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Re: 201 Ny infantry company G

falsterden — 2013-05-28 03:22:59Z

Hi katdude1, this isn't enough information to kick start a search for you so I'll add more that you posted in another thread:

"Siegmund Katzmann born in Saxony or Pfreimd Germany 1852. Immigrated to New York in 1871 (or 1873). Lived at 240 Rivington Street. Married Minna Engel. Moved up to Hells Kitchen in the 1880s. Had five children but three died. The two that survived were named Robert James who married Helen Mcclarnon, and Jacob who was single. They later moved to West New York (Guttenberg) New Jersey."

What was it that you wanted to know about Robert?

1880
New York City, New York, New York
S. Katzman 28 born about 1852 Germany, grocer
Mena Katzman 24 born about 1856 Germany
Jacob Katzman 2 born about 1878 New York
Robt. Katzman 3 months born about 1880 New York
Clara Dahlemier 53 mother-in-law, born about 1827 in Germany

There is an enrollment of a Robert Katzman in New York in the 201 New York Infantry, 1898, Spanish American War. Are you wondering if that's "your" Robert?

http://dmna.ny.gov/historic/reghist/spanAm/infantry/201stInf...

1918 World War I draft registration
Robert James Katzmann, age 38
Born 12 February 1880
Native born
Occupation: Automobile Mechanic
Employer: New York Edison, 15th and Irving Place, New York
Nearest Relative: (wife) Mrs. Helen G. Katzmann
783 McKinley Pl., West New York, Hudson, NJ

World War II draft registration
Robert James Katzmann, age 62
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1880
Birth Place: Nyc, New York
Address: 431 65th Street, WNY, H, NJ
Race: White
Person who will always know your address:
Mrs. Helen Katzmann

201 Ny infantry company G

katdude1 — 2013-05-20 02:33:03Z

Robert Katzmann any info?

Government Program

k79lawrence — 2013-05-07 11:58:30Z

Hello,
I had a Great Aunt by the name of Manila Philipena who was born on July 16, 1898, during the Spanish American War.
We have heard stories that were handed down from generation to generation that the United States Government during the Spanish American War had some kind of program in which any parents who had a female child during the Spanish American War and named that child Manila Philipena would receive a check from the United States Government for $10.00.
I was wondering if there is anyone out there who might be able to tell me if such a program ever existed, and if so any background information would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Keith Lawrence

k79lawrence@gmail.com

Re: Thomas Jefferson Porter

kass_williams0927 — 2013-04-27 00:05:54Z

I'm not sure. I just know he was in it at some point. His gravestone doesn't offer much, just his name and dates. :(
I'd have no idea where to start looking for this kind of thing.

Re: Thomas Jefferson Porter

ycaso77 — 2013-04-26 20:49:05Z

Haven't found any records that match him. Do you know if he was a regular or a volunteer? And does his grave stone have any information?

Re: Spanish American War

ycaso77 — 2013-04-26 20:42:14Z

Nothing shows up in Army enlistment records. You would need to have a general idea when he enlisted and if he was a regular or a volunteer. Considering he was an officer have you tried the old records division in Washington DC?

Textual Archives Service Division of the National Archives in Washington DC.
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/pr...

Re: Help with Spanish-American War Info

ycaso77 — 2013-04-26 20:35:26Z

1st photo shows troops undergoing rifle practice, they're using Krag-Jorgenson rifles- the first repeater in general use by US troops. Do you know if he was a regular or a volunteer soldier, as volunteer units were still using Springfields for the most part.

2nd photo show a group of soldiers in US army khaki fatigue uniforms in the first row, and the blue wool service dress in the second row. What's interesting is the man in the upper right has cavalry insignia on his hat, and the middle man has what looks like a regimental number and a company letter on the collar points of his uniform. 25th maybe? Wisconsin only enlisted infantry and an artillery battery for the war, so he may be a veteran who reenlisted and was wearing his old uniform considering he's wearing a medal.

