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Re: anyone up for challege....pz

thinkpeople  (View posts) Posted: 3 Feb 2008 11:51AM GMT
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As you can see the DODD family and the Grant family lived in the same county, so maybe this is the parents of Bryant Dodd still living with their parents in 1880.
ANGI DODD age 25 could have been the father and JULIE GRANT age 14 could have been the mother.
Notice her sister is MARY GRANT age 11 so she could be the wife of AUGUSTA EVANS that took the children into their home in Arkansas.

I wonder if instead of the father dying, they divorced and she took her maiden name back. That happened back then just as it does today. Maybe she then couldn't afford to feed the children (how many single woman would have been able to back then) and she sent them to live with her sister.
Another thing you might want to consider is that maybe they never married and she kept her maiden name, but the children did have the fathers name. For some reason in the 1880's there seemed to have been quite a few of those situations. I have two of my family links that did that in the 1880's.

I would suggest you ask someone at the REGULAR Rootsweb State boards and the SURNAME boards to do a marriage lookup, divorce lookup, and a death lookup for JULIA GRANT or JULIA DODD.
Example:
Subject : Need marriage & divorce for Julia Grant or Julia Dodd 1885 to 1899 in Choteau Montana or North Dakota.

I have been doing genealogy for 20 years now and many times information that is passed down has been forgotten, added to, or remembered incorrectly. Names are misspelled, transposed or not remembered and dates are just forgotten.
Will we be able to remember all our grandparents and parents information in 20 or 30 years, and yet the information you are searching for is from over 100 years ago.
I heard all my life that my great grandmother was an Indian Princess, well that just didn't pan out. My great grandmother was at least half Indian and her picture show she has all the Indian features and the black hair, but only her mother was Indian and not her father. Some of the decendants have dark brown eyes but really only a couple of my daddys siblings looked like they had Indian blood in them, and only one of their sons looks Indian. The rest of us are just plain white folk!

Just a hint for you: Go to a Public Library that has access to the census (Ancestry) and check the auctual scanned census link that is provided there. Many, many transcriptions that are at that site and also many online transcribed census have mistakes, so I advise everyone to check the census for themselves. You want your genealogy to be as correct as possible, and especially if you are going to put any of it into print. The information at the LDS site is usually from someone putting their genealogy on that site and much of it is incorrect, so make sure you verify everything you see with written published records or census.

All the Capitals of the States have State Genealogy Records from the entire state in one building. Many land records, family Bibles, birth records, marriage records, divorce records, wills, death records, obits and much more are found in books and magazines and on microfilm there.

Many Public Librarys in different states have their own genealogy departments with records. (we have a large genealogy department at our Public Library in our town and our records are from all over the U.S. and we have a genealogist on staff)

Some courthouses do still have old records available for research.

You can check for "transcribed" records at the genweb sites and the genweb archives haave search engines for the entire U.S. (argenweb, mtgenweb, ndgenweb)



1880 Montana Census
Last Name First Name Age Page #Line # County Township
DODD ANGI 25 67B 86 Choteau Ft Assinniboine
DODD E. S. 50 67B 87 Choteau Ft Assinniboine
DODD S. G. 54 67B 88 Choteau Ft Assinniboine


1880 Montana, Choteau Ft. Assinniboine
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace

S. G. DODD Self M Male W 54 NJ Post Chaplin NJ NJ
E. S. DODD Wife M Female W 50 NY Keeping House MA MA
Angi DODD Son S Male W 25 MA Bookkeeper NJ NY
L. OGLE Other M Female W 28 NJ Cook NJ IRE
Mary E. OGLE Other S Female W 9M MT NJ NJ


1880 Montana Census
Last Name First Name Age Page# Lin # County Township

GRANT JAMES C. 44 61D 2392 Choteau Coal Banks
GRANT MARY 30 61D 2393 Choteau Coal Banks
GRANT JULIA 14 61D 2394 Choteau Coal Banks
GRANT MARY 11 61D 2395 Choteau Coal Banks
GRANT JAMES 9 61D 2396 Choteau Coal Banks
GRANT MAGGIE 6 61D 2397 Choteau Coal Banks
GRANT RICHARD 4 61D 2398 Choteau Coal Banks
GRANT JOHN 2 61D 2399 Choteau Coal Banks


