Clan Stewart of Appin - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Stewart of Appin Ancestry Discovered/ Canada

Marstad17 — 2013-04-06 06:11:00Z

Dear Stephen
I have just decided to google the Appin Stewart clan & came across your entry.Through the genesreunited site a few years ago I was able to contact 2 remote cousins in Scotland & was thus able to expand my research.My Grandfather was Donald Stewart-MacInnes & his Mother was an Appin Stewart.We have followed her family back to 1700. In 1963 & 2002 I spent some time in Oban & visited Appin several times.Castle Stalcair(Stalker) was built as a hunting lodge for their kinsman King James but after his death they lost it to the Campbells.The French spelling of the name is incorrect, it should always be Stewart as they were the descendants of Walter, High Steward of Scotland who married the daughter of Robert the Bruce. Steward becoming Stewart.
M.s.Bartlett, New Zealand

Stewart of Appin Ancestry Discovered/ Canada

DrStephenEBolton — 2012-02-26 16:10:32Z

My great x 3 grandmother was Mary Stuart born Appin, Argyle about 1811. Married to Archibald Blair about 1825. They lived in Alloa, Clackmannanshire (where he was born) and had my gx2 grandmother Christina in Alloa about 1828. Family moved to Dunbarton (north of Glasgow) by 1841 census and work in wool industry. Christina marries John McHaffie at Dunbarton in 1851 and have son William in 1854. Archibald, Mary immigrated to New Brunswick, Canada through Boston in 1853. John and Christina with William follow.
Dont't know when Mary Stuart died in New Brunswick.

Stewart DNA from Appin

annstewart42 — 2011-10-18 01:09:58Z

My husband is John Stewart.

His family has diaries that offer insight into past history for the family.

We have notes that refer to Alexander Stewart, descendant ofthe Duke of Albany, came from Appin in the year 1700.

We have Charles Stewart c1775 Appin m Margaret McDonald. Margaret was the dau of John MacDonald son of Donald McDonald of Glencoe.

This family group went from Appin to North Uist to Nova Scotia.

My husband did the DNA from Ancestry. Can we compare with the Appin Stewarts? Where can we find the info?

Help! Ann

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

pamelani — 2011-09-03 04:36:49Z

Dear Michael,
Sorry I haven't helped you yet. Please, write to remind me and I'll put up some post its. Need to go into the archives.
Has anyone out there done DNA?
It would be so wonderful if we could nail down the clan and area for Duncan.
Pam

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

pamelani — 2011-09-03 04:33:40Z

Hi Jody,
Sorry to get back to you so late. There are many descendents of Duncan Stewart here in the U.S. who have tried unsuccessfully to identify his family line in Scotland.
I have been to Edinburgh a number of times - The Stewart Society and the large library in town - and had no luck. I even hired a well known Scottish genealogist to search.
We know Duncan lived in Ipswich, Massachusetts as an indentured servant to one George Hadley. There were many prisoner from the Battles of Worcester and Dunbar who were sent to the Americas at that time but the ship's records are incomplete and we could find no evidence from the old English prisoner lists. If you find anything it would be wonderful. Keep in touch. Pam

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

imshedevil2001 — 2011-08-23 23:12:22Z

Hi Nicole - Your dad would want to ask for an autosomal dna test such as the one offered at FTDNA. It would give him the total picture of his genetic inheritance including the maternal DNA. Good luck and do let us know (fellow descendants of old Duncan) what turns up.

Inez

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

imshedevil2001 — 2011-08-23 23:12:20Z

Re: Scottish Clan DNA Testing

nicolehultgren — 2011-08-23 22:57:56Z

I know you posted this some time ago, but I have just begun my search and the "stuart" / stewart line is part of my lineage through my father's mother. My father has done a DNA test. What would you recommend? Would I need to do the test? Thanks for your help.
Sincerely, Jody Nicole

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

nicolehultgren — 2011-08-23 22:50:07Z

Hi Pam! My name is Jody Nicole and I have just begun doing research for my Dad's side of the family following his mother. She was Mary Helen Stuart. Here line is Floyd Stuart-Harvey Stuart-Silas Stuart jr. - Silas Stuart , Sr - Jeremiah Stuart Jr - Jeremiah Sr. - Richard Stuart - Ebenezer Stewart - Duncan Stewart.

I have moved to London, England and I'm heading up to Scotland next week. It would be lovely to have a clear connection to where Duncan came from and which clan he belonged to.

Did you get anymore information?

My dad did his DNA -- not sure if that would get to the Stuart/Stewart side since it stems from his mother.

