Paula Johnson-Marsolek is willing to volunteer for look ups on the census records and local history book.

She was trying to contact Jeff who is the cc for the WashingtonCoWI USGenWeb WIGenWeb site at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwashin/

This is the second attempt at contact.

Dear Paula, thank you for your kind offer. Obtaining info for washington county, has been extremely difficult. If you wouldn't mind, I would be grateful for whatever info you can find on James and Hannah Helmer. They lived in hartford, between 1848 and 1882 . Hannah may have been there longer, but I know that James died there in that year. He and Hannah were both born in New york. I have the info from the 1880 census, which lists them and their four youngest children who were still at home. Likewise if yu have any info on Alva and Lucy Helmer, Willliam Helmer, Barney O helmer, catherine helmer. these are the four youngest children. Also, if you can locate the family of Thomas Ewer, who lived in that area at the same time.Lucy Ewer, married Alva F Helmer. (they are my gg grandparents) I know that this is a lot of info to ask for,I would be grateful for whatever you can find or are willing to do. Thank you, Debbie Helmer

Hi Debbie,

I only have the 1870 and 1880 Federal Census for Washington County. It looks like you've already checked the one for 1880 so I just checked the 1870 census in Hartford for your Helmers and Ewers. I didn't find anything for Ewer but here is what I found for Helmer.

On page 50, I found
Helmer, S. H. He was a 41 year old white male. He was a farmer and he estimated that the value of his real estate was $4500.00 and his personal wealth was $1820.00. He was born in New York. Also living with his was

Helmer, Miranda. She was a 27 year old white female. Her job is listed as keeping house. She is listed as being born in Ohio. Also living with them was

Helmer, Luett M. She is a 3 year old white female who was born in Wisconsin.

On page 60 I found,

Helmer, James. He was a 67 year old white male. He is listed as being a farmer and he estimates that his real estate if valued at $2500.00 and his personal wealth at $525.00. He was born in New York. Also living in his house was

Helmer, Loren. He was a 84 year old white male. His job is listed as working on the farm. He was born in New York. He is also listed as being deaf and dumb. Also living with them is

Dewey, Dorothy. She was a 45 year old white female. Her job was keeping house. She estimates her real estate value as $1000.00 and her personal wealth as $100.00 (maybe she owned part of the farm?). She was born in New York.

Also on page 60 I found,

Helmer, Jas. H. He was a 36 year old white male. He was a farmer and he estimates his real estate to be worth $2300.00 and his personal wealth at $400.00. He was born in New York. Also living with him was

Helmer, Charlotte. She was a 33 year old white female. Her job is listed as keeping house and she was born in Canada. Their children (they are listed on page 61) were all born in Wisconsin and they are,

Helmer, Ella L. - 12 years old,
Helmer, Byron W. - 5 years old, and
Helmer, Horace E. - 11 months old.

These aren't exact matches with what you requested but these are the only ones I could find in Hartford. If you think they might be in a different city, let me know and I'll check there. I hope one of these Helmers is yours! :) Paula

Dear Paula, thanks for the info! My James is the one listed in this census. I suspect that James H. and S Helmer may be older sons that I was unaware of. I was mistaken about having info from the 1880 census. I have info from the 1860 census. If it wouldn' be too much trouble, could you check the 1880 census for any Helmers .Thanks again for the help. you've provided valuable new clues. Debbie Helmer

Hi again Debbie,

I checked the 1880 Washington County Federal Census and here is what I found. The information for James Helmer might seem a little confusing at first but read through the whole thing.

Page 23 Supervisors Dist. 1, Enumeration Dist. No. 245 for Hartford, Wisconsin.

Lines 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 are all in the same house.

Line 8- Wiley, John. He was a white male that is 53 years old. His occupation is listed as a lumberman. He and both of his parents were born in Ohio.
Line 9- Wiley, Mary (either J or I). She was a white female that was 53 years old. She was John Wiley's wife. Her occupation is keeping house and she and her parents were born in New York.
Line 10- Roberts, John. He was a white male that was 9 years old. He is listed at being the grandson and is going to school. He was born in Wisconsin, his father was born in Canada and his mother was born in Wisconsin.
Line 11- Helmer, James. He is a white male that is 77 years old. He is listed as being the father-in-law and is a widower. He has no occupation and under health, it's listed that he has Aropay (not sure of this spelling nor what it is) of the chest. He was born in New York State as were his parents.
Line 12- Helmer, Loren. He was a white male that is 44 years old. He is listed as being the brother-in-law and is single. His occupation is a farmer. He was born in New York State as were his parents.

