeods and one needed a way to distinguish them.

Clann Dhòmhnuill
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Re: Iain MacEoghainn Oig & 4 Sons to Nova Scotia in 1775

Posted: 6 May 2003 5:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jan 2004 1:13AM GMT
In this particular case -

these are 2 different John McDonald's who both left the Glenurquhart area and both settled in Pictou County NS.

The John (Iain MacEoghainn Oig) I am descended from left 1st (in 1775) and the other John left in 1801 (according to the Bryan Keddy Glens website).

However, I believe both families are now connected through the marriage of Iain MacEoghainn Oig's daughter Christy, who married the son (or brother) of John 'Og' McDonald, Duncan 'Speich' (Speech or Speid?) MaDonald
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