Thanks for any insight or suggestions!

Cheers,
Jody

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

pamelani — 2010-02-04 06:14:31Z

Thanks, Pauline & Kathy,
The 'tree' is hand written in pencil. I will try to dig it out this weekend, take a photo and email it to one of you to see what you think.
I stored everything away about 5 years ago so, please, be patient.
Are any of you related to Duncan of Ipswich?
Thank you for rekindling the fire.
Pam

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

mt_stewart — 2010-02-04 00:00:38Z

...or take pictures of quadrants and we can paste them together on our end

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

PaulineStewart51 — 2010-02-03 23:39:48Z

Pam, you are correct that the Stewart participant must be from an all male bloodline.
I wonder if someone with a good digital camera could take a picture of your document. I would be afraid to try the snailmail route. Something could happen to it.

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

pamelani — 2010-02-03 17:43:22Z

Thanks, for the ideas, Mike.
I have long ago given up on confirming Duncan's Scottish links.
Professionals in Scotland have said that so many records have been lost that sometimes you must surrender to that fact.
Here in the U.S.the NEHGS has done a lot of work and could find nothing. Others of us have poked and read and reviewed documents for so many years that, unless we can confirm a new source here or in Scotland I must confess, I cannot get excited.
Yours in digging, Pam

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

pamelani — 2010-02-03 17:27:56Z

Dear Kathi,
Thanks for your support. I would join the Stewart DNA group but, as I understand it, male to male descendant DNA is required for conclusive lineage results. We have no willing men in our tree so far.
The 'family tree' is old and very large. Written on parchment paper probably in the mid 1900's and covering only the more ancient lines. It appears to be trying to link Duncan Stewart of Ipswich to the Stewarts of Appin.
Not possible nor would it be very readable to copy.
If there is a head of your group that I can trust to read and share it, I could find it and send it as long as it's returned. Pam Gould

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

mt_stewart — 2010-02-02 17:31:29Z

Good point, Kat! Also, it would be worthy to mention there are 3 or 4 clan Stewart Facebook groups that are good for queries and networking.

Cheers
Mike Stewart

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

bobbkat — 2010-02-02 12:08:48Z

Hello Pam,
There is a Stewart DNA Yahoo Group. If you joined it, you could post a picture of the Family Tree that you have and make it available to others for their research.
Please consider joining.
Kathi Bobb
bobbkat1@aol.com

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

pamelani — 2010-02-02 06:25:26Z

Dear Mike,
Thanks for the quick reply. I am a bit fuzzy on how the Ardrsheal line and the Stewarts of Appin line up. Nonetheless your news sounds as though it may be encouraging.
With your urging, I'll investigate the site you mentioned.
I have no image of Duncan from the 1600's. There are a number of court records where he is mentioned. I even have the name of the man to whom he was indentured in Ipswich MA - George Hadley. Have contacted his descendants to see if they have any records. None found.
I will have to think if I have any photo's of his grandsons but yes, I do have that fragile family tree. It was evidently put together by another relative of ours (?) many years ago.
At the Stewart Society in Edinborough, and as you have probably found online, there are many of us in search of a thread linking our Duncan Stewart to his home in Scotland.
Pam Gould - Maui HI

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

mt_stewart — 2010-02-02 06:09:45Z

Sorry about all of that trouble. First, I have good news regarding the DNA on the Adrsheal line, it has been done. Mine is a very close match too. We suspect our common ancestor is John 4th of Ardsheal. More on that another time.

I am finding that the DNA math is best for narrowing focus on research. It will eliminate many possibilities and dial into a specific century and region. I would strongly recommend this avenue to get started again. FamilytreeDNA.com

Any chance you have a scan of an early image of Duncan, his sons or grandsons? Also, you wouldn't still have that tree you mentioned do you?

Cheers,
Mike
San Diego

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

pamelani — 2010-02-02 05:41:43Z

I had given up. I hired David Dobson for a small fortune and he found nothing. Hired genealogists on this side of the lake and they found nothing. Went to Edinborough, both the libraries and the Stewart Society, and found nothing conclusive. The Appin clan did not reply to my queries. I have some interesting original, hand-made family trees on parchment with notes in the margins that the staff at the Stewart Soc. gave me (please don't turn them in).
As of five years ago, none of the surviving male Duncan Stewart descendants would submit to DNA testing.
I had taken a prolonged break until your email appeared.
Thanks for the surprise and your interest. Pam Gould

Re: Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

mt_stewart — 2010-02-02 01:11:48Z

Hi Pam

How are you coming with this. I have some Appin info and many contacts. Maybe I can help. Have you had DNA tested on any of your male Stewarts?