3rd photo is of an encampment.

4th photo is of an encampment with the boys acting out an amputation scene.

If you have a name he may have served under, it would help to post it. Also you can order pre-WW1 military records from

the Textual Archives Service Division of the National Archives in Washington DC.
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/pr...

Wisconsin records-
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/military/spanish_american_wa...

Help with Spanish-American War Info

GARYHAHRNDT — 2013-04-22 20:24:01Z

Attached are 4 pictures of my Grandfather Ed Ahrndt who ran away from home at age 14 and we believe he may have used a dead brother's name and birthdate to join the Army in 1898. We know little of his exploits, other then that after training, they boarded a ship to go to war and the war ended before they got there. I wondered if anyone can give me any info on where they may have been trained, uniform information, the IRR lettering on the tent in the one picture, ect. My Grandfather was from Two Rivers, Wisconsin and I assume he joined up somewhere in Wisconsin. Thanks for any clarification you can help with.

Gary Ahrndt

Spanish American War

charlynMenapace — 2013-04-09 23:20:16Z

Looking for a Capt. Charles L Beatty from born in Virginia in Spanish American war. Anyone have any info?

Thomas Jefferson Porter

kass_williams0927 — 2013-03-18 19:21:07Z

I know that my g.g.grandfather Thomas Jefferson Porter fought in the Spanish/American war, but I can't find records of him. He was born in Jan 1877 in Burlingame, MO, but lived most of his life in Dublin, GA. Where can I find Spanish/American War records for him? Thanks so much and God bless!
~Katherine

43rd Coastal Artillery

JohnStorch — 2013-01-14 22:44:40Z

Trying to track down the location where my wife’s great uncle would have seen his military service. He is listed as belonging to the “43rd Company of the Coast Regiment of Artillery” during the Spanish American War. His dates of service were Jan 1899 to Jan 1902, so it would more likely be during the Philippine American War. Not having much luck finding history on this Company prior to WWI.

Re: Capt Levi Castle

JoannaVilasHanchey — 2013-01-02 17:50:43Z

Have you found the info you were seeking? Levi is my great grandfather his daughter Lora Belle was my grandmother and her son Joseph Norman was my father. Whose daughter are you?

Re: Trying To Identify the family of Tom McEldowney

DecMay — 2012-12-28 03:52:33Z

The NARA has Spanish American War Pension Cards on the microfilm Titled "U.S., Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934"
Ancestry has images of this microfilm and Thomas H McEldowney with widow Erma has Thomas H on second line as a "alias" and the name his records maybe under is Herschel McEldowney. Erma filed in Ohio and the units written on card "Cas Detch. & C&H 29th US Infantry.
As Herschel McEldowney Ancestry has databases "U.S. Returns from Regular Army Infantry", "U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914" (enlisted PA) Nand "U.S., Returns from Military Posts, 1806-1916" (has middle initial G returned 1904 to Military Post: USA General Hospital, Presidio, San Francisco, CA, he was also discharged from the Army at the Presidio)

A family tree online has he died in Salem, Columbania County Ohio.
1910 Census Thos and Erma are "Roomers" living in Youngstown. Mahoning County OH. Ancestry has a space between MC and Eldowney for 1910 census search so search McEldowney and Mc Eldowney to find all records, at least with Ancestry.
Look in Columbiana and Mahoning County for burial.

Re: Curtis James Ney

DecMay — 2012-12-28 02:49:16Z

Are you sure you never noted or wrote down the website address you found it on?
Could have been on one of several early family or group sites that have been shut down or changed software and is "lost" or need to be a registered to access.
After 2003, maybe 5 years ago USGenWeb.org made some changes that made allot of links to other pages "lost". Also several group type websites like GeoCities etc quit working where lots of early internet genealogy searchers posted family research and pictures.
There are several online trees at Ancestry but none have any photos.
Try to find a website for his unit:
NEY, CURTIS, J.
21st Regiment, Co. M (buried:Shamokin Cemetery, Shamokin, PA)

Re: Which regiment would this man be in?

