I need to add to my posting, for the benefit of those who are looking for these surnames in connection to the Miller/Muller (Mueller?) surname. As I stated, my Joseph Garder & wife Marie TC Raison (de la Geneste) were buried in Barboursville, VA (borders Ohio) at least one of their children married into a prominent MILLER family, there, perhaps two. I saw a posting re:Miller connecting them to the Rizens etal, also...Raison morphed to that, also: Raisin/Rizen/Reason(er) etc. Also Ridder/Knight are shown to mean the same thing, which brings me questions, also as I have Knights/McKnights also and of course theres the Knight-Ridder AP News service. Ridder is Dutch. So is my de Chaussenelle who's also married into my Raison group, prior to fleeing St Dom, or in Cuba, depending on the a/c read. Also there's Modeste/Modisette I have questions on, too. This is for the ones looking for the Millers in LA who are with this group...the French/Germans (Huguenots/Palatines) were/are joined at the hip, looks like, forever & to this day, at least.