Cheers
Mike Stewart
mtstew@mac.com

Re: William Stewart and the Jacobites

mt_stewart — 2009-04-12 01:28:51Z

Hi,

Through Family Tree DNA it appears I may be most connected to the Appin Clan also. I have three ancestors in Armagh No. Ireland in the 1800's, but cannot follow any paperwork to Scotland. My oldest is Hugh (c.1800), his son William and his David Allan Stewart (1872-1916). David left for the US in 1890's. I have more info and would enjoy collaborating. mtstew@me.com

I'm now in San Diego, CA

Cheers,
Mike

Re: William Stewart and the Jacobites

mark_james10 — 2008-12-05 10:47:54Z

Hi,
I'm also tracing my Stewart of Appin clan. Charles Stewart of Achara (1840-1916) was my great grandfather. His father Duncan John Stewart married Harriet Gore at the British Embassy Chapel in Paris, France. This is as far as I can get. Please can you help me with more information.
Thank you.
Mark

Clan Stewart Society in America Announcement: 2005 Election Results

13confido — 2005-08-19 06:50:48Z

Dear CSSA Members:

I have been sent the results of the election at the AGM in Fergus, Ontario, Canada this month.
As soon as I can work out a few wrinkles, I will update the Clan Stewart Society
in America web site to reflect this new information.

President-----Fred Stewart
Vice President----Donald Macleay
Treasurer----Alvin Stewart (Appointed)
Secretary-----Jan Hansen
Region I-----Vacant
Region II-----John Hansen (Appointed)
Region III----Cathy Geiger
Region V----Robin Walker
Region VII----Randy Stewart
Region IX-----Vacant
Region XI-----Ian Stewart
Region XII----Vacant
Proposed Bylaws Change------Passed

Please join me in congratulating the incoming Officers.

Thank you to all who ran and were willing to volunteer their time.

Yours Aye,

Lauren
Lauren M. Boyd, FSA Scot
CSSA Web Master
Chair, Genealogical Committee

Duncan (2) & Alexander - Battle of Dunbar 1650

2005-03-15 20:16:03Z

My ancestor, Duncan Stewart, arrived in Mass. about 1650/51, reportedly aboard the UNITY, a prisoner from the Battle of Dunbar. Attempting to confirm ties to the Stewarts of Appin.
Does anyone know what happened to the following Stewarts of Appin?
Duncan Mor Stewart, 8th of Appin

Duncan, 2nd of Ardsheal

Alexander, 4th of Invernahyle

Did they fight in the Battle of Dunbar? Did they come home?
Thank you so very much for your help.
Pam

William Stewart and the Jacobites

ausdave8149 — 2005-03-03 00:14:22Z

Have been researching William Stewart and family -Appin Stewarts for some time now.
William died in 1822 at Hillhead,Dumfires,birth record not known.William's father was with Bonnie Prince Charlie at Montrose and Culloden and escaped with BPC to Inverness and then to France.William Stewart returned to Dumfries
and married Margaret Graham of Shaw-she was born 1767.
Had 11 children including Duncan Stewart of Harriet Gore/Augustus Hare fame.Other notable son was James Hope Stewart of Slodahill 1790-1856 whose 12 children included William whodied in Hong Kong-Jardine Matheson partner and Charled Stewart who headed off to Cape of Good Hope.

Interested in any one who may have info/family-I have much info to share

Re: Stewart of Appin, circa 1908

2005-02-06 21:35:02Z

I do not think that there was a 13th Stewart of Appin, directly. Dugald(10th of Appin) died in 1769( no sons). The title then passed to Ardsheal, John 5th of Appin's second wife and family.
Ardsheal hold the title today.

Stewart of Appin, circa 1908

2005-01-11 21:26:16Z

Looking for help to identify an old postcard which I have here - one of a series published circa 1908 of Scottish Clan Leaders and Aristocracy.

Most of the subjects of these cards I have been able to identify clearly by searching the net, but this one has defeated me - there appears to be nothing online regarding the head of Stewart of Appin from about the 18th Century through to the 16th incumbent in the mid 20th Century.

Titled, "MacIain Stiubhaird na h-Apunn (Stewart of Appin)", the card features a half length portrait of a relatively young man - interestingly (significantly ?) this is the only card in the series where the subject is not in traditional Scottish dress.

Can anyone tell me more of this individual - I am guessing that he must have been the 13th or 14th of Appin but beyond that, I have drawn a blank.

