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I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 26 Jan 2014 6:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Lenseth/Lonseth - Storeide - Hansen - Elton
I will be visiting Oslo and Alesund in early March and looking for relatives.
My Great Aunt Trina Storeide Murray - use to visit family in Oslo and Alesund back in the 1960's, but I don't know who she visited.
I am looking for Lenseth/Lonseth or Storeide family in Oslo and/or Alesund where my Grandfather emmigrated from in 1890.
Also in Oslo, my two Grandmother's were born - Mathilda Hansen and Erika Elton; Mathilda died in Brooklyn in 1915 and my Grandfather got remarried to Erika Elton. Mathilda left Norway in 1895 and Erika in 1905.
Would appreicate any ideas or suggestions

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 28 Jan 2014 4:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
In order to start search in the Norwegian archives the following information:
Your grandfathers name and date of birth, if you have found his wedding records, then you would most likely have his fathers name.
Your Great aunt Trina Storeide Murray - I guess her maiden name is Storeide, do you have date of birth and her fathers name - she might not have used Storeide when emigrating, do you know when she emigrated. Is she your grandfathers sister?
Lenseth/Lonseth - who used this last name.
Your grandmother Mathilda Hansen, do you have her date of birth and her fathers name.
Your grandmother Erika Elton, do you have her date of birth and her fathers name.
Death certificates will often reveal the name the father/parents of the deceased.
If you have names of sibling of your grandparents or other facts that would be helpful in order to identify the correct families.

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 29 Jan 2014 9:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Jan 2014 9:40PM GMT
Thank for your reply - Here are some of the answers to your guestions:
1 - My grandfather was born - Paulus Ludwig Lonseth with a slash throught the O in Alesund Norway - 14 Dec 1871 and I have copies of his baptism and conformation records as well as his parents info from Alesund. What I don't know is if there are any relatives still there after he left in 1890.

2- My Great Aunt Trina (Patrine) was a half sister to my grandfather (same mother - Gjertine Magdalene EIDSVIG) I also have here records, she arrived in NYC in Aug of 1900. and did travel as Patrine Storeide, from Southhamton, England.

3- My Grandfather oldest son was born a Lonseth here in the the US in 1897 but after that all the other family members birth records use Lenseth.

4- I do know the parents of both Grandmother and there date of births in Oslo.

5- I do have sibling names for Tina.

6- When my Great Aunt Trina and her husband traved and met me in Olso in 1965 they would have traveled as Dennis and Patrine Murray.

Thanks again for your reply any suggestions would be appreciated.

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 10:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,

I have added a request on the Norwegian forum, http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=613887#61...

Paulus Ludvig, baptism record, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000000...
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Ministerialbok nr. 529A03 (1872-1877), Fødte og døpte 1872, side 6.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5718&i...

Paulus Ludvig in 1875 in forstercare (grandparents?), http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052324000...

Paulus with mother and stephfather in 1885, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053297005...

Paulus Ludvig, confirmation, 1887, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/kf/person/pk00000000...

Marriage record 9th of July 1879, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/vi/person/pv00000000...

Children of Peter Olai Olsen Storeide and Jertine Magdalene Larsdatter Eidsvig:

Marie, born 13th of March 1880
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Ministerialbok nr. 529A04 (1878-1885), Fødte og døpte 1880, side 40.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5719&i...

Peder, born 17th of October 1882
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Ministerialbok nr. 529A04 (1878-1885), Fødte og døpte 1883, side 93.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5719&i...

Peder Olsen Storeide, died 26th of February 1923
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Klokkerbok nr. 529C11 (1918-1938), Døde og begravede 1923, side 76.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2685&i...

Grave stone, doubble click, http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=3113243
ID 3113246
Peder Storeide, born 1885, died 1923 buried at square E; row e; grave no 61, Nedre Gravlund, Ålesund
ID3113243
Petra born 1891, died 3rd of April 1974, buried at square E; row e; grave no 61, Nedre Gravlund, Ålesund
ID3113245 Alfred Storeide born 12th of November 1913, died 17th of October 1998, buried at square E; row e; grave no 61, Nedre Gravlund, Ålesund


Petrine Ingeborg, born 15th of July 1885, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000005...

Lauritz Andreas, born 7th of January 1890, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000005...

Grave stone doubble click, http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=3118124
ID 3118124
Lauritz A. Storeide, born 7th of January 1890, died 1st of June 1961, square Z; row b; grave no 37, Nedre Gravlund, Ålesund
ID 3118125
Petra Storeide ne Krigen, born 29th of October 1899, died 19th of January 1989, square Z; row b; grave no 38, Nedre Gravlund, Ålesund


Ole Julius, born 3rd of March 1893, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000005...