CarolynJohns14 — 2012-12-20 09:06:56Z

I believe it was the US Army.

Re: Which regiment would this man be in?

K72ndst — 2012-12-19 21:03:18Z

Since he enlisted in Philadelphia, did he join the U.S. Marines or the U.S. Army?

Re: Which regiment would this man be in?

ToddDaubenspeck — 2012-12-06 01:38:26Z

The Spanish-American War actually went longer than the conflict in Cuba. The famous battles in Cuba were just one theater of operations for the war. The Philippine Insurrection was another. The intent of the war was to drive the Spanish influence from the Western Hemisphere.

The soldier that this lady is asking about would have been credited with Spanish-American War service for serving in the Philippine Islands. The action there lasted until about 1902.

Re: How do you find a Spanish/American Vet Info

ycaso77 — 2012-11-17 16:19:56Z

First, do you have a birth date for him? Also you can check here for any records of pre-WW 1 service. Contact the old records division in Washington DC-
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/pr...

Virginians served in four volunteer regiments, the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th Virginia Regiments. The Virginians who volunteered
expected to see active service as a part of the Volunteer Army of the United States, but few of them ever reached Cuba. Of the
four regiments, only the 4th Regiment was sent to Cuba, and only for a short time following the signing of the Treaty of Paris,
which officially ended the war. For a detailed account of the service of the Virginia Volunteers during the Spanish-American
War, see the United Spanish War Veterans, Department of Virginia, Annual Report of the Department Historian (E714.3 U7).

How do you find a Spanish/American Vet Info

Estep_Pat — 2012-11-13 00:30:00Z

My Grandfather was in the Spanish/American War. Burrell Jones of Virginia. I cannot find any type of information. except for certain States. Can any one help?

Re: old spanish american war pic found!

highlandmg — 2012-11-04 04:06:41Z

My Uncle Denis/dennis Glynn fought in the war for Ireland

Curtis James Ney

vivney1 — 2012-11-04 00:34:47Z

I found his Picture on line early on, abt. 2003 or so, but I didn't know how to get it to where I could save it. Now I can't find it. It was him in his compamy picture in full uniform. if anyone runs across it please let me know how to get to it. Viv Ney

Re: Spanish- American War/Sussman

ycaso77 — 2012-10-24 16:14:24Z

If you're trying to find a Spanish-American War servcie record, try the Old Records Division of the National Archives.

Textual Archives Services Division
Washington, DC 20408

http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/pr...

Some states also hold Span-Am service records, The state of New York might be a good choice.
http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_mi_warsv...

Re: Spanish- American War/Sussman

BobNY — 2012-10-21 03:46:08Z

"I need help to obtain information from the Spanish- american war no luck so far finding my ancestor. in that era."

What exactly are you looking for? What do you mean by "finding my ancestor in that era"?

Spanish- American War/Sussman

annalsussman — 2012-10-21 03:03:26Z

My grand father was a hero in the Spanish-American war, have 2 medals and a postmortem letter from a president, he served in Santiago de Cuba his name was Louis Sussman born 12/14/1880 in Russia and served in the Navy. I need help to obtain information from the Spanish- american war no luck so far finding my ancestor. in that era.

Re: Were aliases common in Spanish-American War?

jacopetti — 2012-10-04 13:36:57Z

My grandfather used his own Jesse Earl Haggard out of Covington, Kentucky but, a deceased brothers birthday as he was 13. I have pictures plus a journal he wrote. It is unbelievable just written beautifully I don't know how much schooling he had. He loved his country.

Re: Were aliases common in Spanish-American War?

robtdt446265 — 2012-09-29 13:53:23Z

I can't comment on the commonality of aliases, but I can note that my grandfather Herbert C. Thomas enlisted, underage, as Harry Thompson (sic ?). He was apparently only 16 and was eventually discovered. There are two known color pictures of him in his uniform. One was in the possession of John, his son, deceased, and/or John's son Jamie/Jaime, last known to be in Veedersburg, IN, area.
This picture or a copy is very much desired.

