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Re: French = Southern European?

karlsiska — 2013-05-23 15:25:24Z

southern French people are actually genetically the same as Spanish people. this is maybe why a lot of you are showing up with so much southern european

Re: Where might the Finnish/Volga-Ural DNA portion come from?

genxr03 — 2013-05-23 14:10:56Z

Thanks for clarifying this. I had the same results in mine and I know for a fact that Native American is in my genetic DNA. I found Chippewa as well as Cherokee just to name a few in my ancestry line. And like you I had no findings of Finnish nor Asian lineage in my ancestry line.

Re: DNA Testing question

Iris2011 — 2013-05-23 12:56:55Z

Hi

Yes that is true,thanks. However it has remained fairly untained for many generations. Even my primary sources are correct, yet my ancestor was illiterate. Only one doc used a different spelling x for f and given the bad handwriting encounted this is fairly good. Most of the errors are in transcripts. I had to correct the online census last time I was on here in Feb. I had a copy of the original census for over 25 yrs directly from GRO. The new transcripts were outrageous. We know to look at the common errors s for f but would never have found these in a million years.

Having said that I have a lot of trouble when using the name to support services and have to spell it out a dozen times. My cousins say the same. So it is more remarkable that my illiterate ancestor's records have been correct and it is not that I have missed other spellings as no need to look at alternative spellings although I do. A reminder that I must not get complacent.
Cheers

Re: DNA Testing question

MJ782 — 2013-05-23 12:56:26Z

One thing to keep in mind is that your surname may have changed spelling at some point. My 3rd great grandfather changed his name from Rydstrom to Ristrim when he arrived in America. No one knows why but he has a large well researched family back in Sweden. If I were to Y-DNA test a Ristrim male I expect we would find matches to Rydstroms, and Carlsson and...

Keep this in mind and look closely at any 35/37 or closer match.

Re: DNA Testing question

Iris2011 — 2013-05-23 04:05:19Z

Hi Michael

Wellllll l it is fairly uncommon but not rare. That is an exaggeration. The name is Bufton. It has spread throughout the USA with clusters in Wales and the borders. However in Western Australia only my male 1st cousins and their families carry down the name. I meant rare insofar as it would not attract a project unless all those Buftons out there want to join me???? I believe there is a line in Melbourne AU (and other states) and two different lines in NZ. There is only one person registered in the DNA database but I am going to give all the info to other lines I have contacted over the years and see if we can open a project for an ancestry.com test. I have to ask my cousin first! Given that our line comes from convict stock (as do some others in Australia, but don’t appear to be many left) maybe people would not be interested. Also I don’t think there will be any surprises as to our origins. I have been researching for 30 years and still struggling to finish writing my book. I need to let go of the research and concentrate on writing, but some interesting facts have needed following up. You all know that syndrome.I am very pedantic.

That is just for the benefit of other Buftons. Thanks for giving me a platform!! I just join ancestry from time to time to find relatives. My research is mainly through primary sources.
Cheers

Re: DNA Testing question

dmichaelelkins — 2013-05-23 03:21:15Z

Wow, now you've got my curiousity up about this apparently rare surname. What is it?

Re: Waiting Thread - April and May 2013

BarbaraTaylor7777 — 2013-05-22 22:56:02Z

Ordered 3rd test 5/10/2013; it shipped 5/13/2013.
Mailed back 5/17/2013 or 5/18/2013.
Received acknowledgement of receipt at Ancestry.com 5/22/2013.

Barbara

Re: DNA search ability

cecemoore — 2013-05-22 20:15:34Z

You never know, Deanna. You could be right and they will do some more unannounced testing. I wouldn't be overly surprised if that were the case.

Re: DNA search ability

Deeanna9171 — 2013-05-22 20:06:33Z

Thanks, both of you - I did read CeCe's post this morning - but I'm hoping it might show up some more - they won't announce it any more than they did the first time, of course.

Re: DNA search ability

McCorkleAustin — 2013-05-22 19:54:54Z

Nope, they took it back offline for now. See CeCe Moore's blog post referenced earlier for more information.

David Mc

Re: DNA search ability

KKoshida — 2013-05-22 19:54:07Z

Did you see this post from CeCe from earlier today?

A summary and some new info: http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2013/05/sneak-preview-...

Re: DNA search ability

Deeanna9171 — 2013-05-22 19:46:06Z

Has anyone had access to the search today? In any browser? After using it for about an hour yesterday, I'm already spoiled - just don't want to do much with my matches until I get that search back!