Jertine – uses firstname Tine in 1900, widow and her sons Peder and Lauritz are living with her, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037370003...

Jertine – uses firstname Tena in 1910 living with her son Peder and his wife and son, Lauriz is also living with them, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037370003...

Peder Olai Olsen Storeide died 30th of July 1894, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/gr/person/pg00000000...

Marriage record 13th of December 1896, Marie Olufine Storeide and Peder Albert Pettersen, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/vi/person/pv00000000...

Children of Peder Albert and Marie Olufine:
Gjertine Olufine, born 18th of October 1898,
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000000...

Paulus Johannes, born 7th of August 1900, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000000...

Peder Albert born 13th fo March 1902, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000000...
Parents: Peder Albert Pettersen and Marie Olufine
Grave stone, http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=3113119
ID3113119
Peder Albert Pettersen born 13th of March 1902, died 19th of July 1948, buried at square E; row d; grave no 66, Nedre Gravlund Ålesund
ID 3113120
Anna Pettersen Ellefsen, born 23rd of June 1906, died 20th of April 1988, , buried at square E; row d; grave no 66, Nedre Gravlund Ålesund

Palma Mandaline, born 29th of January 1906,
Parents: widow Marie Pettersen ne Storeide, and unmarried bricklayer Karl Larsen, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/dp/person/pd00000000...
Emigrated 1925,
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000902...

Hjørdis Marie, born 1st of January 1910,
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Ministerialbok nr. 529A10 (1906-1917), Fødte og døpte 1910, side 113.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=39476&...
Parents: Johan Alfred Løken and Marie Olufine ne Storeide
ID 1852600
Hjørdis Marie Strand ne Løken, born 1st of January 1910, died 7th of April 1991, buries at square F; row 00; grave no 141, Undersbo, Larvik (Vestfold)

Marie Olufine with husband and children 1900, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037370009...

Marie Olufine Løken, widow with children, 1910, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036746014...


Marie Olufine and Johan Alfred did not show up for the wedding, December 1909
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Ministerialbok nr. 529A09 (1904-1917), Ekteviede 1910, side 215.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=39475&...

They got married 16th of September 1910,
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Klokkerbok nr. 529C07 (1907-1917), Ekteviede 1910, side 197.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6494&i...

Johan Alfred Løken died 7th of November 1910,
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Klokkerbok nr. 529C07 (1907-1917), Døde og begravede 1910, side 290.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6494&i...

Children of: Peder Olai Storeide (born 1882) and Petra Kornelia Kv…?
Peter Olaus, born 23rd of January 1910,
Møre og Romsdal fylke, Ålesund, Ministerialbok nr. 529A10 (1906-1917), Fødte og døpte 1910, side 94.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=39476&...
ID 2791550
Petter Storeide born 23rd of January 1910 died 8th of June 1984,buried at: square V; row a; grave no 8, Øvre Gravlund, Ålesund
Picture of grave stone, doubble click, http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=2791550
In the same grave:
ID 2791551
Johanne B. Storeide, born 3rd of September 1914, died 12th of October 2000, buried at: square V; row a; grave no 8, Øvre Gravlund, Ålesund
ID 2791549
Steinar Storeide, born 28th of May 1942, died 4th of April 1943, buried at: square V; row a; grave no 8, Øvre Gravlund, Ålesund
ID 2791561 Kirsti Storeide, born 8th of July 1949, died 22nd of January 1950, buried at: square V; row a, Øvre Gravlund, Ålesund

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 11:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
Regarding Mathilda Hansen and Erika Elton, I would need the information on their date/year of birth.

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 30 Jan 2014 11:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Wow!! I had some ot this but not all the detail. Thank you.

From the looks of what you shared there probably no living relatives still in Alesund, however I would still like to fly up there for a day just to see where my Grandfather and his adopted family came from. I can also see where Tanta Trina would have had sisters and brotheres to visit in 1965 after we meet in Oslo.

Thank for this information.

If I may I would like to know your name and if you were available to take when I am in Oslo. If you would rather email me that information I am at lensethb@optonline.net
Thanks again - Bob

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 1:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
1 - Mathilda Hansen was born 25 May 1878 in Christiania, Norway. Her parents were Erik Hansen ( no info on him) and Ida Nilson born abt 1856 and she was from Sweden. This information is from Mathilda and Paulus marriage records in NYC in 1897 and her NYC death Cert. in 1915
2 - Erika Elton was born 5 April 1882 in Oslo, Norway. Her parents were Erick Elton and Kathrine Nilsen both according to the US 1920 Census were born in Sweden. On her NYC death cert in 1955 her daughter lists the mothers name as Catherine Elton Olso. Erika wrote Kathrine Nisen on her marraige cert to Paulus in 1917.