1880 Montana, Choteau Coal Banks
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace

James C. GRANT Self M Male W 44 CAN Farmer CAN CAN
Mary GRANT Wife M Female NA 30 MT Keeps House CAN MT
Julia GRANT Dau S Female W 14 MT
At Home CAN MT
Mary GRANT Dau S Female W 11 MT
At Home CAN MT
James GRANT Son S Male W 9 MT CAN MT
Maggie GRANT Dau S Female W 6 MT CAN MT
Richard GRANT Son S Male W 4 MT CAN MT
John GRANT Son S Male W 2 MT CAN MT





1880 Montana Census
Last Name First Name Age Page# Lin # County Township

GRANT ISABELL 36 45D 1377 Choteau Fort Benton n/a
GRANT JOHN 35 46A 1431 Choteau Fort Benton n/a


GRANT WILLIAM 40 102C 84 Dawson District #9
GRANT GEORGE F. 30 103C 157 Dawson District #9
GRANT IMOGENE 27 103C 158 Dawson District #9
GRANT RUTH L. 10M 103C 160 Dawson District #9
GRANT MINNIE I. 4 103C 159 Dawson District #9

Grant Frederick 43 171B 1770 Deer Lodge New Chicago

Grant Henry 49 190C 3501 Deer Lodge First Chance & Bear

Grant James 20 362-A 27 Madison Silver Star (2) n/a
Grant Alex 29 364-A 17 Madison Sweetwater-Rock Creek n/a



1880 MONTANA CENSUS PG #333B
Flatt And Birdtail Creek And St. Peters Mission, Lewis And Clark, Montana
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
O. D. COOPER Self S Male W 28 IA Stock Grower PA PA
D. C. HOLBROOK Other S Male W 28 MI Stock Grower NY ENG
W. C. SWAIN Other S Male W 26 PA Clerk PA PA
S. DODD Other S Male W 21 IN Laborer IN IN
F. M. HARRIS Other S Male W 20 MO Laborer OH KY
C. W. COOPER Other S Male W 22 MO Laborer PA PA
T. A. BROOM Other S Male W 24 MO Laborer --- ---
Smiel SAROCK Other S Male W 26 CAN Laborer --- ---
Harry HORTAN Other S Male W 41 NY Laborer NY NY