Re: Trying To Identify the family of Tom McEldowney

petermooney51 — 2012-09-21 14:16:37Z

Hi James. Here is the entry I found in the Pa. death
cert. indices...

McEldowney Thomas H
cert# 31479
Westmoreland Co
11 Mar 1916

I can search for his death cert. and/or his military
records at the Pa. Archives Thursday.
Email me...

parrid@webtv.net

Pete.

Re: Sp-Am War Cemetery Manila found

NaThompson82 — 2012-09-08 17:24:00Z

My Apologizes for being so remiss in thanking you for your e-mail relating to the 1st North Dakota Volunteers. (12 Feb 2012) I will now continue my search for further information using your clue. Thank you so much on behalf of my great uncle, Walter A. Scott buried in the National Cemetery in San Francisco.
Nancy

Re: Enlistment of Louis Hansen

1PeggyReeves — 2012-08-14 16:43:33Z

It is also possible that your ancestor named Louis Hansen has been confused with some other. The Louis Hansen who served in the G 3 IL Infantry in the Spanish-American War is a pensioner. You can see his pension card on the Index to Civil War Pension Files at ancestry or familysearch. Spanish-American War pensioners were included on that index, even though it doesn't come right out and say so. SA War pensioners have a tiny handwritten "s" on the pension card after the word "invalid".

The soldier who served in the G 3 IL Inf applied for pension in March of 1922 while living in the state of Michigan. There are about 5 "Louis Hansen" on the microfilm of pensioners, and maybe more who served and were not pensioned. You might want to check all of them and make sure which one is yours before ordering a pension file. I didn't look at all the cards to see who was CW and who was SA. The pension file at NARA would certainly give you a positive ID on the soldier one way or the other.

Best wishes.

Re: Rushin Johnson - Navy

DecMay — 2012-07-26 00:21:23Z

Ancestry has his "Internment Control Card" Has his USN Service Number as 1547976 Retired 5/7/1932

First wife Elizabeth M d. 1946 looks like also buried there.

Next of Kin 2nd wife Mae E. Johnson 2713 so. 17th Penn. PA

His WWII Draft Registration Card (1942) says he was born Wise County TX, Lived in Philadelphia, PA, wife Elizabeth will always know his address and his employer is Philadelphia Quartermaster War Dept at 20th and Johnson.

So looks like he retired form Navy 1932 and became a Civil Servant for War Dept. With Service Number should be able to get a copy of his Service record from NARA. Navy Service records not affected by 1973 fire.

Re: Enlistment of Louis Hansen

edieerickson03 — 2012-06-14 18:09:43Z

Thanks! That is very helpful!

Re: Enlistment of Louis Hansen

ycaso77 — 2012-06-14 14:34:39Z

To answer your first question, technically Spanish American War service was considered any time between 21 Apr. 1898 and 4 July 1902. If he was stationed in the Moro Province of the Phillipines, the date is extended to 1903. So he does fall within the dates to be considered a Span-Am War veteran.
The 3rd Ilinois was a militia regiment, what to day would be the National Guard. He might have had a sponsor or family member already here enlist him in the unit. That would make him more likely to pass the immigration inspectors if he had no money upon arrival, but he had papers showing he had a job and sponsor waiting for him. Or the dates could be slightly off.

Re: old spanish american war pic found!

edieerickson03 — 2012-06-12 14:06:18Z

Do you know the name of the soldier? What was your grandfather's name? You might start by trying to find his regiment and company.

Enlistment of Louis Hansen

edieerickson03 — 2012-06-12 14:02:51Z

Hi, I am a little confused about the enlistment of my grandfather, Louis Hansen (aka Laust Fredrick Hansen). These are the facts that I have found documents for:

He immigrated to the US on August 20 of 1901.
His enlistment is June 30, 1901.
He was discharged April 30, 1903.
His headstone lists that he was in the Spanish American War as part of the 3rd Illinois Infantry, Company G.

