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Re: 2 Hamiltons

jacquiejauch1 — 2009-11-16 21:57:53Z

Does anyone on this board know if Alexander and Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton had a daughter named Mary Musadore Hamilton? If they did did she marry a gentlemen by the name of George Sharp of TN ?

Re: Look ups from book published by the Trumble CO., Ohio Chapter of the DAR for Revolutionary Soldiers of Ohio

Debi_Smith1 — 2009-11-13 04:31:31Z

I have a subscription to footnote.com The pension application S 40433 is listed under Nicholas Sipvill. I have never know if the v is really a v, or an r.

My connection is my father's line under Sibrel.

Hope this helps.

Debi Smith

Re: John SHELDON american navy taken prisoner by british

mfalbury1 — 2009-11-09 18:30:42Z

Hi Tom
Researching the Plymouth Sheldons....
Back as far as George Sheldon who married Frances Ware beginning of 1800's. Have been told that George was John's son. Many John's in the tree.
Have been in contact with another member of our tree who is also a descendent of George through his son John.She told me about George's father being a prisoner in Plymouth but that's all the information we have.
Can you shed any light on any of this.
Regards
Rosemary

Re: Silas Mercer b.1745 d.1796 possibly in Georgia

dsegelquist — 2009-10-28 16:32:43Z

If you would go to these two sites you will find a lot of info on them.

Family search, by the latter-day-saints, you will find a lot on the family and his 12 children.

The other is Find a Grave.
Here you will find a lot out about Silas Mecer, there is nothing on Joshua here.

Dennis Segelquist
Civilian & Military Surname Searcher
http://www.civilwarthosesurnames.blogspot.com

Silas Mercer b.1745 d.1796 possibly in Georgia

fourever_1 — 2009-10-27 23:03:11Z

I am new to this. I am looking for information on Silas Mercer b.1745 unknown d.1796 in Georgia. Wife Dorcas Mercer b.1746 d.1819 also in Georgia. They had at least one son named Joshua Mercer b.1788 d.1869 who was married to Mary D. Mercer b.1790 d.1880. Any information would be appreciated.

Naomi Rasnick, daughter of Newton Douglas Rasnick & Rosa Malissa McCoy

wjalex34 — 2009-10-09 21:41:25Z

I would be greatful if anyone had any informaton on John and Naomi Smith who moved from Dickenson Co Va to Danville Va. Naomi was my mothers sister and we lost contact with her family. I am the daughter of Hodger Mann McCoy and Winifred Rasnick. My father has been dead since 1988 but my mom is still living. My name is Gaye. Thank you for any information you can share.

A error has been made on the 755 heirs of 11 states-------

dsegelquist — 2009-09-18 16:05:10Z

There has been a Error made on my post in titled .
( 755 Heirs of 11., States-War of 1812 & Revolutionary War.)

The men and heirs on this list is for the War of 1812, and has nothing to with the Revolutionary War.

However I do have the pensioners from the Revolutionary War, this will be military info only no heirs info.

Re: 755 Heirs of 11 States-War of 1812

frostfreedet — 2009-09-18 08:32:50Z

As you stated, the list you posted was created specifically according to that particular section of that Act that pertains **only** to service in the War of 1812.

No one on that list is there for any other reason.

Provisions regarding veterans of the Revolutionary War were made under completely different statutes.

The list has nothing to do with Revolutionary War service.

Re: 755 Heirs of 11 States-War of 1812

dsegelquist — 2009-09-17 17:57:06Z

Yes it’s true the 755 heirs did die at the time of the war of 1812, and most of and if not all died in that war, However we both know that some could have and did fight in the Revolutionary War. As for the list it’s on both boards and my web site.

Thank you for the law you stated it will help people understand why there is so much diffidence in the date of his death and when he was placed on the roll.

Re: 755 Heirs of 11 States-War of 1812

frostfreedet — 2009-09-17 16:34:40Z

The Act of April 16, 1816 (3 Stat. 285) is entitled "An Act making further provision for military services during the late war, and for other purposes."