1880 Montana Census
Last Name First Name Page # Line # County Township
JOHNSEN, William 257B 404 Jefferson BOULDER VALLEY & ELKHORN
Johnson Albert 6D 530 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
Johnson Alex 27A 980 Beaverhead Lion's City
JOHNSON ALEX C. 37D 555 Choteau Fort Benton
Johnson Andrew 17B 69 Beaverhead Big Hole
Johnson Anna 409C 1093 Meagher Oregan & adjoining Gulches
Johnson Anna 154C 115 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson Anna K. 356-D 23 Madison Harrison (2)
Johnson B.M. 177A 2287 Deer Lodge
JOHNSON BENJ. 34A 218 Choteau Fort Benton
Johnson Benjamin 402A 646 Meagher SMITH RIVER VALLEY
Johnson Capitola 391-C 44 Madison Virginia City
JOHNSON CELIA 68D 159 Choteau Ft Assinniboine
Johnson Charles 414A 1489 Meagher Missouri River Valley
Johnson Charles 162D 895 Deer Lodge
Johnson Charles 420C 1945 Meagher Wolf Creek and Yogo Gulch
Johnson Charles T. 424D 2199 Meagher Chestnut Valley
JOHNSON CHAS. E. 44A 1199 Choteau Fort Benton
JOHNSON CHAS. M. 318-A 4477 Lewis & Clark PRICKLY PEAR VALLEY JOHNSON CHRIS 329-A 5298A Lewis & Clark RED MOUNTAIN
JOHNSON CHRIS 330-C 5367 Lewis & Clark BLUE CLOUD & HOLTER MILL Johnson Christin 157B 458 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson Cornell C 8 Madison Salisbury
Johnson Daisy 403C 701 Meagher SMITH RIVER VALLEY
Johnson David 363-C 13 Madison Iron Rod
JOHNSON DAVID 318-A 4476 Lewis & Clark PRICKLY PEAR VALLEY
Johnson Dora 181A 2662 Deer Lodge
Johnson E.N. 349-A 1 Madison District 27
Johnson Earle 409C 1096 Meagher Oregan & adjoining Gulches
Johnson Edna 399C 474 Meagher WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS
Johnson Edna 403C 700 Meagher SMITH RIVER VALLEY
Johnson Edward 429D 2584 Meagher Judith Basin
Johnson Edward 155A 213 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson Edward 391-C 45 Madison Virginia City
JOHNSON ELBERT 42A 1041 Choteau Fort Benton
Johnson Elizabeth 6D 529 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
Johnson Elmer 387-D 49 Madison Virginia City
Johnson Emelia C. 356-D 24 Madison Harrison (2)
Johnson Fanne 181A 2672 Deer Lodge
Johnson Frank 169A 1553 Deer Lodge Flent Creek Valley
Johnson Frank 424C 2177 Meagher Chestnut Valley
Johnson Frank P. 420D 1982 Meagher Lower Arrow Creek Valley
Johnson Fred 409C 1095 Meagher Oregan & adjoining Gulches
Johnson Frederic 356-D 22 Madison Harrison (2)
JOHNSON G. L. 322-C 4763 Lewis & Clark SILVER CREEK & VIRGINIA CREEK Johnson Geo. T. 349-A 3 Madison District 27
Johnson George 380-A 2808 Madison Alder Gulch
Johnson George 154C 118 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson Grace 6D 531 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
JOHNSON H. 326-D 5119 Lewis & Clark WHIPPERWILL GLOSTER
Johnson H.A. 158D 559 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson H.E. 177A 2285 Deer Lodge
Johnson Hamilton 391-C 42 Madison Virginia City
Johnson Hannah 154C 114 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
JOHNSON HENRIETTA 38A 646 Choteau Fort Benton
JOHNSON HENRY 38A 645 Choteau Fort Benton
JOHNSON HENRY 311-A 3901 Lewis & Clark PRICKLY PEAR VALLEY
Johnson Henry 364-B 1397 Madison Beaverhead Valley
Johnson Henry 420C 1935 Meagher Wolf Creek and Yogo Gulch
Johnson Henry 347A 26 Madison District 27
Johnson Hiram 13A 1091 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
Johnson Hnery 7A 565 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
JOHNSON IDA 326-D 5121 Lewis & Clark WHIPPERWILL GLOSTER
Johnson Isaac 193A 3815 Deer Lodge Vestal
Johnson Isadora 159B 636 Deer Lodge Yam Hill
JOHNSON J. R. 318-A 4474 Lewis & Clark PRICKLY PEAR VALLEY
Johnson J.M. 177A 2288 Deer Lodge
Johnson J.W. 177A 2289 Deer Lodge
Johnson James 15A 1333 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
JOHNSON JAMES 48A 1608 Choteau Sun River
Johnson James 154C 116 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
