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Norway - USA: Allette (Alletta) Langen born Kåfjord - Alta (Altens Prestgjæld) Norway 1852

Norway - USA: Allette (Alletta) Langen born Kåfjord - Alta (Altens Prestgjæld) Norway 1852

Posted: 25 Jan 2014 1:13PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Langen
In English and Swedish.

ENGLISH
Alletta Langen is my father's ( Swedish citizen) grandmother. Henrik Waldemar Langen is my grandfather by his first marriage with Elin Karolina Ljungholm born in Gellivare - Sweden . Waldemar and Elin and my father Gösta Daniel Langen immigrated in 1918 to Boston - United States, where Elin gave birth to another son of Waldemar 1919, the same year that Elin died. Waldemar Langen traveled back to 1920 Nederluleå - Sweden, my father Gösta Daniels birthplace, leaving Gösta Daniel to his late wife Elin's family Ljungholm. Waldemar went to Norway with the infant.

Waldemar met his new wife Esther, they had a child in 1922, the same year as Waldemar Langen than once with his family emigrated to the United States, Philadelphia, this time also with his mother Alletta Langen. In the U.S. Census of 1930 I found the whole family in Philadelphia, and it states Alletta was 82 years, which is questionable because there are other documents that would show that she was born in 1852. See attachments FederalCensus 1 and 2.

Alletta Langen is the person I want to know more about. In a passenger list from 1812 I found her with her son Waldemar upon arrival to Canada, where she sets out to be "W", a widow, 60 years old, thus born in 1852. See Appendix passenger list.
Alletta also exist - 14 years old as stepdaughter, along with his brother Christian Langen, in the Norwegian census 1865 at the family HC Klerk in Sydvaranger. HC Klerk was born in Altens Prestgjæld, which also Alletta and Christian Langen was .

I am looking for the following information about Alletta Langen :
1. Who was Allettas parents and what caused Alletta to be placed with fam Klerk .
2. Allettas marriage with Waldemar Langen's father, Eilert Andreas Norman Hansen. Alletta gave birth to four children, of whom the youngest was Waldemar Langen, born 1892. The family lived on Dyrøy, and later in Narvik. What happened to the other 3 kids and Eilert Andreas?
3. Is there any living relatives in Norway, related to Alletta Langen?
Regards from Ralph Birgerson-Langen
Helsingborg, Sverige

SWEDISH/SVENSKA
Alletta Langen är min fars (svensk medborgare) farmor. Henrik Waldemar Langen är min farfar genom sitt första äktenskap med en Elin Karolina Ljungholm, född i Gellivare - Sverige. Waldemar och Elin samt min far Gösta Daniel Langen emigrerade 1918 till Boston - USA, där Elin födde ytterligare en son med Waldemar 1919, samma år som Elin dog. Waldemar Langen reste 1920 tillbaka till Nederluleå - Sverige, min far Gösta Daniels födelseplats och lämnade Daniel till sin bortgångne fru Elin's familj Ljungholm. Waldemar fortsatte till Norge med spädbarnet.

Där träffade Waldemar sin nya fru Esther, de fick ett barn 1922, samma år som Waldemar Langen än en gång tillsammans med sin familj emigrerade till USA, Philadelphia, denna gång också tillsammans med sin mor Alletta Langen. I US Census av 1930 återfinns hela familjen i Philadelphia, och där anges Alletta var 82 år, vilket kan ifrågasättas eftersom det finns andra dokument som skulle visa att hon var född 1852. Se bilagor FederalCensus 1 och 2.

Alletta Langen är den person jag vill veta mer om. I en passagerarlista från 1812 återfinns hon tillsammans med sin son Waldemar vid ankomst till Canada och där anger hon sig vara "W", alltså änka och 60 år gammal, alltså född 1852. Se bilaga passagerarlista.
Alletta återfinns också - 14 år gammal som pleiedatter, tillsammans med sin bror Christian Langen, i Folketelling 1865 hos familjen HC Klerk i Sydvaranger. HC Klerk var född i Altens Prestgjæld, vilket också Alletta och Christian Langen var.

Jag söker följande information om Alleta Langen:
1. Vilka var Allettas föräldrar och vad orsakade att Alletta placerades hos fam Klerk.
2. Allettas äktenskap med Waldemar Langens far, Eilert Andreas Norman Hansen. Alletta födde 4 barn, varav det yngsta var Waldemar Langen, född 1892. Familjen bodde på Dyröy, och senare i Narvik. Vad hände med de övriga 3 barnen och med Eilert Andreas?
3. Finns någon nu levande nära släkt till Alletta Langen i Norge?

Hälsar Ralph Birgerson-Langen
Helsingborg, Sverige
Attachments:

Re: Norway - USA: Allette (Alletta) Langen born Kåfjord - Alta (Altens Prestgjæld) Norway 1852

Posted: 25 Jan 2014 9:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

Here is the birth of Henrik Valdemar in Dyrøy:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=218&id...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050302010087....

His mother is Ingeborg Alette Lange b 1852

Must be him and his mother in the 1910 census in Narvik (birthdates are often wrong in this census):
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036896004...

His father in 1910?:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036896005...

Vivi

Re: Norway - USA: Allette (Alletta) Langen born Kåfjord - Alta (Altens Prestgjæld) Norway 1852

Posted: 25 Jan 2014 10:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

Ingeborg Alette and Eilert was married 1870 in Dyrøy:
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9680&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070605640297....

Ingeborg Alette was born May 12, 1852 in Kåfjord in Talvik (Altens prestegjeld):
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9988&i...
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070228620321....

Parents: Kristoffer Estensen and Berith Margrethe Hansdatter.
When Ingeborg Alette is married her father is called Kristoffer Lange.

Here you have Ingeborg Alette in the 1900 census with husband and children:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037534004...

Vivi

Re: Norway - USA: Allette (Alletta) Langen born Kåfjord - Alta (Altens Prestgjæld) Norway 1852

Posted: 26 Jan 2014 7:44AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Langen Lange
Hi Vivi, thank you for your very useful informations. About spelling Lange - Langen, as you can se here http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038415000... regarding Folketelling 1865 for 2030P Sør-Varanger prestegjeld, Allette and her brother Christian spelled Langen, during that time and even later on. Perhaps Lange is a wrong hearing from the beginning?

Allette was 14 years old and her status was "Pleiedatter". What is that status realy mean? In Sweden we have a word "fosterdotter" (eng Foster Daughter), which means that the kid was placed in a family via comunitiy action. Is that the same as "Pleiedatter"?

Ralph B

Re: Norway - USA: Allette (Alletta) Langen born Kåfjord - Alta (Altens Prestgjæld) Norway 1852

Posted: 26 Jan 2014 12:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm

Spellings often changed through the years. Spelling was in inexact science and there was no 'right' spelling.

Re: Norway - USA: Allette (Alletta) Langen born Kåfjord - Alta (Altens Prestgjæld) Norway 1852

Posted: 28 Jan 2014 10:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

The swedish "Fosterdotter" most likely is the same as "Pleiedatter". We also use the word "Fosterdatter".

Vivi
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