At the next house, I found
Line 13- Helmer, Horace. He was a white male that is 49 years old. He is married and his occupation is listed as being a farmer. He was born in New York State as were his parents.
Line 14- Helmer, Charlotte. She was a white female that is 43 years old. She is Horace's wife. Her occupation is keeping house and she and her parents were born in Canada.
Line 15- Helmer, Ellen. She was a white female that is 22 years old and she is the daughter. Her occupation is listed as school teacher. She was born in Wisconsin, her father was born in New York and her mother in Canada.
Line 16- Helmer, Byron. He was a white male that is 15 years old. He is the son and he works on the farm. He was born in Wisconsin, his father in New York and his mother in Canada.
Line 17- Helmer, Everine (not sure of the spelling). He was a white male that is 11 years old. He is the son and he goes to school. He was born in Wisconsin, his father in New York and his mother in Canada.
Line 18- Helmer, Spencer. He was a white male and was 8 years old. He was the son and goes to school. He was born in Wisconsin, his father in New York and his mother in Canada.

On page 48, Supervisor district 1, Enumeration District 245 for the Village of Hartford, I found

Line 23- Helmer, Silas. He was a white male that was 51 years old. He was married and a farmer. He was born in New York State as were his parents.
Line 24- Helmer, Miranda. She was a white female that was 38 years old. She is married and her occupation is keeping house. She was born in Ohio as were her parents.
Line 25- Helmer, Luette. She was a white female that was 14 years old. She was the daughter and she was going to school. She was born in Wisconsin, her father in New York and her mother in Ohio.
Line 26- Helmer, Earle. He was a white male that was 10 years old. He was the son and was going to school. He was born in Wisconsin, his father in New York and his mother in Ohio.
Line 27- Helmer, Ina or Ona M. She was a white female and was 3 years old. She was also the daughter. She was born in Wisconsin, her father in New York and her mother in Ohio.
Line 28- Dewey, Dorothy. She was a white female that was 55 years old. She is listed as being the sister. Under occupation (where they also list keeping house and at school), it says "in assylum". She was born in New York State as were her parents.

I didn't find anything on the Ewer name at all. If you find they were in a different city or town in Washington County, let me know and I'll check for them too.

I hope this helps. Looks like an interesting tree! :)
Paula.

Dear Paula, thanks so much for your help! I believe I can identify at least five more children of my ancestor James helmer. I am a bit confused about Loren Helmer, however. In the 1870 census, it lists a Loren Helmer in his 80's. In the 1880 census, it lists Loren as James's son, and that he was in his forties. would you say that these are different men, based on the info, or the same person , whose age was in correctly registered on the first census?

Hello,
I read your posting and am hoping you may be willing to help me also I have been stuck at this point for a while now. I am trying to trace the family of Thomas Fagan and Mary Dunn who lived in Cedarburg.They had at least one child while living there, Thomas J Fagan was born sept 3 1855. Thomas J moved west to Nobles Co MN in the company of his cousin Garrett Fagan, this is all the info I have on this family, other than they were Irish. Can you please help me? Thank you for your time.
Sandy fagan Drees

Hi Sandy,

I hate to say it but Cedarburg is in Ozaukee County and I don't have any census records for Ozaukee County (although I wish I had). If you think there's a chance that they moved to Washington County before heading to MN, please let me know where you think they might have moved to. I'll be able to check if you can zero in on a township, etc.

Sorry I couldn't have been of more help.
Paula

This is a very generous offer. I am looking for a Carl Faber or Faeber who married an Katharine Mueller or Miller in approximately 1860 in I think Wayne Township, Washington County. I am not 100% sure of the Township. I do not have ancestory on the Faeber's but I do know that Katharine's father was Adam Mueller and her mother was Katharine Koehler. Katharine had one sister Margaret (married to Peter Heller) and one brother Phillip (married to Christina Kibbel) living in the same area.