JOHNSON JANE 44A 1200 Choteau Fort Benton
Johnson Jane A. 413D 1468 Meagher Missouri River Valley
JOHNSON JAS. 321-B 4743 Lewis & Clark TEN MILE, GREEN HORN & Silver Creek
JOHNSON JAS. E. 68D 160 Choteau Ft Assinniboine
JOHNSON JNO. G. 44B 1278 Choteau Fort Benton
Johnson Jno. H. 180D 2608 Deer Lodge
JOHNSON JOHN 47D 1590 Choteau Sun River
Johnson John 156C 306 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson John 356-D 20 Madison Harrison (2)
Johnson John 420D 1957 Meagher Wolf Creek and Yogo Gulch
Johnson John H. 22D #1 458 Beaverhead Glendale
Johnson Joseph 3B 251 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
Johnson Kitta M. 356-D 21 Madison Harrison (2)
Johnson Lancelot 158D 552 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson Lelia 409C 1094 Meagher Oregan & adjoining Gulches
JOHNSON LEWIS 42A 1035 Choteau Fort Benton
Johnson Lizzie 181A 2671 Deer Lodge
Johnson Lou 403C 699 Meagher SMITH RIVER VALLEY
JOHNSON LOUIS 35C 318 Choteau Fort Benton
JOHNSON MARY 44A 1201 Choteau Fort Benton
Johnson Mary 159B 634 Deer Lodge Yam Hill
Johnson Mary 420C 1946 Meagher Wolf Creek and Yogo Gulch
Johnson Mary Alice 413D 1469 Meagher Missouri River Valley
JOHNSON MARY M. 318-A 4475 Lewis & Clark PRICKLY PEAR VALLEY
Johnson Matt. 371-C 13 Madison Ruby Valley (3)
Johnson Minerva 391-C 43 Madison Virginia City
Johnson Minnie 420C 1947 Meagher Wolf Creek and Yogo Gulch
Johnson N.C. 177A 2290 Deer Lodge
JOHNSON NANCY 326-D 5120 Lewis & Clark WHIPPERWILL GLOSTER JOHNSON NETTIE M. 318-A 4478 Lewis & Clark PRICKLY PEAR VALLEY Johnson Nonce 356-D 25 Madison Harrison (2)
JOHNSON O. 309-A 3769 Lewis & Clark Unionville
Johnson O.A. 177A 2286 Deer Lodge
Johnson Oleson 175A 2098 Deer Lodge Upper Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson Otto 27B 997 Beaverhead Lion's City
Johnson Peter 154C 113 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
Johnson Philip 6D 528 Beaverhead Beaverhead River
Johnson Reuben 409C 1092 Meagher Oregan & adjoining Gulches
Johnson Reuben 378-A 18 Madison Ruby Valley (4)
Johnson Richard 159B 633 Deer Lodge Yam Hill
Johnson Rosa 181A 2673 Deer Lodge
Johnson Rufus 194D 3965 Deer Lodge Carbon Moore Little Blackfoot and SnowShoe Johnson Samuel 413D 1467 Meagher Missouri River Valley
Johnson Susan 349-A 2 Madison District 27
Johnson Thomas 403C 698 Meagher SMITH RIVER VALLEY
Johnson Tommie 403C 702 Meagher SMITH RIVER VALLEY
Johnson Viola 409C 1097 Meagher Oregan & adjoining Gulches
Johnson Walter 159B 637 Deer Lodge Yam Hill
Johnson Wesley 159B 635 Deer Lodge Yam Hill
Johnson Willie 154C 117 Deer Lodge Deer Lodge Valley
JOHNSON WM. 68D 161 Choteau Ft Assinniboine
JOHNSON WM. 318-A 4479 Lewis & Clark PRICKLY PEAR VALLEY
Johnson Wm. 427D 2405 Meagher Judith Basin
Johnson Wm. C. 177A 2284 Deer Lodge
JOHNSON WM. H. 68D 162 Choteau Ft Assinniboine
JOHNSON, Annie 260C 575 Jefferson
JOHNSON, C. 247A 986 Jefferson MITCHELL'S GULCH & VICINITY
JOHNSON, C. 238C 125 Jefferson VICINITY OF PARK,
JOHNSON, David 260C 576 Jefferson
JOHNSON, Della 259B 530 Jefferson
JOHNSON, E. M. 239B 263 Jefferson CATARACT & BASIN CREEKS
JOHNSON, Florence 239B 264 Jefferson CATARACT & BASIN CREEKS JOHNSON, Fredrick D. 259B 529 Jefferson
JOHNSON, H. 240C 322 Jefferson WICKES & VICINITY
JOHNSON, H. O. 239B 261 Jefferson CATARACT & BASIN CREEKS
JOHNSON, Isabella 259B 526 Jefferson
JOHNSON, J. 239B 292 Jefferson CATARACT & BASIN CREEKS
JOHNSON, J. S. 240D 349 Jefferson WICKES & VICINITY
JOHNSON, John 247B 1016 Jefferson VICINITY OF PRICKLEY PEAR
JOHNSON, John 259B 525 Jefferson
JOHNSON, John 260C 574 Jefferson
JOHNSON, Laura 264Dq 877 Jefferson ST. LOUIS & MOUNTAINS
JOHNSON, Lula 259B 528 Jefferson
JOHNSON, Martha 239B 262 Jefferson CATARACT & BASIN CREEKS
JOHNSON, Mary 260C 573 Jefferson
JOHNSON, Niels 260C 572 Jefferson
JOHNSON, Richard 264Dq 876 Jefferson ST. LOUIS & MOUNTAINS

