Jesse James - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

James Gang in Southeast MO

gfann002 — 2009-11-08 22:16:06Z

My husband's g grandfather was Daniel T Cole from Bollinger County MO. His aunt told her boys that her grandfather (which would be Daniel T Cole, was good freinds with Jesse James. I suspect he was related. Problem is, I can't find the parents of Daniel T Cole. I know he was born in MO in 1830 and had 8 children on of which was my husbands grandmother Naomi Jane Cole Looney.

One of my employees tells me her husbands is related to Jesse James (on the James side). Her husband grew up in Bollinger County and he told her there is a cave in Millersville where the James Gang his out.

An aunt in law of my husband maiden name James claims to be related to Jesse James. She is from the Southeast MO area as well.

I really need to find the parents of Daniel T Cole from Bollinger County MO and would like to know if anyone else has heard of a connection with Southeast MO Bollinger COunty in particular and the James Gang.

During that period of time Bollinger County was a rough and tough place to be.

Sandra F

Re: JESSIE'S AUNT

roriecindy — 2009-11-08 20:22:12Z

Henderson Bullock is my great, great grandfather. He married Rachel James, daughter of Thomas James of Alabama. The myth that Henderson was married to Susan Lavenia James, is just that, a myth.

Re: Jesse James' cousins, the Nicely brothers

BernieBron — 2009-09-30 02:16:50Z

Thank you for your help. I was trying to connect the Nicely brothers to Jesse and his family to my aunt's family. Long before I read about the Nicely's famous crime in Somerset, I asked my aunt about her husband's family and she just said that they were notorious and from Somerset. She didn't elaborate and I only accidently stumbled on the story of the crime and trial of the Nicely brothers from Somerset. By then my aunt was deceased and I cannot be sure they are connected. I appreciate your input.

Re: Jesse James' cousins, the Nicely brothers

Jeannine_Stein — 2009-09-29 23:57:41Z

Sorry my tree was deleted so I can not show you the tree on Ancestry any longer, but they connected through Elizabeth Ferris which was Jesse James 5 Grandmother. Roland Nicely's wife Rowena Rowsey is how Elizabeth Ferris is connected to me. Rowland was my Great Grandfather. The Nicely brothers Joesph and David's mother was not related directly to the James family. In fact Elizabeth's last name was not even James at all like some have it on Ancestry.

Re: Jesse James' cousins, the Nicely brothers

BernieBron — 2009-09-29 20:31:20Z

Seeing how the James' and the Nicely's connected would be nice to see. My email is bronieckib@hotmail.com Thank you for your willingness to share.
Bernice

Re: Jesse James' cousins, the Nicely brothers

Jeannine_Stein — 2009-09-23 17:25:17Z

I have these Nicely Brothers in my tree connected to Jesse and Frank James if you want to see how they are related.
Surnames: Query
About ten years ago I read an article in a Somerset County(PA) paper about the 100 year anniversary of the hanging of two brothers whose last name was Nicely. The brothers had robbed a local farmer of a substantial (for that time) amount of money, but they were captured, tried and hung. Prior to the robbery, the article stated that both boys had spent the previous summer with their notorius cousin, Jesse James. Since I have relatives named Nicely who came from that area of PA, I wonder if anyone can validate Nicelys in the James' family tree. Thank you.

Re: Searching for any information on relatives of Jesse James.

k1rhea1 — 2009-09-20 18:25:26Z

Lisa, Jesse is one of my relatives so you can look at my family tree to see if any of your relatives match up. Good luck on figuring this out. Family history is very interesting.

Searching for any information on relatives of Jesse James.

lisanjames1 — 2009-09-07 11:38:49Z

My grandmother Lois Aline Baggett Mayo Edwards, Now deceased. Told me stories about how her mother Bertha James Baggett was a second cousin to Jesse James. My grandmother, born in Altha, Florida. Lived in Calhoun and Polk Counties all of her life. I would really like to know if I truly am a relative of Jesse James. Please contact me, thankyou.

