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Extension Hotel, North Ormesby Road, Middlesbrough 1930's

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Re: Extension Hotel, North Ormesby Road, Middlesbrough 1930's

Posted: 28 Dec 2013 11:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Dec 2013 1:32PM GMT
Hello CD, you have returned, I suspected that you might have been having some sort of problem that prevented you from logging on more often, I hope that is resolved.

Because you were also having technical problems with accessing this particular message board, I also, as you requested, sent the above information to you, via pm on here and also via offsite email, but you also seemed to be having technical problems with that, so I resent it.

Ancestry doesn't seem to be sending any sort of automated reply notifications, the best way to see if your message has been replied to, is to log on and then mouse over the Collaborate tab at the top of the page, and then, on the drop down list, click on Recent Member Connect Activity.

That will show if there are any message replies, and it will also provide a link to the message thread.

I don't know why you are doubting your Ormesby location information, it seems to be pretty accurate.

Crack on.

This is the death registration for William D. Adkin, who died in 1929, your probable uncle.

As I said above, there is no sign of a birth registration for him, so perhaps he died at or soon after birth, and his parents, being upset, just didn't realise that they should have registered his birth, or perhaps they had adopted him as a baby, and that was his adoptive name.

If that was so, he would have a birth registration, and certificate, in his biological birth name, but in his adoptive name he would not have an adoptive birth registration, and he would have the equivalent to a birth certificate for an adopted person, which is called an adoption certificate.

The way to check if he was adopted, is to apply to the UK General Register Office for a copy of his long version adoption certificate, which should cost about £10, and if he doesn't have one they will refund your application fee.

Biological birth records, and adoptive name records, are held by the GRO once a child is adopted, and so they can't be obtained from local Registration Offices.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customer...

Civil registration event: Death

Name: ADKIN, William D
Registration district: Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1929
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 0
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 1092

Birth, marriage, and death registrations records for Middlesbrough from that era are now held by by Stockton - On - Tees Registration District and you should normally be able to order BMD certs quite easily from most local Registration Offices, either online, by phone, or in person.

The Stockton office though is one of the fairly rare offices that makes the application procedure a bit more opaque, they don't have an online order facility, so you'll need to phone them, or visit in person, if you're in the area, or you can just order any BMD certs online direct from the UK GRO.

The fee for a BMD cert is about £10.

Your granddad died in Middlesbrough in 1941 and there is also a probate record for his death.

I think his age on his death registration is wrong by a year or two though, but it's definitely him, such age and date errors do sometimes happen on such records.

Civil registration event: Death

Name: ADKIN, John H
Registration district: Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1941
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 45
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 947

The following information is from the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966.

ADKIN, John Henry of Extension Hotel North Ormesby Road Middlesborough died 2 August 1941 Administration Llandudno 16 October to Mary Elizabeth Adkin widow. Effects £599 9s.

During WW2 the Probate Registry moved to Llandudno for the duration of WW2.

If he had left a will I would expect them to have used the word Probate, but instead they used the word Administration, which suggests that he did not leave a will.

So his wife would have been his automatic beneficiary and she would have been granted a document called a Letter of Administration, and you can apply for a copy of that document and it will list her October 1941 address.

The fee is £6.

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/family-history

https://courttribunalfinder.service.gov.uk/courts/middlesbro...

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/probate-registries

There is another possible source for your grandmother's post WW2 address, which is your mum's marriage certificate, and perhaps your mum was living with her mother at the time of her marriage.

I will PM you the details of that.

Did your mum never mention where she had been raised or lived. ?

There is another possible source of address information which will also contain other useful information such as exact dates of births.

You may need some death certificates though, and the fee for the I.D. card information is £42.

Britain declared war in September 1939, and within a week the government had recorded everyone's address and personal details in order to be able to issue the population with Identity Cards, which were in use up to February 1952.

Whether future addresses were also added to these records or not, I don't know.

http://www.1911census.org.uk/1939.htm

http://www.hscic.gov.uk/register-service

What do you know about your maternal grandmother, age, birthplace, year and or place of birth, and or death, whatever. ?

If you see this I will add a bit more about your maternal grandfather, I suspect that his father was a Foundryman in a Middlesbrough Iron Works, and that his mother was called Jean and was born in Glasgow.

BTW, I believe that the exact address for the Extension Hotel was 36, North Ormesby Road.

A bit of info about the former location of the Hotel...

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/An+early+card+for+Christmas%3B...
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