The second section reads:

"SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That when any non-commissioned officer, musician or private soldier of the regular army of the United States shall have been killed in battle, or have died of wounds or disease, while in the service of the United States, during the late war, and have left a child or children under sixteen years of age, it shall be lawful for the guardian of such child or children, within one year from the passing of this act, to relinquish the bounty land, to which such non-commissioned officer, musician or private soldier, had he survived the war, would have been entitled; and, in lieu thereof, to receive half the monthly pay to which such deceased person was entitled, at the time of his death, for and during the term of five years, to be computed from and after the seventeenth day of February, one thousand eight hundred and fifteen, the payment thereof to be made when and where other military pensions are or shall be paid; and where a warrant for the military bounty land aforesaid shall have been issued to or for the use of the child or children of any such deceased non-commissioned officer, musician or private soldier, such child or children, or either of them, being under sixteen years of age, it shall be lawful for the guardian of such minor or minors, to surrender and deliver such warrant into the office for the department of war, within one year from the passing of this act; of which surrender and delivery, the secretary of that department shall give notice to the Secretary of the Treasury, who shall thereupon give the requisite orders for the payment of the half pay hereby provided for."

The Act, including this section, is entirely relating to veterans, in service of the United States, of the "late war," that is, the War of 1812.

The full text of the statute can be read at

http://www.genealogy-quest.com/military/Pensions/Acts/16-Apr...

It might help persons seeking War of 1812 items if your posts regarding War of 1812 were on that message board instead of under Revolutionary War.

Re: 755 Heirs of 11 States-War of 1812

dsegelquist — 2009-09-16 23:13:31Z

On my list of 755 heirs, most died between 1812 & 1815, but this doesn’t mean they all died in War of 1812 some could have been in the Revolutionary War as well.
Here is the title above each states Heirs List.

Statement of the Names, &c. of the Heirs of non-commissioned Officers, Privates, &c. who died in the United States service, who obtained five years half-pay in lieu of bounty land, under the second section of the act of April 16, 1816, and who resided in the State of-----------

The pension rolls of the Unite States has both pensioners of the War of 1812 and those of the Revolutionary War.

Here is a page from the rolls that proofs my point State Pennsylvania, you will have to open the enlarging box to read it, just mover you arrow around it will come up.
http://memory.loc.gov/ll/llss/0200/0250/0600/06050041.gif

Re: 755 Heirs of 11 States-War of 1812

frostfreedet — 2009-09-16 18:44:59Z

The list is entirely about War of 1812 veterans, nothing to do with Revolutionary War. This could be confusing because there was also Congressional legislation enabling some Revolutionary War veterans to apply for pension renewals in 1820.

Re: 755 Heirs of 11., States-War of 1812 & Revolutionary War.

dsegelquist — 2009-09-13 23:04:12Z

State: Pennsylvania.
County: Bradford.
Name: Simon or Simeon Salisbury.
Rank: Corporal.
Service: 22d, regiment infantry.
Allowance: $60, dollars per year.
Sums received: $300, dollars.
Placed on pension roll: May 10, 1820.
Commencement of pension: Feb. 18, 1820.
Ending of pension: Feb. 18, 1825, was a five year pension.
Died: September 11, 1814.
Heirs: Daniel, Edward and Margaret Salisbury.

Dennis Segelquist
Civilian & Military Surname Searcher
http://www.civilwarthosesurnames.blogspot.com

Re: 755 Heirs of 11., States-War of 1812 & Revolutionary War.

RINGTONE0070 — 2009-09-13 16:00:21Z

Bradford County.

12. Simon or Simeon Salisbury, Corporal

Re: Frederick Greene

rivercrossing — 2009-09-06 22:48:07Z

Frederick Green was born in VA and was the son of Henry Green. There's a will that's easily found on-line in Halifax VA. Nobody has been able to give me proof that Frederick was born in England, because in fact he was not. He may have been listed as English on some record, but that was common for pre-revolutionary records in America. I come from Frederick's brother John's lineage.

Re: Frederick Greene

eschrad — 2009-09-06 22:10:22Z

I am a descendant of Frederick Greene (born 1745 in England), the Revolutionary War soldier who died about 1781 a prisoner of the British at Sullivans Island, SC.

I have never found anyone who could trace the family beyond Frederick. Where did you find information on his parents? And did he have any siblings? Also, do you know his wife's name? I have that it was maybe Mary or Susannah.

Re: Roland ancestors in Revolutionary War

frostfreedet — 2009-09-03 04:50:22Z

For Rolands in Georgia you are more likely to make contact with someone who knows something about your family either on the surname message board or on a board for the area of Georgia you believe your Rolands lived in.