Searching for anyone related to Gordon Mayo/Rufus Rudd

lisanjames1 — 2009-09-07 11:32:53Z

My grandfather Charles Gordon Mayo, born in Altha Florida, died some years ago. I never met him and I do not know much about our family tree. I know that he escaped from prison and went by the alias Rufus Rudd, and had a separate family. Anyone related to the Mayo family or the Rudd family that has any information to help me locate some long lost family please contact me. Thanks, Lisa Mayo Summerlin

Re: Who rode with Jesse James

LindaTaylorLaird1959 — 2009-08-31 20:46:16Z

I have 2 stories here. (1) My mother told me that my great grandfather is related to the James's, was told I am his 4th cousin. (2) My cousin did some research and found that our great grandfather rode with Jesse when he was a young man, he messed up a robbery and after that Jesse made my great grandad hold the getaway horses. So the story goes, my great grandad was known on one side of the river as Mr. White and on the other side Mr. Black. My great grandfathers name is Robert M. Black (if that's his real name). No one in the family will talk about that side of the family, so it's a brick wall to my cousin and I. Would love to know the truth about my great grandfather.

Also, Zerelda (Jesse and Franks mother) is either my great aunt or my great great aunt. Can't remeber off hand, lol.

Re: Zerelda Cole Jame's relatives in NWMO

tammybaldwin_1 — 2009-07-20 19:32:35Z

Zerelda Cole James' mother was Sarah "Sallie" Lindsay Cole, Born 04/15/1903.

Zee's mother was my Great-Grandmother's, Clara Lee Barnes Ragsdale Potts, First Cousin.

Re: Frank James Retirement

tinneridge — 2009-02-17 05:42:30Z

There is a Frank James Sr. buried in Richardson Cemetery Lawrence Co. Tn. Feb. 6, 1836 - June 22, 1915.Someone wrote article in a Lawrence Co. Tn. Book just out that Frank James married Martha C.C. White d/o D.H. & Milley J. White she was only 15 and took TB and died shortly after they married.They had a son Robert who died young.After Martha died he married Elizabeth Jane Williams d/o Wm. F. & Sarah C.McMasters Williams.Frank and Elizabeth married April 1, 1875 Lawrence Co. Tn.Was said that Frank lived in isolated section of Lawrence Co. at Flat Rock near Mockerson Creek. Also not far away just across the Al./Tn. in Lauderdale Co.Al. in the Bluewater Cem.is a grave with the name Jesse James Dec. 5, 1840 - Dec. 6, 1891.In another cem. in Lauderdale Co. Al. is Joshua James 1808 - Jan. 26, 1881 Hill Cem.h/o Esther James 1806 - July 11, 1881 Hill Cem. does anyone know of these people? Could this be the real James boys and had others to act as them while they lived here in peace?Some say that Jesse wasn't really killed by his cousin that it was staged.????? I was told by my great aunt who is in abt. 90 years now,that her grandfather who lived in Prospect Tn. He said we were related to the James boys.I have found no proof of this but her grand father was Raymond Newton"NEWT"Brown who married Lizzie Barnes.Newt told her as a child that the James gang spent the night in his or his fathers barn in Prospect Tn. near Elkmont Al.Have no way of proving any of this except my Aunt is still living and she remembers this being told to her as a child.All these places/towns are not very far apart by way the crow flys.The James robbed the Muscle Shoals mail carrier and rode toward Tn. which would more than likely been Savannah Tn. or Lawrence Co. Tn.Also was told by other relatives that one of the James boys rode up to their house in Limestone Co. Al. a few miles from Lauderdale Co. AL. and asked for a dipper of water.He drank water at the well and rode off without any problems.No proof except by word of mouth.It seems that it is possible since all these places are all connected.

Re: Cherokee rides with jessie james

clemonsb_1 — 2009-01-25 05:00:10Z

i'm researching any links between my ggrfather william aaron clemons and any outlaws from 1860 to 1870. one of his daughters was named annie born in beaudry arkansas

Re: Jesse James and Indiana

dfwoods1 — 2008-12-27 20:29:48Z

This may or may not be relevant. My Mother's father lived in Terre Haute back in the 1870s or thereabouts. She loved to tell the story about her father and his brother running away from home. As family legend has it, they stopped at a farmhouse somewhere along the Wabash (she thought) for water. The woman who was home told them they could have some, but to "Hurry up because the James boys are on their way back." They, in her words, "skedaddled out of there". She always thought the woman was Frank's and Jesse's sister Susan, but that was never confirmed and I could never find any indication she even lived anywhere but in Missouri.