I hope this isn't too much information

Hi,

This wasn't too much information at all. In fact, you might want to supply me with some more! :)

This is what I found. In the 1870 Census for Washington County, in the township of Wayne, I found Phillip and Sophia Faber and Phillip and Catherine Faber. I'm not sure if either of these would be yours but if you think they are, let me know and I'll give you more information on them.

I DID find Peter and Margaretha Heller and they had Catherina Miller living with them. This is how they are listed on page 26 of the census.

Heller, Peter- he was a 34 year old white male. He was a farmer and he said that value of his real estate was $2000.00 and his personal estate was $500.00. He was born in ? Baden (I can't read the first part of the name but I'm sure it's in Germany) and his mother and father were of foreign birth. He was also a citizen of the U.S.

Heller, Margaretha- she was a 27 year old white female. Her occupation is listed as keeping house. She was born in New York and her parents were of foreign birth. She isn't a citizen of the U.S. but women weren't allowed to be then.

Heller, Sarah- she was a 7 year old white female. She was born in Wisconsin and her father was of foreign birth.

Heller, Catherina- she was a 4 year old white female. She was born in Wisconsin and her father was of foreign birth.

Heller, Peter- he was a 2 year old white male. He was born in Wisconsin and his father was of foreign birth.

Lina (I may have this spelling wrong)- was a 1 month old (born in April) white female. She was born in Wisconsin and her father was of foreign birth.

Also living with them,
Miller, Catherina- she was a 59 year old white female. She was born in Bavaria and her parents were of foreign birth.

In the 1880 census, I found a Henry and Katherine Faber and Carl and Catherine Faber. Again, let me know if you want any information on them. I also found the following on page 14.

Hiller, Peter- he was a white male that was 45 years old. He is married and his occupation is listed as a farmer. He was born in Baden along with his parents.

Hiller, Margaretha- she was a white female and is 36 years old. She is the wife, married, and for her occupation it's listed as keeping house. She cannot read and cannot write. She was born in Wisconsin and her parents were born in Bavaria.

Hiller, Katherine- she was a white female that was 13 years old (the age is a little hard to read but it looks like 13). She is the daughter, single, and her occupationn is listed as being at home. There is a check mark in the column that asks, "Is the person (on the day of the numerators visit) sick or temporarily disabled, so as to be unable to attend to ordinary business or duties? If so, what is the sickness or disability?" Nothing is listed for the reason. She was born in Wisconsin, her father was born in Baden and her mother in Wisconsin.

Hiller, Mar (?- the rest of this is blurred)- she is a white female, 10 years old, single, and her occupation is listed as attending school. She also has a check mark in the column about illness or disablility but there isn't anything else written there. She was born in Wisconsin, her father in Bavaria and her mother in Wisconsin.

Hiller, Peter- he is a single white male that is 12 years old. He is listed as being the son and his occupation is attending school. He was born in Wisconsin, his father in Bavaria and his mother in Wisconsin.

Hiller, Emily- she is a single white female that is 4 years old. She is the daughter and she was born in Wisconsin. Her father was born in Bavaria and her mother in Wisconsin.

Hiller, Johannes- he is a single white male that is 1 year old. He was born in Wisconsin, his father in Bavaria and his mother in Wisconsin.

Also living with them was Miller, Katherine- she is a white female who was 66 years old. She is listed as being the mother-in-law and is a widow. She cannot write. It says she was born in Wisconsin, her father in Bavaria and her mother in Wisconsin.

I also found another Kibbel family. They are Ernest and Mary Kibbel, their children, John, Sophia, and Carl, and the grandmother, Sophia Kibbel. They live very close to Peter and Margaretha so they might be related. If you want more information on this family, let me know. And later in the census, I found another Kibbel family. They are John and Louisa. Their children are George, William, Henry, Carl, Elizabeth and Phillip. I can give you more information on them if you want.

I'm sorry I couldn't find the Faber family you were looking for. I found all of the above in the 1870 and 1880 Federal census and all in the town of Wayne. Do you have any other places where the Faber family could be? Let me know. I don't have an index for individuals otherwise I would have been able to give you more information. I hope this helps though. Paula