When you post such messages, if you are specific about what places you know your definite Roland ancestor lived in, and when, you are more likely to get a response from a knowledgeable person.

When you have a major research problem in a location you are unable or unwilling to go to, you can hire an experienced researcher such as are listed on the website of the Association of Professional Genealogists.

There really is no substitute for working carefully back in time, one generation to the next.

Good hunting!

Re: Roland ancestors in Revolutionary War

JonRoland44 — 2009-09-03 02:10:58Z

Thank you, frostfreedet, but of course I already know all that. I am just trying to find people who might be able or willing to do the records research it would take to connect ancestor Jordon Roland (or others in his tree) to those who may have fought in the American Revolution, and perhaps further back to Europe. The large number of Rolands I find in the muster rolls is encouraging, suggesting persons named Roland are likely to have been fighting on the side of the Revolution.

I suspect that someone local, probably in Georgia, who is already familiar with the territory of local genealogical research is likely to be more effective than I would be coming in cold, and I would like to try to find some before making the trip.

Re: Frigate Deane in Spring 1790

F_Gargaro — 2009-08-31 19:11:17Z

Thank you for all that wonderful information. I had seen some portions of it before but wasn't really sure just how it would relate to where the Deane might have been during the months of Cyril Brown's service. Having all the information presented the way you provided it is a huge help and much appreciated. My thanks!
Florence

Re: Frigate Deane in Spring 1790

F_Gargaro — 2009-08-30 15:20:46Z

Hello Doug,

Thanks for the suggestions. Since I am not in MA, checking records there is not easy. At this point I think I will accept the theory I have based on what bits of evidence I have uncovered and leave it at that. Even proving the Deane was in port doesn't do anything to prove the paternity of Cyril. I was just hoping to fill in some historical perspective and show there was nothing to prove Cyril couldn't have been the father. Guess I should be thankful for the Attleboro birth record having the 2 surnames and the rarity of the names involved. Thanks for your help with this issue.

Florence

Re: Frigate Deane in Spring 1790

F_Gargaro — 2009-08-09 22:54:56Z

In actuality, mid-April to Dec 30 would not result in a child very premature. Human gestation from conception to birth is 266 days. An April 15 conception to a Dec 30 birth is 258 days - so that's not out of the question. And if mid-April was just a few days before that, then it isn't bad at all. My daughter was 22 days early and was small but fine - no special care was needed that would not have been available in 1790.

Thanks for the information about how "prizes" were brought into port. I am not sure why the Deane isn't a privateer, as the published invitation to enlist referred to it as The Grand Privateer Ship Deane. Where would I find information to answer that question? Another article published 11 May 1780 referred to it as the Privateer Frigate Deane.

I didn't try to get original records as both the 1850 and 1860 census had ages for him that fit with the 1790 birth date. Also his death certificate has him as 84 years 9 months at his death in early Oct. 1865. Everything seems to match up with the published birth record.

Florence

Re: Morris/Patterson Family Information

pat216 — 2009-08-04 02:31:23Z

I am seeking information on the Cynthia Lanning that married Isaac Morris and was the mother of Rubin.
Thank you,
Pat

Re: Wilson Athens

11944 — 2009-08-23 01:08:32Z

Have you done your ancestry search back to him?
His wife's name, children, grandchildren etc.
Where did you get his nane?

Re: Wilson Athens

11944 — 2009-08-22 01:07:55Z

Not in DAR index.
try SAR

Need to post alot more information so someone can help you
Good luck in your search

Re: Jesse Hooper

11944 — 2009-08-18 01:25:04Z

You didn't say what state he served or lived:
There is a Jesse Hooper
born GA 1758
died 1839 TN
spouse Elizabeth (Betsy)
children
John m/Polly Foster
William m/Eleanor

Good luck in your search

Re: Frigate Deane in Spring 1790

dsegelquist — 2009-08-31 16:58:26Z

Maybe this will give you a better time line?

Letters of Delegates to Congress: Volume 13 June 1, 1779 - September 30, 1779, Marine Committee to Samuel Nicholson .