The story may be true, but the woman may have been another relative or no relative at all. I've always been curious.

Re: Jesse JAMES - shot 3 April 1882 - St. Joseph, MO

dlestrich — 2008-10-11 00:07:59Z

Hello Bev James kelley:

I would love a copy of Jesse at 8o and the one with you and your grandmother, if you are able. My last name is Blackbird and on one side of our family, they are related to him (cousins- he probably had quite a few!).

These would be wonderful to see. Thank you kindly for sharing them.
Susan leffingwell (Blackbird)
cityscape123@yahoo.com

Re: Jesse James

dlestrich — 2008-10-10 23:55:32Z

Hello Bev James:

Wow- I'd like to see that!

Thank you, Susan

cityscape123@yahoo.com

The FBI file on Jesse James - FYI

jjj986 — 2008-09-16 01:46:12Z

Just came across this & thought I would post the link for anyone that is interested in Jesse James. There are 4 parts to these files & they include all kinds of federal documents & information regarding Jesse James, handwritten letters & pictures & newspaper articles - loads of pages. Please let me know if you can't access the link below at wmj986@comcast.net.

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/jessejames.htm

Thanks,

Wendie :o)

Re: Creed Chapman

acadianjosh — 2008-07-11 05:56:04Z

I would like to know more about Creed Chapman...namely...the names of his children if possible.

Jesse James

2006-12-04 22:20:11Z

The most famous picture of Jesse was taken in Nebraska City, Nebraska. His wife said he was in Nebraska before his suppose death. It only make sense he is buried in Nebraska after dying from a natural death at the age of 95.

Re: Jesse James

2006-11-08 22:53:13Z

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Re: Jesse James

2006-11-08 22:53:13Z

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Re: Jesse James

2006-11-08 22:52:25Z

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Re: Jesse James

2006-11-07 20:31:27Z

Lantern jaw is where the jawsticks out in a round shape and the other side is straight. my email address is charliesquaw@aol.com

Re: Jesse James

2006-11-07 20:14:56Z

What is a lantern jaw?
Carol

Gentry's and Jesse and Frank James related?

2006-11-07 19:24:26Z

Piney Gentry MEARS, Caroll Co, MO

Is there a connection

Regards

Re: John James Estate Settlement-more documents

2006-11-07 17:21:40Z

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Re: John James Estate Settlement-more documents

2006-11-07 17:16:18Z

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Re: Who rode with Jesse James

krogers46 — 2007-11-17 20:41:49Z

JUST WONDERING WHAT PART OF KENTUCKY?? AS MY ROGERS WERE FROM THERE . ALSO HAVE MORE ? OR INFO ON MY MATERNAL SIDE FROM WHEN THEY LIVED IN MO. THANKS KRISTA

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

mbmjlm — 2007-04-21 04:55:53Z

I just nailed down my husband's relationship to Jesse and Frank James a couple of weeks ago. He is a 5th great grandson of Drury Mims who was Shadrach Mim's brother.

I have a distant relationship through the Mims family as well but it is indirect. My great grandfather's brother Richard Insall married Caroline Mims whose father was William M. Mims. Caroline's family also traces back to Shadrach Mims.

Jesse James and Indiana

mspac2079 — 2006-11-12 04:13:03Z

Does anyone have any information on the traveling of Jesse James in the State of Indiana.

My family, Briles, says that my great, great, great-grandfather's hid out with him. They said one of his hideouts was somewhere down on Blue River in what is know Crawford/Harrison County State Forestry. Then it was Scott Township, Harrison County.

Any information would be greatly appreciated! You know how everyone claims to be related to, or hung out with him.

Thanks,
Ashlee

Payne Jones

rnrh_1 — 2007-01-16 23:02:04Z

Jessie James Kin?

