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Re: World War I Alien Registration Cards

amalysh52 — 2013-03-06 23:10:45Z

can you scan in the registration card. I found my grandparents cards and want to see if they are identical.

alien enemy registration records from New York

snreilly18 — 2012-07-26 20:36:22Z

I am wondering how to find alien enemy registration records from New York. Are they online somewhere? Can I order them from somewhere? Thanks!!

Re: World War I Alien Registration Cards

WGMichell — 2011-11-18 20:51:36Z

The History Center at Fort Wayne, Indiana has quite a few of these origanal files. An index of these files is available at the Fort Wayne Genealogy Center at Main Branch of the Allen County Public Library.

Re: WW1 Italian side

Champlain9 — 2011-10-14 17:22:17Z

Search the internet there is lots there.

Regards

WWI and WWII Alien Registration

webdivauk — 2011-07-08 14:24:44Z

I'm wondering if there were Alien Registration's carried out in the UK, on similar lines to what happened in America.

If there were, where would the information be available and could anyone provide me with background information.

Thanks in advance
Sian

WW1 Italian side

kelleyrossiter — 2011-03-03 23:16:03Z

HI, was just wondering if anyone knew a helpful site or could suggest something to me. My Great Grandfather fought in WW1 on the Italian side. I would like to try to locate some records on that. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Re: World War I Alien Registration Cards

kkoory — 2010-09-28 00:38:05Z

Just generally speaking. I am from the old country. This is how it worked. Depending on where your relatives lived they could have been either nationality due to the fact that certain eastern parts of Polen/Germany changed hands frequently. Some of those parts would be Silesia (Schlesien)
Pomerania, (Pommern), Prussia (Preussen), etc Kratzman sounds German, Polcyn does not sound German and Kratzmann should maybe have two "N's" on the end. Regards, mother to Koory Tree

Re: World War I Alien Registration Cards

kkoory — 2010-09-28 00:37:22Z

Re: World War I Alien Registration Cards

RobertJerin — 2009-12-13 02:28:27Z

Name: Simon Kratzmann
Arrival Date: 31 Jul 1882
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Hamburg, Germany
Place of Origin: Rogasen, Preußen
Ship Name: Bohemia
Traveling with
Marianne age 31
Joh. age 4
Pal age 2
Antoine age 6 months

Rogasen, Prussia is now Rogozno Poland

http://remus.shidler.hawaii.edu/genes/netze/Rogozno/home.htm

Robert

Re: alien registration card records for Michigan

tinaellis65 — 2009-08-03 03:20:33Z

Have you checked the stare archives in Lansing/

alien registration card records for Michigan

mhansen159 — 2008-06-23 02:47:17Z

A relative just mailed me images of an alien registration card for my 2nd great grandmother, and a work permit card for my 2nd great grandfather, both in Saginaw, MI, July 1918.
Does anyone know where the affidavits from Saginaw are kept?
I noticed that the National Archives used an example of such an affidavit from Michigan.
Thanks.

Re: Question re: Canadian men being drafted.

BabyBennett73 — 2008-04-27 04:40:19Z

It was WWI not WWII.
Jody

Re: Question re: Canadian men being drafted.

BabyBennett73 — 2008-04-27 04:38:49Z

Thanks so much for your reply. My great grandfathers oldest brother did filled out a registration card wasnt chosen. He was older & had a family, I have since been in touch with his family. The younger brother Chester Gordon Bennett registered in Oregan for WWII. He went M.I.A. & was ever found. I heard he was sent to Russia. He was born in Petrolia, Canada in 1888. While on my search I was informed of the fire that destroyed the records.

Re: Question re: Canadian men being drafted.

DecMay — 2008-04-27 04:16:10Z

This is copied and pasted from the Ancestry.com website explaining the WWI Draft Registration Cards which they have online images of:
"History
On 6 April 1917, the United States declared war on Germany and officially entered World War I. Six weeks later, on 18 May 1917, the Selective Service Act was passed, which authorized the president to increase the military establishment of the United States. As a result, every male living within the United States between the ages of eighteen and forty-five was required to register for the draft.

The period of 1880-1920 was a high immigration period to the United States. Young men were required to register for the draft regardless of their U.S. citizenship status. Of course, not all the men who registered actually served in the armed forces, and there were some who served in the war but did not register for the draft."

So having a Draft Registration Card or "paper" does not mean one was "drafted". In very simple terms they took the cards and then the Selective Service Office held a lottery to pick those who would be sent a notice of conscription into the military service. If a man was already in the service he was exempted from filing a card.