Sir (1) June 12th 1779 The frigate Deane which you command being now ready for Sea, you are hereby directed to proceed with her on a Cruize on this coast from the Latitude of 40 to 35 degrees, and to take, burn, sink or destroy as many of the enemies Ships or vessels of every kind as may be in your power. The Prizes you will order into the nearest Ports addressed to the Continental Agents in those Ports. As we have received intelligence that a number of the enemys Privateers is cruizing to the Southward near the Latitude of 36 in expectation of intercepting the Merchant vessels bound from the West Indies to Chesapeake Bay and this Port, you are to use your endeavours to frustrate the Designs of our enemies, by Capturing or destroying as many of those Privateers as may be in your power and by Affording every aid and assistance to the inward bound vessels particularly the Brigantine Baltimore Captain Read which is loadened with Continental stores and dayly expected. As the Object of this Cruize is to take or destroy the enemies Privateers or small Ships of war and to give every aid and Assistance to the Merchantmen, you are to confine yourself Strictly to the Latitudes above and to such Longitudes as are best calculated to answer that purpose, but if from circumstances it should happen that the public service necessarily requires you to exceed those Limits, then you are at liberty to do it.
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1. The frigate Deane , of 30 guns, was a French built ship and was later renamed the ( Hague ).

2. Between February 1, 1779-May31, 1779, the Deane was some where in the Delaware.

3. The Massachusetts Court of Admiralty for the Middle District had awarded the armed ship of war Viper and her cargo both to Continental agent John Bradford and to Samuel Nicholson, commander of the Continental frigate Deane. Capt. Nicholson had captured the Viper on January 24, 1779, off the Massachusetts coast and Bradford had libeled the ship and cargo on behalf of Nicholson and the Continent, claiming that the ship, cargo, and "appurtances" should be distributed to "the captors and others concerned therein." Martin Brimmer, a Boston merchant, filed a second libel on behalf of Nicholson and his crew, however, claiming that the ship, cargo, and "appurtances" should be distributed "among the captors only." In their libels both Bradford and Brimmer cited unspecified congressional resolves. Under a congressional resolve of October 30, 1776, concerning the division of prizes, the captain and crew of Continental armed vessels were entitled to the entire value of "all ships and vessels" in case of the capture of armed vessels of war, rather than the customary one-half for merchantmen or other unarmed-vessels. The resolve did not mention the cargo and "appurtances," however. When the Massachusetts court awarded the ship and cargo to Bradford on June 28, 1779, to be divided between the captors and "others concerned therein," i.e., the Continental government, Brimmer appealed on behalf of captain and crew to Congress, where on July 24, 1779, the case was referred to the Committee on Appeals. In this decree the committee upheld the Massachusetts court decision.

4. In May of 1779, was off the cost of Georgia.

5. In may 20, 1779, the Deane had arrived from Martinico.

6. The Frigate Deane would have been in Massachusetts a number of times from November 1, 1779-March 31, 1780.

7. The Continental frigate Deane was renamed The Hague about the end of July 1782.

8. Elisha Hinman was commissioned a Captain August 20, 1776.

9. At his June court-martial Capt. Thomas Thompson was found guilty of failing to bring the Raleigh to the assistance of the Alfred during its capture on March 9, whereas the conduct of the Alfred's captain Elisha Hinman was vindicated by a court-martial in February 1779.

10. In a September 23, 1779, letter to the committee, the board had recommended that Capt. Elisha Hinman remain in command of the Trumbull.

Dennis Segelquist
Civilian & Military Surname Searcher
http://www.civilwarthosesurnames.blogspot.com

Re: INVALID

dsegelquist — 2009-08-04 20:08:50Z

All service men of the A. R. W., were all invalid pensioners rather they were disabled or not, the only ones not were the commission officer who got full commutation for their five year pension. However many officer wanted a monthly pension, but the only way they could get on the pension list was to return the full commutation, but many that got it could not afford to return it, a law was later put before Congress which later passed which give an officer a chose of full commutation or a pension.

Soon after the war the clerks of each of the pension offices of the district for each State was ordered to send out application out to all known soldiers of the war, who would have a dead line to fill out the application and send it back, those that didn’t met the dead line got no pension. Now that’s not to say they couldn’t get one, if they had all the proof they needed they could go before the district court or petition Congress.

Invalid in the eyes of the law, just means without proof. Even with proof you were still called a invalid pensioner. If you were to look at the United States pension roll’s you would find that each state is divided in to two parts Rev. War and the War of 1812, you can away tell when your leaving one part for another, not only by the dates but by the head title, part one will state invalid pensioners, while part two will state Known pensioners.