ClydeneWCannon — 2007-07-21 15:24:22Z

While visiting some James Family in Bryan Co., OK about 15 years ago we got on the discussion of Jessie James, the outlaw. I asked if any of them knew him and they said their grandfather had known him. I asked if when he came into the Indian Territory how the people greeted him - friend or foe? They said he brought money in and was a generous and considerate man when he visited (hid out) there. I asked them where he stayed when there. Mr.James replied that he and his man stayed in a cave and he showed me where it was. Both my father and mother's family are from that area. On my mohter's side, S. James from MO married her great aunt and was part Choctaw or Cherokee. Later, I found a newspaper article written about Jessie James that verified that he indeed did stay in what is now Bryan Co., OK so their account is probably accurate. In that article, it was mentioned that the Choctaw treasurer feared that Jessie James was going to rob him of the gold allotment money he held for the tribe. He asked the local minister to keep the money for him which he did. The James gang rode up to the ministers house one day and asked to partake in supper with them. One of his gang asked the minister if he had any money to give them. When the minister said he had no money his son replied "What about the money buried in the chicken yard?" The gang member got rough with the small son when Jessie stepped in and made him leave telling him, "We don't take pennies from preachers." The joke was on Jessie as the minister had buried thousands of dollars of gold in the chicken yard but Jessie showed his campasion to the man of the cloth and his family. The gang rode away with no harm was done and no momey. Whether my James Family is related to Jessie or not, I don't know. Maybe they just share the same name but the cave Jessie stayed in was on their allotment land. Clydene

Re: Jesse James

lma79 — 2006-11-08 22:36:32Z

Hi,
Her father was Joel L James. She married either a pruit or privette. don't know which one.
my email is lma79@yahoo.com
looking forward to the picture.
Thanks
Lisa

Re: Jesse James

lma79 — 2006-11-08 22:36:05Z

Hi,
Her father was Joel L James. She married either a pruit or privette. don't know which one.
my email is lma79@yahoo.com
looking forward to the picture.
Thanks
Lisa

Re: Who rode with Jesse James

nancyapenn — 2008-04-03 02:25:31Z

There's an interesting article on Alexander Doniphan Pence and his brother Bud Pence (Article is titled "They rode with the James Brother"). It's on the website of Richard Pence - www.pipeline.com

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

viofam09 — 2007-01-06 18:15:42Z

Thank you for posting the will and other information.
Elizabeth Woodson Mimms was my 4th great grandmother.
My grandmother was Nellie Lilburn Herndon of Logan Co, KY.
Gary Violette
Clarksville, TN

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

viofam09 — 2007-01-10 01:33:22Z

Children of John Britt Herndon and Louisa Ann Hodges (cont'd)
Harriet Elizabeth Palmer Herndon b Jun 1829
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John Britt Herndon also married 28 Aug 1831 Logan Co KY Barsha Ann Browning b abt 1811 KY d 1833.
Their children included:
James Abner Herndon 1832
Joseph T. Herndon abt 1838
Virginia Herndon abt 1839
Ann M. Herndon abt 1841
Mary J. Herndon abt 1848

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

viofam09 — 2007-01-10 01:18:11Z

I do not have a lot of information about this couple:
Husband: John Britt Herndon b 09 Apr 1804 Goochland Co VA d 25 Oct 1875 Logan Co KY
Wife: Louia Ann Hodges b VA d May 1831
Children:
James Herndon b 19 Dec 1824
Thomas W. Herndon b 1825 KY
John Bunyon Herndon b 01 Jan 1827

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

viofam09 — 2007-01-07 01:56:25Z

This one shows the abbreviated spelling;
is it the same individual?

http://www.kevinmcreynolds.com/Holbrook/Autobiography%20of%2...

Battle of Crooked River
25 October 1838

[William] Seeley, one of the young men they took prisoner at Brother Pinkham's the evening before, was shot through the shoulder and one Lilburn Hodges was shot in the hip and one Eli Chase was shot in the knee with a number more slightly wounded.