I also know that the Spanish American War lasted from April-August 1898.

Here are the questions:

Why would he be credited with serving the Spanish American War if he didn't enlist until 2 years after it was done?

Was it common/possible that foriegn soldiers enlisted before immigrating?

Thanks,
Edith

Were aliases common in Spanish-American War?

catsend — 2012-05-30 23:11:17Z

I've found so many aliases in keying volunteers, I'm wondering if it was a common practice?

Many of the names seem deliberately changed, not just errors in spelling. Were they trying to hide their identities or their ages?

old spanish american war pic found!

tskokowski1 — 2012-05-24 19:57:43Z

I have inherited a picture of a soldier that appears to be from the spanish american war. It was found in an old bible when my grandparents moved to California during WW II. Just trying to place it and maybe connect and return to the family! Can i get direction for this please. I am waiting for the full story before i scan it.
thankx
teresa

Re: Rushin Johnson - Navy

keame — 2012-05-23 08:23:33Z

Rushin Hines Johnson is buried at Arlington National Cemetery, with his wife Elizabeth M Johnson. He was born February 19, 1880, and he died June 26, 1951. His stone there lists his USN rank as "Pay Clerk". See the memorial for him on findagrave.com

Re: Spanish-American War Records Question

ycaso77 — 2012-05-17 14:52:43Z

The "Hospital Corps- United States Army" would be the major command he was assigned to. It would equal someone being in the Coast Artillery but being assigned to "119th Coast Artillery- C Battery". You would normally enter military assignments like this, "A" Company, 15th Medical Company, 8th Field Hospital, Hospital Corps, US Army.

Spanish-American War Records Question

Rosana1961 — 2012-05-13 00:12:38Z

I've just started entering records and have a question. There are "See also" notes. They read "Hosp, Corps, USA" - there do I enter this? There's already a Company and Unit listed, do I add this info to one of those headers?

Re: How Do You Find Veteran - and How Young Could They Be??

wekendra — 2012-05-11 21:10:56Z

The last Spanish-american WAr veteran was Nathan Cook, who died in Sept 1992. He enlisted in the Navy in 1901 at age 16.

Re: Robert David McCann KIA 1898

gerard67_gormley — 2012-05-07 13:05:52Z

hello again. sorry but not coi but dont bother much with any church. dont really need a middle man . the two sisters almost certainly died of tb which was still a major threat since the famine and wasnt eradicated completley until around 1910/1912 according to any reading i have done on the topic. my grandfather and two of his sisters were the only survivors from his family as children. two others died from tb when infants. most graveyards around the country show a similar pattern during this period. females were more at risk as they tended to work at home with the mother or in factories with other women and would have picked up the illness from breathing in the spores. men tended to work on the land and the outside life may have kept them less at risk. poor housing , damp and cold and poor nourishment all increased the chances . girls were second to eat in lots of households as the men were givin priority as they did more manual labour according to researching history books regarding this period. the girls were under nourished and this weakened them more. a local historian from lurgan called frank mc corry published a book a few years back about all the churches and chapels in north armagh .it covers build dates and details of architects involved and which churches in england were built from the same plans or vice versa. ardmore church is well covered in the book .regards gerard.

Re: Walter V McCoy - New York

ycaso77 — 2012-05-04 23:38:58Z

2nd Lieutenant Cecil Vincent McCoy
212th Coastal Artillery Regiment (AA)
Battery "F" New York National Guard
page 640 of the 1925 New York National Guard Registry
born 18 July 1902

You can check with the following to see if he has any surviving records-
the New York State Archives
http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_mi_wwi_m...

You can also try the National Archives, although depending on his date of discharge there was a large fire in St Louis that destroyed 80% of service records.
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/

Also I've attached the insignia for the 212th Artillery

Re: Walter V McCoy - New York

daveruss1 — 2012-05-04 16:22:34Z

I will definitely do that!

