Army Service Corps WW1
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Re: Army Service Corps WW1
 JeffH01
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Posted: 1 Mar 2008 11:16PM GMT |
Classification: Query
I understand your concerns but things are often “shades of grey” in genealogy and your job is to separate fact from fiction as best you can with the information available. Keep a record and note what you have been told, your reservations, any “evidence”, searches & results and your conclusions. You can re-visit it if and when some new information or source comes to light.
The soldier on the medal card was a Private when he arrived in France [first qualified for a medal], but by the end of the war he had become a qualified Driver and as most of the ASC was horse transport this could mean “horse team driver” and it could explain the family “lore” about his being in the cavalry. I believe that viewing the actual medal card may prove my suspicions as the rank/trade may be aligned with the Medal Roll references and it’s possible there is other information on the card [or in the medal roll] of which ASC Company he served with.
Two things of note are: 1] searching the medal cards it looks like there is only one Moore listed from any regiment with such a “perfect” fit for name and initials; 2] searches of the medal cards for Joseph Moore and key word cavalry only returned one hit, a Lieutenant Joseph Michael John Moore of the Reserve Regiment of Cavalry, using the key word hussars revealed only 3 names, 2x Joseph T Moore and a Joseph Moore, the latter serving in the North Irish Horse, the key word Dragoons yielded only 2 names, a Joseph F Hertfordshire Yeomanry and a Joseph Inniskilling Dragoons and key word yeomanry gave 4 hits, a Joseph T and Joseph F, and two Josephs, one of the Suffolk Yeomanry, the other of East Ridings of Yorkshire Yeomanry.
If you can discount the Josephs from the Irish Cavalry and the Yeomanry Regiments [for the Yeomanry he would need to be resident in those places] then on a balance of probability I would say the ASC medal card you have is for Joseph Charles Ernest Moore, your grandfather.
You could try a search of the Freebmd database of GRO birth registrations for Joseph C, and see how many and where born, especially if any have 3rd initial, to see if the results support the probability or otherwise.
Other possible sources [without DoB] to help confirm the card is to see if he’s mentioned in the local newspaper of the time [he may have been wounded] or see if the 1918 Absent Voters’ List has survived for where he lived. If so it could give both his unit and service number. Have you asked if his medals are still held by the family? If so his unit and number are stamped on the rim.
Good luck
Jeff
The soldier on the medal card was a Private when he arrived in France [first qualified for a medal], but by the end of the war he had become a qualified Driver and as most of the ASC was horse transport this could mean “horse team driver” and it could explain the family “lore” about his being in the cavalry. I believe that viewing the actual medal card may prove my suspicions as the rank/trade may be aligned with the Medal Roll references and it’s possible there is other information on the card [or in the medal roll] of which ASC Company he served with.
Two things of note are: 1] searching the medal cards it looks like there is only one Moore listed from any regiment with such a “perfect” fit for name and initials; 2] searches of the medal cards for Joseph Moore and key word cavalry only returned one hit, a Lieutenant Joseph Michael John Moore of the Reserve Regiment of Cavalry, using the key word hussars revealed only 3 names, 2x Joseph T Moore and a Joseph Moore, the latter serving in the North Irish Horse, the key word Dragoons yielded only 2 names, a Joseph F Hertfordshire Yeomanry and a Joseph Inniskilling Dragoons and key word yeomanry gave 4 hits, a Joseph T and Joseph F, and two Josephs, one of the Suffolk Yeomanry, the other of East Ridings of Yorkshire Yeomanry.
If you can discount the Josephs from the Irish Cavalry and the Yeomanry Regiments [for the Yeomanry he would need to be resident in those places] then on a balance of probability I would say the ASC medal card you have is for Joseph Charles Ernest Moore, your grandfather.
You could try a search of the Freebmd database of GRO birth registrations for Joseph C, and see how many and where born, especially if any have 3rd initial, to see if the results support the probability or otherwise.
Other possible sources [without DoB] to help confirm the card is to see if he’s mentioned in the local newspaper of the time [he may have been wounded] or see if the 1918 Absent Voters’ List has survived for where he lived. If so it could give both his unit and service number. Have you asked if his medals are still held by the family? If so his unit and number are stamped on the rim.
Good luck
Jeff