I hope this helps.

Dennis Segelquist
Civilian & Military Surname Searcher
http://www.civilwarthosesurnames.blogspot.com

Re: Invalid

dsegelquist — 2009-08-06 14:47:13Z

Your right again I forgot about the accounting statements I should have known better, I work with these documents every day for about ten years now.

However they didn’t get the disability pension because of that disability, alone they would have had to put in for it just like anyone would. They would have to show they were on the regiments pay roll, a statement from his commanding officer and buddies to show he was there and so on, then a statement from a doctor to state on how bad the disability was. I saw one man have both of his arms blown, oh he got his pension but got less because of no statement from the doctor.

How for the person that first asked the question and was left far behind. I hold by my last statement any time you see the word invalid hand written or stamped across the heading or used in a side note on the document means that part of the document or the whole thing was rejected.

Re: Invalid

dsegelquist — 2009-08-05 16:09:06Z

As I stated earlier, all service men of the A. R. W., were all invalid pensioners rather they were disabled or not, but of course your right it all depends on what “card or document “ your reading to get the true meaning of the word (invalid).

Now for the one who first ask the question. Knowing that all soldiers were invalids if you find a card or document that has the word invalid written across the heading or used in a side note, then I would take it that some part or the whole thing was rejected.

Now as to the "Schedule of the Names, Rank and Annual Stipends of the Invalids."

They were not on the list because they were ( invalid ) as they were all invalids, all those men made the list because they had to petition Congress or the District court of their State for a disability pension, their petition was sent to the revolutionary pension committee, for approval. You would have to look at each name in it’s self to understand way they had to send in a petition for their pension, for it was not just because of the disability alone.

Re: Tarvin

azslowburn14 — 2009-08-28 05:38:01Z

hello. My father was Arthur Alvin Tarvin and Arthur Ray was my half brother. My father was born in Little Rock, AR. I only saw my brother when he was very young and recently learned of his untimely death. I would be interested in connecting with his widow and my nieces and nephews. My mother did some geneology with the family. I may have more information.

Re: Frigate Deane in Spring 1790

declair59 — 2009-08-30 14:25:16Z

I guess Navy ships were also privateers at times. It seems contradictory, but as you say, the evidence is there. I only read about the ship being a "U. S. frigate," so didn't think the term privateer would apply. It's a moot point, though, since it was obviously taking ships as prizes at sea.

I agree about the not-very-premature aspect now that I recalculate the months. I had the baby being born much earlier, and 1780 medicine would not have helped. That would also negate the need to scrupulously check Cyril's birth date.

If there were any specific records of the coming and going of "Deane," it would most likely be at the National Archives in Washington, given that it was a Navy ship. I haven't used Navy records. I can't think of anything that would help locally, in Boston for instance, although that was its home port, right? The Massachusetts Archives would be the most likely spot to look in that case. The local National Archives branches (there is one for New England) have custom house shipping records for private commerce, mostly for 19th and 20th centuries. I dont' recall seeing anything else in their catalogue that would help you. You have a lot of good circumstantial evidence, though.

Doug

Re: Frigate Deane in Spring 1790

declair59 — 2009-08-09 21:10:09Z

From what I've found in my research into privateers (which Deane was not, but it was still taking prizes), they would have "prize masters" on board who would take a captured vessel into port so that the privateer didn't have to. I haven't come across a reference to a privateer coming into port with a prize. It may be that Deane came into port for provisions or more men during those five months and Cyril met up with Ruth somehow and fathered a son. It doesn't seem likely the child was premature. He would have to be very premature, and therefore not likely to have survived. I would check the orginal Attleborough records to make sure the December birth date isn't a transcription error when the vital records were published. It would fit better in this scenario if he was born in late December 1779, after Cyril, Sr., had hightailed it out to sea, but probably not. Good luck with this one!

Re: Jesse Hooper

fscangie — 2009-08-26 21:14:47Z

Are you SURE about that lineage, in particular the father of your Francis Marion Hooper?

Yes, I do know that John Hooper and his last wife Sally had a son named Francis Marion Hooper - That Frank Hooper was born in 1850 and still lived with his very aged father in 1880. John Hooper, of course, was a long-lived son of Patriot Jesse Hooper.