All U.S. Military service records are stored at the NARA
(www.archives.gov) In 1973 they has a fire that destroyed most of all Army personel records from WWI to 1960's. Other services at the time had their records stored elsewhere, but today all services are stored there. You might get lucky and your great uncle(s) might only be singled. The website has directions and forms to download for a search.

At the American Battle Monuments Commission website has an index of U.S. Service men buried overseas from WWI. http://www.abmc.gov/home.php

Remember there was an 1918 flu pandemic that killed an estimated 43000 U. S. service men of WWI.

Local papers would publish the names of those in their area that were serving, on leave visiting family and deaths. Also War Memorials were made listing those who died from the county, city or state that wanted them to be remembered.

What were their names and I can check my online sources for clues. Where were they living at the time? The 1930 census asked a question about being a Veteran and what war. Do you know if the 45 yr old was still alive for this census?

Question re: Canadian men being drafted.

BabyBennett73 — 2008-01-22 22:25:17Z

Hello all, looking for a little help.
My great grandfathers 2 brothers were Canadians living in the States when they were drafted for the WWI. I have their draft registration paper. So, where do I go find where they went or what happened to them? I know where to go for Canadian soldiers but I need US Gov. sites where their names are. My mom said her grandfather mentioned one of this brothers was lost when he went to war. With the info thats available now, Im sure I can find what happened to them. Another question, if the men were deemed fit, were all of them sent to war ? The eldest brother was 43 on his draft papers. Thanks for your help.

Re: How to obtain copies of Enemy Alien Registration Affidavits

slantzy8775 — 2007-01-25 09:18:20Z

Hi Janet,
Here's how I got copies of the files I needed: Call, write or email the Central Plains Region of the National Archives.

2312 East Bannister Road
Kansas City, Missouri 64131-3011

Email: kansascity.archives@nara.gov*

Phone: 816-268-8000

You might also try the Archives online ordering.

The file I got were 8 pages each and the cost was $17.00 each. Well worth the money spent. Each file had a photograph, fingerprints, their signature and immigration info and vitals.

Good luck with your research!
Sheri Beffort-Lantzy

Re: No record found wwI

NancyHammons — 2006-11-05 14:34:03Z

That would be the Recruit Training Command. It was first established as a base in July 1905. Your Great Grandpa probably was a civilian working for the government as a chef in the Galley. My Dad was a cook in the Navy, but when he was stationed in the U.S. a lot of the people he worked with were civilian.

Re: World War I Alien Registration Cards

nanablue2004 — 2006-08-05 18:59:50Z

found on Simon and Mary Kratzman
1900 United States Federal Census > Indiana > Allen > Wayne > District 49
Name: Simon Kratzman
Home in 1900: Wayne, Allen, Indiana
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: sept 1846 (image says 1845)
Birthplace: Germany parents born GER
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Occupation: shoemaker
Immigration year: 1883
MARY 49 DEC 1850 GER GER GER
TONY SON DEC 1880 GER GER GER
FRANK SON DEC 1882 GER GER GER
MAY M DAU JUNE 1887INDIANA GER GER
KATIE S DAU APR 1891IND GER GER
LEO J SON MAR1896 IND GER GER

Fort Wayne Sentinel, The (Fort Wayne, Indiana) > 1897 > December > 14
SHOWS SIMON AS A COLLECTOR FOR ST MARTINS BENEVOLENT SOCIETY

Fort Wayne Sentinel, The (Fort Wayne, Indiana) > 1917 > November > 21
LISTS PROPERTY SALE GEORGE SCHAEFER TO SIMON KRATZMAN IN AMT OF $511.11

OneWorldTreeSM >
Simon Michael Kratzman(PARENTS:Michael Kratzman Martsine Kratzman)
Born: 14 Oct 1845
Posen, [county], [state], Germany
Died: 22 Nov 1927
Fort Wayne, Allen, IN, USA
Spouse 1 Marriage: 1875 in German, Poland
Mary Polcyn
Born: Nov 1851 in [city], [county], [state], Germany
Died: 17 May 1925 in Fort Wayne, Allen, IN, USA
CHILDREN
John Kratzman M 19 Nov 1877 in [city], [county], [state], Germany
Selma Kratzman F 13 Nov 1878 in [city], [county], [state], Germany
Anthony Jerome Kratzman M 23 Dec 1880 in Rogazm, [county], [state], Germany
Frank Kratzman M 25 Dec 1882 in Fort Wayne, Allen, IN, USA
Baby Leo Kratzman M Jun 1885 in Fort Wayne, Allen, IN, USA
Mary Catherine Kratzman F 24 Jan 1886 in Fort Wayne, Allen, IN, USA Edit
Katherine S Kratzman F 28 Apr 1891 in Fort Wayne, Allen, IN, USA
Leo Kratzman M 13 Mar 1896 in [city], [county], IN, USA
NOT RELATED OR RESEARCHING JUST TRYING TO HELP...GOOD LUCK

