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Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 6 Feb 2014 8:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Trying to get more information on her parents.....all I have are names.

For reference, Abelona Haagensdatter married Ole Christian Eriksen on 12 Oct 1862 (entry #24)for which the following marriage registry was utilized...

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:no-a1450-kb20050427031007.jpg

And, Ableona Haagensdatter birth registry from 1821 (top right of page) was the following

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050427031146....

I have her parents as Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Lardatter but have been unable to determine towns of birth or years of birth or death. I have also been unable to find them on census records.

Any help would be appreciated!!

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 6 Feb 2014 11:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
The first link you gave doesn't work at all and the second ONLY shows the image of the page from the parish records.
It does not tell us WHERE in Norway this was found. The location is probably vital to being able to try to help you.

When you've studied and used the instructions and been able to find a scanned page on the Digitalarkivet that you'd like to capture as a URL to share with someone else or save for your family history documentation - just copying the URL that your browser shows will NOT provide a working link for longer than about 1/2 an hour -- it only works very temporarily.

Working direct links to the scanned images on the Digitalarkivet can be copied and pasted from the desired page from a display option available. At the top of the scanned image page is an option labeled "Bildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Image Information"[English version] which is by default set to "Ingen" [Norwegian version]/"None" [English version]. Change that and magic is available. Of the three options I like "Øverst" [Norwegian version]/"On top" [English version] because it puts the additional information across the top of the page and is usually easier for me to see.

The first line "Kildeinformasjon:" [Norwegian version]/"Source information" [English version] is a really nice summary of the source of the information and is wonderful to have for making detailed source citations, footnotes, etc.

The second line "Permanent sidelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent pagelink" [English version] is the best line to capture if you want to save the exact URL location or share the actual scanned image and the source information. It allows the full capabilities for zooming in and out to best view the image and informs the recipient of the exact location, book and other details to be able to find WHERE you found the information.

The third line "Permanent bildelenke:" [Norwegian version]/"Permanent imagelink" [English version] is the best used to print a copy of the image or to save a copy of the image in a jpg format computer file. This line does NOT also capture the source information and therefore is NOT the best line to copy to share online when requesting help or assistance in deciphering the image found.

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 7 Feb 2014 8:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
abelone

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&...
1865

marriage #24
Source information: Nordland county, Mo (Nord-Rana), Parish register (official) nr. 827A04 (1853-1866), Marriage records 1862, page 177.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2572&i...

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 7 Feb 2014 8:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry about that. This is the link to Abelona birth registry

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2573&i...

Nordland county, Mo (Nord-Rana) in Hemnes.

Peder27 has also provided a link to to an 1865 census with her family and the marrige registry. Thank you Peder27.

This is the information and images that I have available. Any help trying to move forward would be appreciated.

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 7 Feb 2014 8:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for posting the images.

This is Abelona's birth registry link

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2573&i...

The two links you posted and the birth registry link I have just now added are the only information and images I have concerning her parents.

Any help trying to find out more information about her parents would be appreciated.

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 7 Feb 2014 10:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
The free databases of indexed records at FamilySearch.org indicates that a Haagen Haagensen married an Ingebjorg Larsdatter 1813 in Mo, Nordland, Norway.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N7TB-GJB

Right couple? Perhaps -- maybe even probable. You'll have to do more in-depth study of the parish records of the area to learn that.

The daughter born in 1821 was confirmed in 1838 and that record clarifies the name of the farm/residence where she was born -
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2570&i...

That location is included on the map and notice how close to the 'town'(?) of Mo -
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2570&i...

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 7 Feb 2014 10:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Feb 2014 10:54PM GMT
A bit of speculation --

The marriage record that was mentioned on FamilySearch.org --
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=17096&...
(right hand page) Notice the farm name given for the groom!

And if we look at that farm in the 1801 Norwegian census there are at least two interesting residents listed -
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbas...

Perhaps you should make efforts to consult “Rana Bygdebok”, 3 volumes by Axel Coldevin and Anders Frøholm. Information on the residents of that farm name might be quite useful to your research.

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 8 Feb 2014 12:05AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks. I was just perusing some things and wanted to get your take.

I read the farm name as Andsiskvand. Referencing the Rana Bygdebok, the closest farm name I could find was Vatna (Andfiskvatnet). On page 60, bottom left paragraph

http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/286c1cd2a98609208f98d063359d677f#7...

(hopefully the link works.....)

They list a Haka Haksa (variation of Haagen Haagensen??) from Holbekkmoen that married a Ingeborg Larsdatter from Vatna in 1813, with a daughter Abelun born 1821.

What do you think??

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 8 Feb 2014 12:28AM GMT
Classification: Query
Interesting......the last message that I sent was for farm user 8. Looking earlier at the farm user #6 (In Oppigarden, same page and paragraph in Rygdebok)......The farmer is Lars Arntsen married Berte (Beret) Maria Sakariasdatter had daughter Ingeborg 1779, Abelone 1781, Arnt 1791 with two other children that died before the 1801 folktelling (so all that actually matches with the census that you found). Then Sakariasdatter remarried Steen Hansen and had a few kids. So that may be them..........as long as Haka Haksen is Haagen Haagensen

Re: Parents of Abelona Haagensdatter help (Haagen Haagensen and Ingebor Larsdatter)

Posted: 8 Feb 2014 2:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
I agree with your reading. Those are all very likely to be the same persons that I was proposing as "possible" therefore I might be quite biased. Just because I've not seen Haka as a variation of Haagen before doesn't mean it surprises me much.
Remember the great Y2K software panic? That was actually the year I was really getting into my own family research and was struggling with what I considered the great G2K panic in Norwegian spelling. Sorry -- pointless personal story.

If it was my family I'd want to check the birth/baptisms and perhaps also the confirmation records for the other children listed in the book as born to Haagen and Ingebor. A study of spellings from those records and matches to the published book info would probably make the "preponderance of evidence".

Page 57 of the bygdebok seems to discuss the history of the farm's name(s).
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