I have this image online - If you want to see it, please use the url below -

http://www.edwardian-delights.com/vp8642.jpg

James & Janet Stewart

2003-09-27 04:20:41Z

Using the Scottish child naming practice I find that the parents of James Stewart of Renfrew b. 1730-5 were Janet & James ? , are there any contenders in Appin as family legend hints that this is where he was from.regards Vaughan.

Wearing the tartan?

peggyjoadams — 2003-05-30 18:13:53Z

I am a descendant of Lady Jean Stewart and Malcolm 3rd Lord Fleming, but one listing adds "one of many illegitimate children, several of whom became prominant figures in Scotland." This geneology continues through the John Flemings to Captain Alexander Fleming who moved to America with his son John Fleming and grandson Charles and their wives. They came between 1652 and 1668,probably when Cromwell invaded Scotland or right after Charles ll was restored to power and threatened the Presbyterian Church causing war. I suspect they were either leaving because of the threat, or were sent as prisoners after having been arrested.
They settled in Virginia.

I am volunteering at a Re-enactment fair in June and must have an accurate costume for the 1700's. Because of my lineage, I want to go as "one of my ancestors". The time period would be right for me to be the child of Charles and Suzannah Fleming. I would be born in Virginia, but my parents both born in Scotland. My question is, would I have worn the tartan plaid over my chemise and petticoat? And would it be offensive for me to choose the Stewart plaid to use in my costume? Also, if Flemings did NOT wear this plaid, does anyone know which one they would have worn?
Since this is a bit off the geneology topic, please email me privately with your answers if you will. pjadams@sbcglobal.net

Clan Stewart's New Web Site!

13confido — 2003-02-18 15:41:24Z

Aye Stewarts!

After so many years of having minimal space at Tartans.com,
Clan Stewart Society in America has finally obtained a
site of their own. You will still find mention of the
Society at Tartans.com as that was the main function of
that site -- to provide a location to enable contact with
the clans.

The new site will allow for expanded posting of items of interest to Stewarts [of all spellings.] Please visit
http://www.clansstewart.org

Note: there *are* 2 "s" for clans Stewart as the Stewarts
are not one clan, but rather, many clans.

Yours Aye,

Lauren Boyd
Chair, Genealogical Committee
Genealogist
Clan Stewart Society in America, Inc.
genealogist @ clanstewart.org

Associated Families of Stewart -- listing and explanation

13confido — 2002-12-16 16:31:44Z

Obit: Stewart, Alvin Sam, Abilene, TX , July 6, 2002

13confido — 2002-07-10 23:51:05Z

Abilene Reporter News
July 10, 2002

Alvin Sam Stewart

Alvin Sam Stewart, 96, of Abilene, died Saturday, July 6, 2002, at a local hospital.

Services will be at 2:00 p.m. Thursday, July 11, at Community Memorial Funeral
Home Chapel, 1442 North 2nd St., with George Ewing officiating. Burial will be in
the Masonic Cemetery.

Mr. Stewart was born in Dublin, Texas on November 3, 1905. He came to Abilene
from Petty, Texas in 1957 and was a member of Southern Hills Church of Christ.
During World War II, he worked for the government at Camp Barkley and at Mare
Island in California. For ten years he was the parking lot attendant at Cooper High
School. In 1936, he married Minnie Marie Campbell in Hamlin. She preceded him in
death in 1984.

His survivors include five sons, Walter Finley Stewart of Las Cruces, NM, Alvin
Edward Stewart of Vacaville, CA, John Edd Stewart of Frankston, TX, Ronnie
LeRoy Stewart of Houston, and Lynn Carlton Stewart of Abilene; 14 grandchildren;
11 great- grandchildren; and three great-great-grandchildren. He was preceded in
death by his parents, Walter Sam Stewart and Nancy Emma Mason Stewart; one
son, Bobby Joe Stewart; three sisters, and one brother.

Visitation will be from 6 to 8 p.m. on Wednesday, July 10, at the funeral home.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Poster's Notes: I am not related. Mr. Stewart died at a time that Abilene, Texas was experiencing flooding.

Alvin Edward Stewart, son of descedent, is current President of Clan Stewart Society in America, Inc.

The Clan extends heartfelt condolances to all related to Alvin Sam Stewart.

Lauren Boyd
Chair, Genealogical Committee
Genealogist
Clan Stewart Society in America, Inc.

Scottish Clan DNA Testing

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Castles

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Events, Gatherings, and Reunions

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Scottish Clan Research and Events

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