Re: World War I Alien Registration Cards

2005-10-25 01:17:38Z

Thanks. I was previously aware of your information from the Census and the World Tree. Per past discussion among my relatives there was disagreement regarding whether Simon Kratzman was German or Polish. The Alien Registration Card seems to indicate that he was German since his first name was signed as Siemon which is German for Simon and his signature appears to be German script. He spoke both German and Polish.

How to obtain copies of Enemy Alien Registration Affidavits

JanetLWood — 2005-09-15 16:46:34Z

Does anyone have any expericene in obtaining their ancestors file? I have all the information from NARA's website on my two ancestors who registered in Kansas. Just need to know how to go about obtaining the records and what all is involved....paperwork, cost, time frame, etc.

Thanks, Janet

choice given aliens

2005-07-10 22:46:42Z

when did the gov. give Italian aliens a choice to return to Italy to fight WW1? And did they pay their own passage $?

World War I Alien Registration Cards

jpasik — 2005-04-25 00:49:08Z

Simon Kratzman was registered as an alien enemy on February 20, 1918. He signed the Registration Card as
Siemon Kratzman.
His wife, Mary Polcyn was registered as an alien female on
July 15, 1918. Someone else signed the Registration Card for her.
I have both registration cards. They are my Great Grandparents.
My understanding is that Simon was German and Mary was Polish. Can anyone verify this?

Sample Alien Registration

2004-11-20 13:08:57Z

There is a sample of a WWI Enemy Alien Registration housed at this site:

http://www.rootdig.com/habben/

Kevin

Re: No record found wwI

2004-04-14 15:25:03Z

Thank you for that info. I'll check into writing to the naval station itself to see if there are any archives of past employees. By running a google search for the station should bring up their address etc. Thanks again for your input.

No record found wwI

2004-04-12 17:11:30Z

Re: Alien Registration question

2003-10-05 18:30:34Z

Hello Angela,
Only those who were citizens from countries at war with the United States during the First World War registered. Your grandfather, being a U.S. citizen, would not have been required to register. However, depending on his age, he might have registered for the WWI draft. For information on finding his draft record see...

How to Find World War One Draft Cards 1917-1918
http://www.genealogybranches.com/worldwaronedraftcards.html

Good luck with your search.

Regards,
Joe

Alien Registration question

2003-09-15 18:49:08Z

IMy grandfather became a citizen of the US in 1903. Would he have registered for any reason. Did any citizens have to register ?

Thanks
Angela

Online Arizona Alien Registration Records

2003-06-28 23:39:33Z

Hello All,
Here is a webpage with some Arizona Alien Registration Records...

Arizona World War One Alien Registration Affidavits 1918
http://germanroots.home.att.net/arizona.html

Good luck with your searches.

Regards,
Joe

Re: How do I find out if an ancestor was registered

2003-05-21 21:17:01Z

Thanks for the tip - I'll try that.

Re: How do I find out if an ancestor was registered

2003-05-21 02:27:00Z

There is no centralized database as far as I know. Best bet would be to write to the State Archive or Historical society for the state they resided in. I found my ancestors papers in the Oregon Historical society archives. Good luck to you

How do I find out if an ancestor was registered

2002-03-06 02:45:29Z

How do I find out if an ancestor was registered as an enemy alien. Is there a centralized or indexed source of information somewhere? Help.

WWI naturalization papers.

2000-10-13 07:16:51Z

My grandfather received his naturalization papers from the military camp that he was stationed. I did not have to look for it since my grandmother gave me the papers. However I did have to look up his father's paper you can write to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for records. I am sorry I tried to find where the address was on my paper and did not see it. You will need the place of birth, date of birth,name and location of naturalization which would be the place he was stationed at. I hope this helped you.

WW1 /Naturalization Papers

2000-09-02 22:59:17Z

I was Wonering if anyone knows how to find info on some one who was in WW 1 and because he enlisted in the war he he US he earned his naturalization papers?Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Susan