Re: DNA search ability

McCorkleAustin — 2013-05-22 15:22:19Z

I think the real answer was my earlier (a) with a little bit of (b) thrown in. In other words, they were rolling it out to only a few (a) as confirmed by Ce Ce (thanks!) which explains the people who never saw it, while at the same time some of those selected had (b) browser compaitbility issues causing some of the strange behavior reported.

I suggest people who had it use the Feedback button to report any issues in how it worked, or didn't.

David Mc

Re: Waiting Thread - April and May 2013

DPotts57 — 2013-05-22 14:03:16Z

"I hope I match your mom, Dennis! I guess NOT matching her is just as informative though. :)"

There's a good chance that you will show some sort of match with her. You and I match on a segment of chr 2 but my cousin Guy doesn't share anything on that chromosome with me.

We'll see in a few weeks.

Re: DNA Testing question

Iris2011 — 2013-05-22 12:41:00Z

Hi

I just checked out both those sites. Familytree DNA has one name registered and the same for Guild of one name studies.
Someone has to start it. I guess if we can get a lot of apparently unrelated people to do the study we may come up with some common markers.
Thanks for clariying the type of test I will need to look for.

Re: DNA search ability

oma2004 — 2013-05-22 12:33:21Z

thank you CeCe.

Re: Waiting Thread - April and May 2013

DPotts57 — 2013-05-22 12:10:30Z

Arrived and drooled in 5.21.13
Mailed 5.22.13

Re: DNA search ability

DPotts57 — 2013-05-22 12:01:13Z

CeCe,

Thanks for the update. It's more or less what we were assuming and as usual absolutely no credit goes to Ancestry for keeping it's user base informed.

Re: DNA search ability

sherburl — 2013-05-22 11:54:18Z

Thank you, CeCe!

Re: "We put it in the wild for a small, random portion of AncestryDNA customers to get a sense of how it is working."

It's interesting that a number of the regular posters here happened to be among the "small random portion".

I hope you lucky ones copied the lists of surnames from your matches' private trees because I suspect that feature won't be present when they roll it out officially.

Lou

Re: DNA search ability

kcronin199 — 2013-05-22 11:50:28Z

This explains matters. I was installing Jeff's extension when the Ancestry boxes showed up. I could figure out why I couldn't get it to work.

Re: DNA search ability

cecemoore — 2013-05-22 09:34:53Z

A summary and some new info: http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2013/05/sneak-preview-...

Re: different results with retest?

mossgarden1 — 2013-05-22 08:20:05Z

Just because you are a R1b1b2a1a2f2 doesn't mean that you are Irish. That just happens to be one of the most common haplogroups in Ireland, but that doesn't mean it doesn't occur other places. IMO, if you know you're Irish then this haplogroup confirms it, if you aren't Irish, then it means nothing.

Re: DNA Testing question

Iris2011 — 2013-05-22 02:02:09Z

Hi thanks for that . I got a message to say that this message was rejected. Anyway thanks for that. No I was in touch were a researcher in England and our name has not been done.I will check this out.

The message from jbarry6899 was deleted by ancestry. Trying to contact but email dissapears after first sentence. So something wrong with the board.
many thanks

Re: DNA Testing question

MJ782 — 2013-05-22 01:48:10Z

If you are testing a specific male line, your father, his father, his father... or have a direct male descendant of a male line to test, you are talking about Y-DNA. FamilyTreeDNA has the largest Y-DNA database. Your best bet is to join a surname project for the surname in question. You get a discount on the cost of the test, and help from the administrator. Another possibility is a Guild of One Name Studies. They sometimes have Y-DNA projects as well and are predominantly British.

Also the minimum test to expect accurate results is 37 markers.

Re: DNA search ability

KKoshida — 2013-05-22 01:29:09Z

Alas, it is a moot point as my search boxes have evaporated.

However, I have the Jeff extension and will use your advice in doing my search there.

Re: DNA search ability

MartheLawton — 2013-05-22 00:39:29Z

Yep! Gone bye bye. :/

Re: Ancestry DNA Results BARRY

Timgray43 — 2013-05-21 19:30:28Z

I haven't gotten my results back yet but DNA tests go back as far as 50,000 years. I've done a lot of research on my family and 95% come from Britain directly, I do know one side of the family comes from France that moved to Britain over 1,000 years ago and 250 years ago, they came to the US. I'm guessing it will pin point that region. However, you have to remember, what this pinpoints is based on your DNA, not necessarily where your ancestors came from, meaning, your DNA markers will show where that DNA is mostly from around the world. It all depends on how far back the DNA looks. If your Haplogroup is G, in other words, most of your family could have lived in France for 1,000 years but your DNA markers show you came from Iran, for example, which is where it comes from. Your features may be different now because of the mothers DNA mixed in with it but Paternal DNA would show that is where your DNA originates, not necessarily where they lived. Your blood can't tell you if your grandpa lived in Britain or Spain, just where that mutation of bloord group started at. Again, it all goes back to how far they go back. If you take a DNA of yourself and your father, your Y DNA will match exactly. However, the further back you go it changes, which take you back to it's origin. Enough markers will link you to someone 300 years ago.

