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Scots Loyalists of Tyron Co., NY

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Scots Loyalists of Tyron Co., NY

Posted: 14 Jul 2003 4:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Flewelling/Murray
Scots Loyalists Who Came to Tryon County, NY in 1773

These names are derived from abstracts of Loyalist Claims as in, Second Report of the Bureau of Archives for the Province of Ontario, by Alexander Fraser, Provincial Archivist, 1904. Printed by Order of The Legislative Assembly of Ontario. Toronto: L.K. Cameron, Printer to the King's Most Excellent Majesty, 1905. This book was reprinted in 1994 by the Genealogical Publishing Co. of Baltimore, MD.
These abstracts are reproduced at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/regiments/loyalistclaims.h...
A search of this site shows that a number of Scots arrived in North America in 1773, to settle on Sir John Johnson’s lands in Northern New York; particularly what was then Tyron Co., and it is very probable (and there are hints to this effect), that most were recruited as settlers by Johnson.
While, in general, only those arriving in 1773 are noted, there were some others arriving in 1772 and 1774, suggesting a long-term recruitment of settlers from Scotland. Most, however, arrived in 1773, suggesting a group immigration. Johnson, (although b. County Meath, Ireland) was a bearer of a surname of some significance in the Border Country, and could probably prevail upon these Scots (whose sense of loyalty to the ‘Laird’, would be a matter of honour and tradition), to join Loyalist regiments; particularly his own and the 84th Emigrant Highlanders. Noting, where indicated, the regiments in which these Loyalists served supports that concept; and the Scottish notion of Johnson as the local ‘Laird’. Sir John Johnson’s Regiment and the King’s Royal Regiment of New York (the ‘Royal Yorkers’, ‘Royal Greens’, ‘Johnson’s Greens’ and ‘Sir John’s Corps’, were the same unit.) Butler’s Rangers was formed from men of this Regiment.
The McDonell’s, of whom there are many, would be attracted to the 84th which was officered by many of their clansmen (McDonald’s/McDonell’s); possibly even kinsmen.
That many of these people knew each other is evident as they are witnesses to each other’s claims.
It may be well worth perusing a web site on Sgt Donald Ban Mor McGillis at:
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rominator/DonaldBanMor.html
by Clarence A. Kipling, 21JUL2000. The maiden name of ‘Big Fair’ Donald’s wife, Mary McDonell, suggests his reasons for emigrating. In SEPT1773, Donald and Mary came to North America aboard the naval frigate, ‘Pearl’. This was part of a migration led by brothers, John of Leek, Sir William and Allan (of Cullachy) McDonell, and their cousin, Col. ‘Spanish’ John McDonell (a Jacobite of some renown, and later an officer of the Kings’ Royal Regiment of New York.) Donald settled on Sir John Johnson’s land, was to join the Kings’ Royal Regiment of New York. On the ship was also Alexander McDonell of Aberchalder and several hundred (425 according to one statement) highlanders. The ‘Pearl’ was taking on passengers in Fort William, Scotland in AUG1773, sailed in September and arrived in New York City 18OCT1773.
Another family on the ‘Pearl’ was that of Thomas Taylor and Isabella Ross, settling on Sir William Johnston’s land, also in the Kings’ Royal Regiment of New York. See web site at:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guppyross/rosstt.ht...
Thomas Taylor Ross and Isabella Family Collection, Don and Jeanne Ross, undated.
These examples indicate that the above list does not include all Scots to the area in 1773, in fact, probably only a fraction of them. This suggests a massive and concerted effort at settlement by persons not strangers to each other before 1773.
Another family aboard the ‘Pearl’, (although it is referred to as the ‘SS Pearl’ (steamship ’Pearl’) so the reliability of that particular site is in question), was that of Capt. Simon Fraser of Culbokie and Isabel Grant of Duldreggan; parents of the famous Canadian explorer, Simon Fraser. Formerly with the Glengarry Fencibles, Capt. Simon Fraser also served with the Kings’ Royal Regiment of New York.
It would seem that here is a tale of epic proportions.

Thomas A. Murray


name surname unit/comments
Angus Bethune Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
John Cameron Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
John Cameron Scout, secret service (spy?), son in Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
John Cameron (recently died (between 1783-28JAN1788), widow, Ann) Sir John Johnson’s Regiment, 1st Battalion
Alexander Chisholm
Alexander Grant Kings’ Royal Regiment of New York
Donald Grant 1st Battalion, Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
Finlay Grant (arrived America 14 years ago, ca. 1773-4?)
Alexander McDonell 85th Regiment (probably means 84th Emigrant Highlanders)
Alexander McDonell (arrived 15 years ago, ca. 1774-5?), Sir John Johnson’s Regiment, 1st Battalion
Angus McDonell 84th Emigrant Highlanders
Cpl. Donald McDonell (s/o the late Alexander McDonell d. 19DEC1787, 84th Emigrant Highlanders), 84th Emigrant Highlanders
John McDonell (eldest s/o the late Alexander McDonell d. 19DEC1787, 84th Emigrant Highlanders), 84th Emigrant Highlanders
John McDonell 84th Emigrant Highlanders
Kenneth McDonell 84th Emigrant Highlanders
Roderick McDonell (arrived 15 years ago, ca. 1774-5?)
Ronald McDonell 84th Emigrant Highlanders
John McDonell, Sr. (arrived America 14 years ago; presumably claim dated 12NOV1789?, therefore arrived ca. 1774-5?), 84th Emigrant Highlanders
Alexander McDonnell 84th Emigrant Highlanders
John McDonnell
John McIntosh 84th Emigrant Highlanders
John McKay of Harpersfield, Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
Duncan McKenzie (1774/5, s/o John McKenzie) of Harpersfield, Sir John Johnson’s Regiment, 1st Battalion
Donald McLean Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
Sgt. Murdoch McLean Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
John McLennan
William McLeod Sir John Johnson’s Corps
John McMartin Engineer’s Department
Malcolm McMartin Engineer’s Department
Alexander McPherson Sir John Johnson’s Regiment, 1st Battalion
James Parks (partner of Archibald Thompson, both settled on John Harper’s land, submitted claim together), Capt. McDonell (84th Emigrant Highlanders?)
William Rose Sir John Johnson’s Regiment
Archibald Thompson (partner of James Parks, both settled on John Harper’s land, submitted claim together), Capt. McDonell (84th Emigrant Highlanders?)
William Urquhart Sir John Johnson’s Regiment, 1st Battalion

SubjectAuthorDate Posted
minervamorgan 14 Jul 2003 10:33PM GMT 
JuliaP53 28 Mar 2004 8:15AM GMT 
Thomas A. Murray 7 Apr 2004 5:44AM GMT 
Elaine 17 Jul 2005 2:05PM GMT 
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