I really apprciate your help - Thanks

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 1:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
I'm not been able to find any suitable candidate for Erika in Oslo, however I found:
Baptism Erikke Marie born 5th of April 1882, baptized 7th of September 1984
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1875-1886), Fødte og døpte 1884, side 202.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5973&i...
Parents: deceased stone worker, widower Erik Olsen, born 1855 and Kathrine Nilsen born 1842, address: Bjørneborgbakken
Her 3rd child born out of wedlock with the same man.
This Erikke Marie emigrates from Oslo 3rd of November 1904, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000001064...

Erikka Marie born 5 April 1882 in Kragerø. parents Erik Olsen and Katrine ne Nilsen
Erikka Marie, confirmation
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. I 12 (1880-1904), Konfirmerte 1896, side 176.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4805&i...

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 31 Jan 2014 3:45PM GMT
Classification: Query

WOW again - every thing lines up with Erikka Marie - according to my records she did not arrive in NY until 1905 and that she came in from England but that does not change what you found but adds to it. You mention a third child - any info on first with someone else and 3rd with Erik. The Olson name has been mentioned before so I don't have a problem there.

Thanks again for all your hard work.

Bob

Re: I will be traveling to Norway in early March 2014 and visiting Oslo and Alesund

Posted: 7 Feb 2014 12:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
Update:

Mathilde Hansen

Baptism record Mathilde, born 23rd and baptized 26th of May 1878
Parents: unmarried girl Ida Nilsdatter og Musketeer Hellik Hansen
Mathilde, no 79,
Oslo fylke, Rikshospitalet, Dåpsbok nr. K 0003.1 (1877-1884), Fødte og døpte 1878, side 28.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1871&i... =ny&idx_side=-28
Mathilde, no 39
Oslo fylke, Rikshospitalet, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1871-1885), Fødte og døpte 1878, side 133.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5824&i... =ny&idx_side=-136

99.999% positive that this is Mathilde's father:
Hellich's baprizm record, born 22nd of January and baptized 3rd of March 1856, entry no 15
parents: Hans Olsen and Gunhild Gullichsdatter, address: Ellingsbraaten
Buskerud county, Flesberg, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1834-1860), Birth and baptism records 1856, page 108.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5867&i...

Hellik Hansen b abt 1856 with his family at Ellingsbraaten, Flesberg in 1865,
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038...

Hellik Hansen, emigrating in 1878
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&am...

I had a volunteer look up information in the Flesberg-boka (bygdebok).
The family are mentioned under the Ellingsbraaten farm.
Hellik moved to Kristiania (Oslo) in 1876 and emigrated 2 years later.

Siblings of Hellik:
Maret, born 1846, died 1908, unmarried
Ole, born 1848, died 1935 unmarried
Gullek, born 1851, died 1895 unmarried
Hans born 1853 emigrated to the US in 1871
Herbrand, born 1858, died 1874
Jøran, born 1861, died 1907 emigrated to the US in 1883
Gunhild, born 1864, died 1867
Gulbrand, born 1866, died 1888, unmarried
Gunhild, born 1869, died 1941, emigrated to the US in 1889
Anne, born 1872, died 1918 got married to Kristoffer Kristensen M. Bakkan lived at nordre Kvear, later on moved to Kongsberg.


Update Erika Olsen Elton:

Erik born 3rd and baptized 18th of February 1855, entry no 23
Parents: Ole Julsen and Agnete Johannesdatter, ddress: Engaeie
Oppland county, Torpa, Nordsinni, Østsinni in Land, Parish register (official) nr. 10 (1847-1859), Birth and baptism records 1855, page 39.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8980&i...

Erik with parents and sibling at Simensveen in 1865, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038...

Erik, confirmation 3rd of October 1869, entry no 8, address: Engereie
Oppland fylke, Nordre Land, Ministerialbok nr. 1 (1860-1871), Konfirmerte 1869, side 129.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8981&i...

Eriks parents and siblings at Elton i FT1875,
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01052...

Found Erik in this family tree and it seems like he also got a child in 1872, might be the reason he went to Drangedal/Kragerø
http://gurihus.net/slekt/tng/getperson.php?personID=I13028&a...

Son of Erik Olsen Elton
Olaf born 31st of October baptized 1st of December 1872, entry no 144
parents: unmarried girl Agnete Halsrud Olsdatter and bachelor Erik Olsen Elton
Oppland county, Nordre Land, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1872-1881), Birth and baptism records 1872, page 12.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6127&i...