There is another Francis Marion Hooper who was already married to Bettie [Sarah Elizabeth Lovell, 16 Apr 1854-10 NOv 1931, married 8 Dec 1874] in 1880, and already had children Fannie and Julie at that time. In 1900, children Perry, Mattie, and Frank Hooper were still at home. Francis Marion and Bettie Hooper ultimately had 11 children, 7 of whom were yet alive in 1910 when their mother was a widow serving as assistant matron in a Nashville orphanage. This F M Hooper was born August 1842 or 1848, and appears last in the 1870 home of William M. Hooper in Davidson County, TN; in the home of the same man in 1860 as F. M. Hooper, and in 1850 in the home of Churchill Hooper. This Churchill Hooper [died 1856] was a son of Jesse Hooper, the GA Patriot. One of his older sons was named William Hooper, apparently the fellow with whom F M Hooper lived in 1860 and 1870. Thus, it seems likely that the Francis M. Hooper born about 1842/8 was a younger son also of Churchill, and thus grandson to Jesse Hooper.

BUT----Sarah Elizabeth Lovell Hooper [the wife mentioned above] was a child of John H Lovell and his wife Parthenia Clementine Hooper. Mrs. Lovell [formerly P C Hooper] was born in 1817, and was a child of John B. Hooper [son of Jesse] and John's earlier wife, formerly Polly Foster. Thus, there are two lineages tying back to Patriot Jesse Hooper.

My interest in this family derives from communications in 1990 with a 1c1r of yours, Marsha Lee Hooper. I regret that I have lost all contact with her and have no idea where she might be, else I would direct you to communicate directly with her.
You might want to check my website
http://www.fscompass.com/military/rw.html
for evidence of these two sons (John and Church L Hooper) of the Patriot Jesse Hooper.

Re: National Society of Daughters of Founders and Patriots of America (NSDFP)

acrossmay — 2009-08-25 23:34:26Z

Found it!

Family Archive CD 7506
Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s

Re: National Society of Daughters of Founders and Patriots of America (NSDFP)

acrossmay — 2009-08-25 23:31:04Z

Could you be more specific as to which Family Archive CD?I've searched the Ancestry shop site, but can't locate this index.

Thank you.

John OWEN 1700s NC

xd22577 — 2009-08-16 14:31:27Z

Sorry - I don't have any other info.
Have you checked Indentured Servant books? i know they have them for some counties in Virginia. Someone was kind enough to go through Order Books and pull out where someone got land for bringing people into the colony and list their names.
I like this website: http://www.immigrantservants.com/search/surname.php?letter=O... I didn't see a John Owen in North Carolina, but there was one in Barbados that might have made it up, not to mention Virginia and Maryland that weren't that far away. If you go down to the bottom you can see where they got the info and check it out yourself. My ancestor is listed as indentured and 12yrs old, then later in the book he's there are being the Master. Just a suggestion.

Julie

Re: Jesse Hooper

hunterdeuling — 2009-08-27 10:07:29Z

Hello and thanks for the response. I have spent a great deal more time searching my family tree on my father side (Hunter, Hunt, Hale). But yes I am the cousin of Marsha Hooper. And my beginnings started with her research from the early 90s.

I too have lost all track of her. And can not even find anyone that has her contact information. But I currently live in Europe, so I do not have strong contacts with the Hooper family. But Marsha's father and my grandmother were bother and sister.

All the best
Rob.

You are welcome to email and stay in contact rob@hunterdeuling.com

Jesse Hooper

hunterdeuling — 2009-08-14 10:41:40Z

I am seeking assistance in making application to the SAR based on my linage to Jesse Hooper.

I am hoping someone has already made application and been accepted by the DAR or SAR.

My direct Linage is Bessie Hooper (Grandmother), Robert Larkin Hooper, Francis Marion Hooper, John Barclay Hooper, Jesse Hooper (Patriot).

Any assistance could be greatly appreciated

Dempsey Hunter

hunterdeuling — 2009-08-14 10:38:42Z

I am in the process of making application to the SAR based on my linage to Dempsey Hunter.

My linage is Robert Hunter (Father), Jack Hunter (Grand Father) Allen Hunter, Thomas W. Hunter Dempsey Hunter, Dempsey Hunter (Patriot).

I am hoping someone has applied for membership in the DAR or SAR based on a similar linage, which will help in the application process.