One other question, my Grandfather Cecil Vincent McCoy joined the NY National Guard in a Shore Battery in 1929.

Where would I have to go to find copies of these records? What about Service records as well?

Thanks a billion! You have been EXTREMELY helpful!

Dave

Re: Walter V McCoy - New York

ycaso77 — 2012-05-04 16:12:59Z

You're more than welcome. If you have any trouble finding the records on here, let me know.

Re: Walter V McCoy - New York

daveruss1 — 2012-05-04 15:02:40Z

Thank you so much this was huge!!!

Dave

Re: Walter V McCoy - New York

ycaso77 — 2012-05-03 21:36:42Z

There is an army enlistment record for a Walter V. MCoy. Enlisted in "L" Battery, 2nd US Artillery on 18 June 1898 at Jersey City, New Jersey. Listed as a 21 year old student. He was discharged in the Phillipines on 12 May 1899. There is also a pension card for him, looks like he filed for a pension around 27 Mar. 1918.
You can send away for his military records,but you will have to order them from the old records branch that handles pre- WW1 military service.
http://www.archives.gov/research/order/order-vets-records.ht...

Here's a page explaining how to order his pension files-
http://www.spanamwar.com/geneaol2.htm#Finding info.

Re: Robert David McCann KIA 1898

wdywuk — 2012-05-01 07:23:46Z

Hi Gerard,

It was the KIA Manila that caught my eye when I started delving into my family history. The family lived in a farm about 1/2 miles from the church along the lough road (don't know its proper name - if you imagine the church then it's the road that runs along the RHS of the graveyard to wards Lough Neigh). If you are CoI an interesting aside is Robert Davids cousin was Archbishop James McCann, primate of all Ireland in the 1960's. Also, I've always wondered what illness caused the two sisters to die within a month of each other. We are so lucky to have eradicated so many illnesses that were deadly back then.

John

Re: Robert David McCann KIA 1898

gerard67_gormley — 2012-04-30 22:26:02Z

what a wonderful medium the internet is. i was out for a walk this evening with my daughter and stopped to wander around the graveyard at ardmore church ,which is 4 miles from lurgan co.armagh n. ireland. i noticed this headstone of the mc cann family and the killed in action inscription caught my eye. i have a strong military history from my mothers side of the family so i guess this is where my interest in warfare history stems from. i was intrigued how a man from these parts found his way to manilla in 1898 as it was not a place where you would immediately expect to find an irish man dying. knowing it was too early to be the first world war i googled the name robert david mc cann and was amazed to find his american army link. i live a half mile from the churchyard and never noticed the inscription until now. its a long way from home even in modern times but to die alone so far from home in 1898 must have been terrible.robert died on 5th august 1898 aged 27 years. it also lists his 2 sisters , johanna who died on 27 april 1870 aged 5 yrs and mary sophia on 6th may 1870 aged 6 years. robert was born the following year 1871 being 27 years old when he died in 1898. his father edward died 24th jan 1885 aged 66 yrs and his mother sophia died 19 feb 1891 aged 59 yrs according to the headstone.

Walter V McCoy - New York

daveruss1 — 2012-04-20 17:44:25Z

Trying to Identify Walter Vincent McCoy's Spanish American War Service Record.

He enlisted in the Army in 1898. I know he came down sick and spent time in Long Island recovering from Yellow Fever.

I have a bunch of medals from my Great Aunt (who I discovered at age 89 through Ancestory.com) from all of his visits to the various camps and meetings.

I believe he was either part of the NY (Bronx) group or New Jersey.

Any thoughts on how to find his records?

Thanks,

Dave

Re: John Henry

marverci — 2012-04-19 00:56:56Z

I found him buried in grave #1 in Cardenas, Cuba. His remains couldn't be returned because he was serving under an assumed name with no relatives listed. Thank you for your ideas......