Wayne, no I have nothing for Griffin Gale. Do you have any date or era on that line? I am finding some links, but not sure how to catalog each line. I'm using Family Tree Maker, but cannot run back up to save on a Travel Drive. I'm quite new to this type of search. I'm using Familysearch.org and Ancestry.com for my main searches, also a site that has given me Cemeteries that someone has catalogued and listed tombstones and inscriptions for northern NY state.