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

viofam09 — 2007-01-07 01:50:57Z

This links to a Lilbourn Hodges mention in the HODGES list:

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/HODGES/2001-07/09953083...

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

viofam09 — 2007-01-06 21:11:56Z

I have no information on Lilbourn Hodges, other than I have seen his name spelled "Lilburn".

This is the way my grandmother spelled her middle name as well as her son's and grandson's.

Do you happen to know where the name originates in this family?

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

deesosa — 2007-03-01 00:22:51Z

-JESSIE JAMES WAS ROBERT JAMES SON, WHO WAS MOLLY POOR SON WAS HER DAUGHTER - ELIZABETH WOODSON MIMMS- HER FATHER WAS SHADRACK MIMMS AND HER MOM WAS ELIZABETH WOODSON. WHOSE DAD WAS ROBERT WOODSON SR. AND HIS DAD WAS BENJAMIN WOODSON SR AND THEN ROBERT WOODSON HIS DAD, THEN HIS DAD WAS DR JOHN WOODSON WIFE SARAH FROM ENGLAND WHO CAME OVER IN 1619 THAT IS MY 10TH GREAT GRANDPA. (WHO IS BY THE WAY JESSIE JAMES'S 6TH GREAT GRANDPA TOO!)

Re: James cousins

FayeWatkins27 — 2007-04-25 10:34:02Z

Linda, in your James research records do you have a Ruth James born about 1825 married John Bishop. Ruth is my g-g- grandmother .I cannot find any info. on her family. Ruth and John Bishop are on the 1850 Scott Co. VA Census.Then on the1870 Estill Co. KY Census. Thanks, Olga

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

twoehrle — 2007-01-25 19:14:50Z

This is my post. Since they have changed the format for Rootsweb I don't know why it comes up Author Anonymous .

Judy
Twoehrle@worldnet.att.net

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

twoehrle — 2007-01-06 19:33:47Z

Gary,

Thanks for posting. I am not related to Elizabeth, I'm only doing research on Frank and Jesse's ancestors. Do you have any idea what happened to Elizabeths son Lilbourn Hodges?
Thank you, Judy

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

twoehrle — 2007-01-10 00:59:12Z

I had seen this a while back and thought maybe it could have been Lilbourn. If I remember right this happened in Missouri 1838. If his mother(Elizabeth) died in 1834 and Drury Poor contested her will, Lilbourn may have gotten disgusted and left Logan County.

Was Elizabeths daughter that married Herndon named Louisa? I thought I had seen that on a rootsweb tree.

Thanks,
Judy

Re: Elizabeth Hodges G-Grandmother of Frank & Jesse

twoehrle — 2007-01-10 00:53:17Z

I thought I had seen the name of Lilbourn in the Mims family, but I tried to find where and couldn't locate it. I'll keep looking.

Was Bill Chadwell orginally William Bill Chadwick in the James Gang?

RoyChadwick77 — 2006-11-23 16:34:30Z

Looking for anyone who may know where Bill Chadwell from the James Gang came from( IE) what state,and parents?
Was he brn in GA or TN?,and was his real name William(Bill)
Chadwick?.
Roy Chadwick.

my gg grandMOTHER rode with Jesse James

brandibryant25 — 2007-03-21 20:37:26Z

Hello

I have been told by my grandmother and father that my great great grandmother was a female outlaw and at one time rode with Jessie James and his gang. The judge pardoned her and she *tamed* down.. Her son Married a woman named Jessie Jane as well who was named for Jessie James. Her name was Fannie Eppes Byars and her son was James Ollie, and his wife was Jessie Jane Aydelott Byars. My Dad said he saw the story about Fannie on a special on the History channel about the James Gang. I am looking to see if anyone knows anything about her, I cant find her name on any list, and want to know if anyone knows the name of this special that aired on THC or knows how I can look up this information.
Thanks!
Brandi

Re: Who rode with Jesse James

purplemonkeypyro — 2007-11-15 01:26:42Z

That is kind of wierd my name is James Rodgers, I am from canada. I don't know if I am any relation to the Jesse James of day gone by but it would be cool to find out