I would also mention, the R1B1A2 wouldn't separate you from Britain or France as that is the area this would come from. If you have that but all your family came from Australia for example, the test will say Britain/France as areas you most likely come from. I'm surprised it distinguishes France and Britain, to be honest. That's a tight pattern.

Re: Interpreting DNA Matches

DPotts57 — 2013-05-21 16:49:46Z

Ancestry doesn't feel the need to inform their members of new features. I guess they figure that since genealogy is a hunt anyway we're all good at ferreting out new features on the site. and yes I'm being sarcastic.

If you step back one level in the forums to http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.dnaresearch/mb.ashx you'll see a forum about the atDNA results as well as one for what is jokingly referred to as their "ethnicity results". The members who participate in those forums generally keep each other informed about new things we discover on the site as well as things like GEDmatch which fortunately are out there to fill the voids that Ancestry can't seem to fill. There are a lot of interesting threads on both forums.

Be sure to post your GEDmatch kit# to the appropriate thread so others can see if you're related. you'd be surprised at how many of us are even if the relationship is somewhat tenuous.

Re: Interpreting DNA Matches

buszidog311 — 2013-05-21 16:28:52Z

OK, I went to Gedmatch and they gave me instructions to download my raw data from Ancestry!!!!!?????
Why didn't I know that Ancestry offers us our raw data now? Could they have included that in one of their "Exciting New Matches" emails? I'm on their site every day, I never saw any announcement. How long has this been available?

This is from Gedmatch:
1. Log in to your Ancestry.Com account
2. From the Ancestry DNA status page, click the link 'manage test settings'.
3. On the 'manage test settings' page, click the 'Get started' button on the right under 'Download your raw DNA data'.

I did all that and now I'm waiting for them to fully process my file, about 72 hours.

THANK YOU DPotts57, if you hadn't suggested Gedmatch, I never would have known.

Do you know of any other spreadsheets or programs that can utilize the Ancestry raw data besides Gedmatch?

I really have to come out of my cave more often...

Again, Thank you thank you thank you!

Re: Interpreting DNA Matches

buszidog311 — 2013-05-21 15:09:30Z

Thanks, I'll try that!

Re: DNA search ability

McCorkleAustin — 2013-05-21 14:56:04Z

The best way around that is to open the match in a new tab/window (right click on it). That way the page/tab with your original search results doesn't go away.

David Mc

Re: DNA search ability

KKoshida — 2013-05-21 14:45:29Z

It's still working fine for me but it's annoying that it doesn't remember your last search. If I put a name in, click a tree and view the match, I have to start a new search instead of seeing the rest of the matches with that surname/location. A rather minor annoyance but if you are looking at a lot of matches, it gets tiresome.

Re: DNA search ability

McCorkleAustin — 2013-05-21 14:43:19Z

The problem is we don't know if this inconsistency is due to them doing a phased rollout (i.e. a few at a time) or differences in browsers that they have not addressed yet (see my prior message on that). Therefore, all I and those who have it working can do is tell you what we've noticed, and it may or may not apply to your specific situation.

The good news is that it works for those of us who have it, which means this is way beyond the experimental stage and should be working for everyone soon.

David Mc

Re: DNA search ability

sherburl — 2013-05-21 14:21:13Z

@ifrench197 Re: "I have tried all of the above suggestions and it doesn't work for me. :("

Same here. And using the IE tab on Chrome gives me the same results as Compatibility View on IE: My matches all disappear and I get a nonfunctional search box. :(

Re: Interpreting DNA Matches

DPotts57 — 2013-05-21 14:11:47Z

Upload your raw data to GEDmatch. The people who have gone to the trouble to upload their data are generally more responsive to emails and probably have more of a tree to check out than all the adoptees and oh so special private tree people on Ancestry.

Re: Interpreting DNA Matches

buszidog311 — 2013-05-21 13:46:14Z

Great news!
AncestryDNA has 78 new DNA member matches for you!
Whether it's a 1st cousin or 5th cousin, new DNA matches can be exciting leads!

