Thanks for your email.
There is lots of history posted in many sites that
claim all sides of this question.
When Rootsweb staff and I were setting up the message
boards and mailing lists, we finally settled on using
the Great Hall of Clans fromhttp://www.tartans.com/hall.html
as the deciding line.
I had been using Robert Bains book :
Clans and Tartans of Scotland Revised edition 1971 but we
finally agreed on the Great Hall. The Lord Lyon court
has a reference on their web site to the Great Hall.
The Great Hall is also not clear on exactly wheather
there are member of the Family Robertson that
belong to a Clan that call themselves the
Also please remember that often there
are many members of the "Family" that do not subscribe
to the relationship to the Clan Donnachaidh. I am not
going to get into technical discussions and debate with regard
to this separation or claim of the relationship or when is a
Family ( Lowlands) a Clan or not. Technically
the Clans were only strictly a Highlands Family with
certain characteristics. The Lord Lyon court has taken
on the responsibilities of deciding wheather or not each'
Clan is really a Clan or just a family, and in even in some
cases now pending before the Lord Lyon court ,
a related family ( sometimes called a sept). Another
example is the Clan Duncan and the same questions
apply to the Clan MacDonald. Then the even bigger
question: Is there even a Clan today? The Clan system
really disappeared in the late 1700's after Culloden. The
powerful families took over and the Clans as they
existed became nonexistent. So the Clans as we know
them today is really a social structure and not
the legal and admin structure as it was originally.
Remember this message board and mailing list is for ]
other purposes as well. We are not deciding when a Clan
is a Clan etc. So the fact that a message board is here
is merely a way to let members of the Scottish Family
Robertson have a separate board and mailing list to
keep their own unique Family together and the
culture and history alive. I was frankly more interested
in setting up a Scottish board that allowed even the
Septs etc to each have a message board and mailing
list but that got to be too much overlap with the
surname system. The surname message boards
and mailing lists ( the large ones) tend to eliminate
much of the items that I think are of interest. Certainly
these big boards bury the scottish history so deep that
it's not significant and is very hard to find buried in the
rest of the world tracing of the genealogy.
So we won't get hung up in the somewhat technical
question of wheather this is a proper place for the
Robertson Family to post :-)
John A Hansen