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Erland Pedersen

Erland Pedersen

Posted: 12 Jul 2014 9:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pederson
Looking for the farm he was from. Maybe Tangen. Also his date of birth , death and marriage to Anne Pedersdotter. Or maybe Anne Jonsdotter? His birth was maybe around 1780?

Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 12 Jul 2014 10:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
You are starting a family search with a person born about 1780? Do you know he is related to you?

If you have information about his children or grandchildren that you KNOW for SURE are related to you and who lived in Norway then start with them instead.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wgnorway/good-queries.htm

There is more than one farm in Norway called Tangen.

Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 12 Jul 2014 11:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the reply. We have information on ancestors later, but were looking for more information on Erland Pedersen, from Lesja, Oppland Norway. Birth around 1782, but we aren't exactly sure.

Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 13 Jul 2014 11:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
But WE don't have any information about the later generations -- you haven't shared that - and mind reading is out of the question. The location you've just given is a MAJOR piece of information vital to any search.

The 1801 Norwegian census shows ONE Erland Pedersen, 19 years old, working as a servant on a farm in Lesja, Oppland.
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&a...

Parish church records for Lesja are available for your research for years as early as 1724 and there appears to exist a book series named “Bygdebok for Lesja”, 3 volumes by Arnfinn Kjelland. You could look for information about him there.

Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 13 Jul 2014 1:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Go to FamilySearch.org and search the Records tab for
Erland Pedersen
born Lesja, Oppland, Norway between 1780 and 1785

That will give you information to allow you a more detailed search for the primary sources through the actual original records as available scanned online at the Digitalarkivet website.

Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 13 Jul 2014 3:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for the information. Looks like that is him. We weren't sure about birth date, but having the census defiantly helps!

Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 13 Jul 2014 3:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 13 Jul 2014 5:38PM GMT
Update - More study of Lesja makes it clear that there was more than one Erland Pedersen and the limited information initially given may have caused the following assumptions taken for an Erland Pedersen born in 1783 might be completely in error. Only the initial poster can clarify.

???The information given at FamilySearch.org indicates that your Erland was born in 1783 (complete date for birth and christening given there). His parents had a son also named Erland in 1782 but he died as an infant (you can see that in the digitized original records for Lesja).??? The next son born was given the same name as the deceased - a custom frequently followed.

???The 1865 census for Lesja must be why there was a previous mention of a farm named Tangen that someone had seen.??? But that info alone was not helpful - there are farms named Tangen all over Norway.

There are a number of excellent materials available online for your study and the number of Norwegian resources available online for research increases almost daily. Study, practice, enjoy!

Ancestors From Norway articles (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html)
Portal to Norway research guidance of LDS Family History Library (https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Norway)
Tips on Using Digitalarkivet (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.htm...)
Norwegian census abbreviations (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/census_abbrev...)
Norwegian censuses on NHDC website, instructions included (http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)
FamilySearch has a large number of Norwegian births and marriages indexed (http://www.familysearch.org)

Help for translating many of your finds (http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm)
Making the Norwegian alphabet characters (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/Characters.html)

Online study material to learn about Norwegian naming practices and patterns.
(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/na12.html)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm)
(http://www.norwayheritage.com/norwegian-names.htm)
(http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/farms.htm)

Norwegian censuses of 1910, 1900,1875 (only partially online), 1865 and 1801 are online as searchable databases. Two websites with different search functions and strengths can be used.
(http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.htm...)
(http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html)

The detail available in the extensive parish church records is a marvelous gift from Norway. The Digitalarkivet web site has been adding scanned images of the original Norwegian parish church records for anyone with Internet access since November 2005. To be able to use the parish records you must first know WHERE in Norway you want to search for this documentation.

The Digitalarkivet web site - (http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&a...)
An English option is available by clicking on that word from either the left hand column or the blue link bar along the bottom of the homepage.
A newer homepage has been put up at (http://arkivverket.no/digitalarkivet) and the same resources are available there and an English option is clickable up near the upper right of that screen. The older entry point is still operational.
The scanned images are available from the homepage link "Skanna kyrkjebøker" [Norwegian version]/"Digitised parish records" [English version] which is listed along the left hand column and from the blue banner of links along the top section of the homepage.
When you click on that link another page will present a short list of choices - choose "Read the digitized parish registers"[English version]/"Lesa skanna kykrebøker" [Norwegian version].
After you've clicked on that link and a new main page has presented on the screen be sure and read the instructions that are available from the Digitalarkivet for navigating the scanned records. The instructions are available in Bokmål (official Norwegian), Nyorsk (Norwegian), Davvisámegiella (Saami), and English.
Recommended basic reading are the "Startsiden" [Norwegian version]/"Main page" [English version], "Brukerveiledning" [Norwegian version]/"User's guide" [English version] and "Om tjenesten" [Norwegian version]/"About this service" [English version].

Good information about translating the formats of Norwegian parish church records during various time periods, many of the basic terms used and understanding how to use the information should be studied at this web site -
(http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html)

For the protection of privacy, there are limits for how recent records can be:

- Birth and baptism records up to and including 1929
- Confirmation records up to and including 1934
- Marriage and banns records - no limits
- Civil marriage up to and including 1950
- Death, burial and stillbirth records up to and including 1930
- Migration records - no limits
- Joins and leavings of the State Church up to and including 1950
- Records about dissenters up to and including 1950

If you cross these limits while browsing a register or a list, you will not see the digitised image, but a message informing you that the image cannot be displayed.

Norway has a tradition of publishing history and genealogy books for many rural districts of the country called 'bygdebøker'. You might be lucky enough to have had ancestors from one of the areas which has one or more good 'bygdebøker' published about it.
Learn about 'bygdebøker' (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/bygdebok.html)
Bygdebøker and Ættarbøker can be helpful but are definitely secondary sources of information -- any research done in them should be verified in the primary sources such as the parish church records.


Links and more links about Norway and Norwegian genealogy (http://www.cyndislist.com/norway.htm)



Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 13 Jul 2014 5:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Do be very careful! There was more than one Erland Pedersen in Lesja, Oppland during that approximate time period. They had various wives - and at least one had an illegimate child about 1823.

You'll need to carefully research the child or children of Erland Pedersen that you are actually descended from to be SURE you are following the correct ancestral line. The bygdebok, church records and perhaps even probate records would be your best option to use.

Good luck.

Re: Erland Pedersen

Posted: 13 Jul 2014 8:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for all the information! My mom and I are planning a trip to Norway and Sweden next summer. We hope to see where our ancestors lived there. You have been a wealth of information. We did stop in Salt Lake City last week at the family search center. The Norwegian specialist helped us find more information. We will take a look at the links you suggested :)
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