These are Ancestry's TOP 14 "matches" for me, so typical of what I get with every new "EXCITING" email:

Confidence: Moderate:
No family tree, Last logged in Dec 9, 2012
No family tree, Last logged in Apr 19, 2013
No family tree, Last logged in Apr 26, 2013
Confidence: Low:
2 people, Last logged in May 6, 2013
369 people (all from Mexico)
4 people, Last logged in Jan 15, 2013
Confidence: Very Low:
No family tree, Last logged in Mar 31, 2012
No family tree, Last logged in Apr 26, 2013
1789 people, PRIVATE
No family tree, Last logged in today
No family tree, Last logged in Jan 15, 2013
4 people, Last logged in Sep 3, 2012
3 people, Last logged in Jul 13, 2011
No family tree, Last logged in Apr 21, 2013

This is what you call exciting?? I bet you enjoy watching paint dry too.
I guess most of them paid for and took the test by accident? (by force? they just enjoy spitting in tubes? They're ALL adopted?)
And they actually log in to......um....why?
I know my family is a few sandwiches short of a picnic, and the AncestryDNA test proves it.

Re: DNA search ability

CKlym — 2013-05-21 13:10:23Z

It is now appearing for me only in starred (did work in "all" last night)

Re: Waiting Thread - April and May 2013

sherburl — 2013-05-21 12:47:53Z

I hope I match your mom, Dennis! I guess NOT matching her is just as informative though. :)

Lou

Re: Waiting Thread - April and May 2013

voodoochil3 — 2013-05-21 12:17:23Z

So I got an email telling me my sample was received today and is now processing. Guess that answers my question!

DNA Testing question

Iris2011 — 2013-05-21 09:14:21Z

Can anyone name the best DNA testing service for ancesty ties - anglo saxon. I would want to check the number of people registered for a specific name. It is for a male line.
Thank you

Re: DNA search ability

oma2004 — 2013-05-21 06:44:51Z

@Dsvid,
I am using IE 8.0.6001.18702 and am unable to see the new filters. I wonder what is wrong? Is there another click I need to make somewhere in IE? I read all the messages in the last 12 hours but see nothing that seems to apply to me.

thank you for all your help on this issue.
Curry
PS, I did set to "Has a Hint" as well as "All" and no filters appear.

Re: DNA search ability

EnchantedWikiRoom — 2013-05-21 04:32:33Z

I can also add that it searches match trees that aren't linked to DNA results.

Hrm.

Re: DNA search ability

ifrench197 — 2013-05-21 03:35:33Z

I have tried all of the above suggestions and it doesn't work for me. :(

Re: DNA Testing

eGENEee — 2013-05-21 03:21:34Z

Something's suspicious to me! Nothing is FREE. Somebody pays for it!

Re: DNA Testing

BarbaraTaylor7777 — 2013-05-21 03:06:11Z

They've been posting on Craigslist also with very little information - almost looks like spam. :)
Barbara

Re: DNA search ability

BarbaraTaylor7777 — 2013-05-21 03:00:33Z

I'm right there with you - we should be a chorus :)
I scrolled my list of removed matches and found 2 new green hint leafs today.

Barbara

Re: DNA search ability

EnchantedWikiRoom — 2013-05-21 02:34:43Z

Ugh - looks like removed matches are NOT searched?

I had a search that only yielded two results. One was private. I trashed the private match and tried the same search again. Only one result came up - the public one.

Those of us who have been removing private/no tree matches just for the sake of sanity when organizing can now make a raspberry noise...

Re: DNA search ability

BarbaraTaylor7777 — 2013-05-21 01:38:03Z

I'm seeing it now in IE9 on all filters (All, Has a Hint, Starred, Not viewed), but I have to REFRESH the screen AFTER selecting the top filter.
I'm not sure how useful it is as yet. I tried searching for a couple surnames and it gives me a list but the surname I'm looking for is NOT in the matched surnames nor is it in the person's full tree. I tried with the "similar names" option and that was useless.
Tried without that "similar names" option and got one match to a private tree...so sent them a message to see if there is really anything useful there.

Barbara

Re: DNA search ability

DougCorbin51 — 2013-05-21 00:57:53Z

I just added the IE Tab extension to my Chrome and the search is appearing when I use that app. I didn't have to change anything with its settings, but you can adjust the properties to use older versions of IE.

Re: DNA search ability

jcsaxx — 2013-05-21 00:54:29Z

That is awesome news. I just went to IE and sure enough, it is there. As others have said, its not working yet. Great hope now.