All the best
Rob

Wilson Athens

csc2000e — 2009-08-21 23:22:20Z

Hey I don't have any information on this guy and his birth or death or who he is married to. I am wondering how to find a revolutionary war record on him. He served in the revolutionary war from start to finish. I believe he may of been from Virginia since his daughter is a native Virginian.

Re: Wilson Athens

csc2000e — 2009-08-22 02:33:08Z

Thanks. Sad thing is tho I have no more info on him right now.

Re: Roland ancestors in Revolutionary War

JonRoland44 — 2009-09-01 16:16:10Z

Correction: My ancestor's first name was selled "Jordon" based on what I have found so far.

Roland ancestors in Revolutionary War

JonRoland44 — 2009-09-01 15:57:56Z

I have been able to trace my name ancestors back to Jordan Roland, born 1808 in Lowndes, Georgia (wife Lucinda), and have also found many Rolands who served in the Revolutionary War, but so far I haven't been able to close the gap to identify any of them as my ancestors. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Re: Mary/Polly SOLOMON m. Bailey OWEN 16 Aug 1797

liamactor01 — 2009-08-16 03:13:47Z

Good evening,

I just came across this post and found it incredibly interesting. The people outlined below are my relatives.

John Owen was the father of William & Bailey and it is believed that he arrived in North Carolina from Wales in the early 1700's. This, of course, is unverified.

Bailey Owen was my ggggg grandfather.

Joshua Owen my gggg grandfather.

Elias Oran Owen was my ggg grandfather and served in the 7th Tennessee cavalry in the civil war. He disappeared during service.

William Wood Owen was my gg grandfather. He was named after the Wood family who were very close friends of the Owen's family in Fentress County. He is the one who moved or lineage to Texas.

William Bailey (WB) Owen Sr. was my g grandfather.

William Bailey (WB) Owen Jr. was my g father.

William Robert Owen Sr. is my father.

and I am William Robert Owen Jr.

I have several of Bailey's revolutionary war records. I also have the pension applications.

I also have several tin photo's from around the mid 1800's. Mostly of William Wood Owen.

Any more info you have would certainly be welcome. And if you find any information on John Owen, I sure would appreciate it.

Re: Invalid

frostfreedet — 2009-08-05 06:25:07Z

As noted earlier, distinguishing which meaning is meant depends on context.

For example, in the volume entitled, _Letter from the Secretary of War, communicating A Transcript of the Pension List of the United States showing the Number of Pensioners in the Several Districts. Also, The Amount Allowed to each Pensioner dated June 1, 1813, Referred to the Committee of Claims._, the list is headed "Schedule of the Names, Rank and Annual Stipends of the Invalids."

That list was of severely wounded men who were granted pensions.

Since you do not explain what sort of "card" you mean, it is difficult to interpret the meaning of the word 'invalid' that you are referring to.

Re: Invalid

frostfreedet — 2009-08-05 21:10:24Z

An internet search for "invalid pensioners" will give you some useful information.

Re: Invalid

frostfreedet — 2009-08-05 21:00:22Z

I know for sure about several of them who were indeed severely wounded in action, which was the reason they were given pensions.

The reason the list was sent to congress was for fiscal accounting purposes: all of the men on the list were already receiving stipends, which are listed along with their entries. This was not a list of pending requests.

Re: Roland ancestors in Revolutionary War

frostfreedet — 2009-09-02 18:51:33Z

Records regarding the Revolutionary War are unlikely to tell you who the parents were of your Jordan Roland b. 1808.

It is possible that his father or a grandfather was one of the ones whose active-duty service you found, or was a patriot who reported for militia musters or provided some service to the Patriot side of the war, or was a Loyalist.

If you know where your Jordan lived, County land, estate or Court records may give you a clue to his parentage or where he was born. Then you can check in that location for further land, estate and Court records that may prove who your Jordan's parents were.

This will most often require in-person research in those localities, and a State Archive. Any local historical societies and University Libraries may also have manuscript collections that could be helpful.

Good hunting!

Re: Invalid

frostfreedet — 2009-08-03 03:31:48Z

May depend on who was making the 'record' and what kind of 'record' you are looking at.

In PA, some of the Associators were over-age and some called 'invalids'.

Some who applied for disability pensions were severely wounded invalids.

INVALID

glpreas — 2009-08-01 13:36:26Z

On ARW Records does INVALID mean disabled or not qualified? I have seen many times on Card on top.
Gerald Preas