Erik Olsen and Aslaug Aslagsdatter, marriage record, 7th of April 1875, entry no 6
Telemark fylke, Drangedal i Drangedal, Klokkerbok nr. I 2 (1856-1887), Ekteviede 1875-1876, side 236.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7853&i...

Erik Olsen med hustru Aslaug Aslaksdatter, Kragerø FT1875, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052158003...

Child of Erik Olsen and Aslaug Aslaksdatter:
Agnethe,born 29th of November 1876,the child died, baptism not confirmed in church, entry no 1
Telemark fylke, Drangedal i Drangedal, Klokkerbok nr. I 2 (1856-1887), Fødte og døpte 1877, side 117.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7853&i...

Aslaug died 1st of Janauary 1877, Agnethe died 26th of December 1876, entry 1 and 2
Telemark fylke, Drangedal i Drangedal, Klokkerbok nr. I 2 (1856-1887), Døde og begravede 1876-1878, side 284.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7853&i...

Children of widower Erik Olsen (Elton) born abt 1855 og unmarried girl(sometimes refered to as wife) Kathrine Nilsen born abt 1842

Anne Elise born 5th of May 1877
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1875-1886), Fødte og døpte 1877, side 50.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5973&i... =ny&idx_side=-53

Anne Elise, confirmation 1891,
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. I 12 (1880-1904), Konfirmerte 1891, side 121.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4805&i... =ny&idx_side=-125

Elise in Kristiania (Oslo), 1910, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036392302...

Could she have emigrated in 1904 and returned before December 1910? http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036392302...

Olette Julie, born 6th of June 1879
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1875-1886), Fødte og døpte 1880, side 108.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5973&i... =ny&idx_side=-111

Olette Julie, confirmation 1893
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. I 12 (1880-1904), Konfirmerte 1893, side 147.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4805&i... =ny&idx_side=-152

I have not been able to find her in the censuses of 1900 and 1910

Erikke Marie born 5th of April1882,
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. 11 (1875-1886), Fødte og døpte 1884, side 202.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5973&i... =ny&idx_side=-211

Erikka Marie, confirmation 1896
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. I 12 (1880-1904), Konfirmerte 1896, side 176.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4805&i... =ny&idx_side=-181

Erikke Marie emigrated 3rd of November 1904, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000001064...

Erik Olsen Elton died 23rd of August 1884
Telemark fylke, Kragerø, Ministerialbok nr. 10 (1861-1885), Døde og begravede 1884, side 169.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5972&i... =ny&idx_side=-173

Kattrine Nilsen and the children in 1885, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01053...

NIELSEN, CATHARINE
1891Census, Kragerø, matr.nr.147, Hovedbyen, tellingskrets nr.14,husliste nr.4. (refer to the address she is living, Head of household,unmarried, born 1841, in Lønnskog,Vermland, day laborer. http://www.disnorge.no/arkiweb/filer_alle/kirkebok/sannkrag/...

Katrine Niels. born 1841, Värmland, Sweden, widow, in 1900,Kragerø, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037...


Update Eidsvig, Storeide, Lønseth:

Jertine Magdalene Larsdatter Eidsvig
Her parents are Lars Pedersen (Hole?) Eidsvik and Petrine Marie Svendsdatter Eidsvik.

Petrine Marie is from the farm Eidsvik in Vatne parish, now situated in Haram municipality.
According to the bygdebook of Vatne, volum 1, is Lars mentioned as Lars Pedersen Storstein in 1853. When he gets married in Skodje/Vatne 2nd of Nvember 1845 he uses the lastname of Hole. However, later on he uses the lastname of Eidsvik, he was from Synnylven.
Petrine Marie's ancestors are mentioned in the bydebook of Vatne, volum 1, page 214. Petrine Marie had many siblings and they have a lot of descendants.

A candidate for Erich Ericksen. There are a question mark regarding his age stated in Paulus Ludvigs baptism record. However, as one of my helper stated: How many apprentice tailors cold there be in Ålesund named Erick Ericksen....

Erich Ericksen, born 15th and baptized 29th of November 1840, entry no 64 (born out of wedlock)
Parents: Erich Olsen Kleve of Bolsøe and Ingrid Erichsdatter Skorgen.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16038&... id=ny&idx_side=-45

Erich Erichsen, confirmation, 12 of October konf.1856 Røe in Nesset, entry no 4
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6425&i... =ny&idx_side=-129

Erik Eriksen in 1865, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038...

Erik Eriksen, married in 1875, http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052326004...

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