1910 Emmons County, ND - 1910 Census Index
LastName FirstName Line# ImageFile#
DODD W. F. 38 045-11A
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nd/emmons/census/1910/045-...

McIntosh, ND 1910 Federal Census
Youngstown Township
263A 11 78 3A Grant George 36 Can(English) ed78
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nd/mcintosh/census/1910/78...



Stark County North Dakota 1900 Census
Enumeration District 163 (Dickinson)
Last Name First Name Line # Sheet #
DODD Edward 39 13A
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nd/stark/census/1900/163-1...
JOHNSON Andrew 50 30A
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nd/stark/census/1900/163-3...



CONRAD CEMETERY FLATHEAD COUNTY MONTANA
SURNAME GIVEN MO/DAY/YR
Dodd Annie 2.4.1975
Dodd Charles S 7.30.1943
Dodd Myra B 7.31.1931
Dodd Opha 3.26.1910

CONRAD CEMETERY FLATHEAD COUNTY MONTANA
SURNAME GIVEN MO/DAY/YR
Grant Alexander J 7.18.1939
Grant Allen R 2.12.1945
Grant Amelia 9.2.1924
Grant baby 5.30.1908
Grant Bertha 11.13.1973
Grant Charles E 4.24.1952
Grant Earnest A 11.23.1947
Grant Edward 9.12.1908
Grant Ellen M 9.11.1954
Grant Eva G 6.2.1932
Grant Fred 7.31.1968
Grant Henry Patrick 7.7.1956
Grant Infant 10.9.1945
Grant J J 12.2.1919
Grant John B 7.30.1939
Grant Laurita A 11.18.1947
Grant Leo M 4.9.1978
Grant Lillian G 10.9.1911
Grant Mabel D 8.30.1939
Grant Marie Louise 1.20.1973
Grant Mary J 5.9.1922
Grant Minnie B 2.25.1904

BETHEL CEMETERY, FLATHEAD COUNTY, MT
SURNAME GIVEN MO/DAY/YR
Dodd Pearl 8.3.1904
Dodd William S 1.10.1894
Grant Jenny 1.7.1906


By the way the death record information is always given by a relative or friend and they may not have known his mothers maiden name so someone could have guessed.


As for the WWI and WWII records there are many mistakes on them also. My ex-father-in-law is listed with the wrong birthyear and it says he was a teacher before going into service. Well he only went to 10th grade so that wasn't true. It also says he is married and has a child but he didn't have a child and I believe he was divorced at the time.
Was he a full-blooded card carrying, member of the tribe Indian? If not he could have listed himself white, or the person taking the information could have listed him that way.
Hope this will help you get started,
P.J.
SubjectAuthorDate Posted
riahills 25 Jan 2008 2:15PM GMT 
thinkpeople 3 Feb 2008 11:51AM GMT 
trailblaze 4 Feb 2008 12:33AM GMT 
mebateman1 14 Mar 2008 2:59AM GMT 
riahills 7 Jan 2009 7:56AM GMT 
   

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