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Caroline Warmaschersion

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Re: Caroline Warmaschersion

Posted: 5 Aug 2012 8:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello John. Here is what I found so far. You have 4 opportunities (2 each) to find the parents of Edor & Caroline. First, Caroline's maiden name seems to have been spelled (correctly?) as WERMERSKIRCHEN. Seems to be German.

Edor was married twice, and Caroline seems to have been married 3 times. 4 of these 5 marriages are in the Minnesota Marriage Index. Edor first married a Christina (Stina) Ringham Nov 3, 1894 in Lyon County, Minn, and had 3 known children with her, Orvin (aka Percy in later census, Casper, and Evelyn. Then he married Caroline March 5, 1921 in Brown County, Minn.
Caroline first married a George Grengs September 24, 1902 in Yellow Medicine County, Minn., and had 5 known children with him, then married a man last name Kloek (didn't find marriage online), had 1 known child with him, then married Edor, and had 4 known children with him. Caroline (Carrie) married Edor using her 2nd marriage name as last name in the record, Kloek.

Caroline may have had a sister Rosie Wermerskirchen, who married a Frank Grengs, who may have been a brother to Caroline's first husband, George Grengs. Both couples married on the same day.

http://www.mncounty.com/Modules/Certificates/Marriage/Defaul...

MN County Certificate # Date Groom's Name Bride's Name Request a Copy

LYON C-199 11/3/1894 MYERS, EDOR RINGHAM, STINA

YELLOW MEDICINE D-233 9/24/1902 GRENGS, GEORGE WERMERSKIRCHEN, CAROLINE

YELLOW MEDICINE D-232 9/24/1902 GRENGS, FRANK WERMERSKIRCHEN, ROSIE

BROWN Q-333 3/5/1921 MEYERS, EDOR KLOEK, CARRIE
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Edor's parents were most likely Peter Meyers and Ellen Ramberg. I personally believe that Peter's last name may have come from a Norwegian farm name that sounds like Meyers, but spelled different in Norway. I believe Ellen's last name of Ramberg was a farm name in Norway. Norwegians sometimes used the name of the farm they were born on, or lived on in Norway, before immigrating to the U.S. Most likely to distinguish themselves from other people with their real surnames, which consisted of their father's first name.

An Example:

Ole Evenson...father's first name was Even. Even's last name could have been Pederson, Evenson, Amundson, etc., depending on what his father's first name was.

Same for females:

Anna Evensdotter...father's first name was Even. And so on.
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I believe this was Edor (aka Olaus) in the 1880 census with his parents & siblings & grandmother...

***Birgitt's father's first name was most likely Aamon/Amund
She wasn't in the 1885 state census with the family, but shows up in the 1895 state census as Berget Ramberg. Also in the 1900 census. Ramberg was most likely the farm name in Norway they may have lived in before immigrating to U.S.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the names of some of the children in the 1880 census not matching exactly with later census. They may have been spelled that way by the censustaker as he thought they sounded when their names were given by a member of the family. But you can see that overall this is the same family in the census years...
ages, where they were born, etc.
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1880 United States Federal Census, Nordland, Lyon, Minnesota

Peter Meyers, head, age 35, born about 1845 Norway, parents born Norway

Ellen Meyers, wife, age 34, born about 1846 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Martin Meyers, son, age 13, born about 1867 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Brigett Meyers, daughter, age 11, born about 1869 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Olaus Meyers, son, age 8, born about 1872 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Randine Meyers, daughter, age 6, born about 1874 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Joren Meyers, daughter, age 4, born about 1876 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Oscar Meyers, son, age 1, born about 1879 Minnesota, parents born Norway

Birgitt Aamonsdotter, mother-in-law, age 65, born about 1815 Norway, parents born Norway
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In this 1885 census, Olaus from the 1880 census shows up as Eder...

Minnesota, Territorial and State Census, 1849-1905
19 May 1885 State Census, Eidsvold, Lyon County, Minnesota

P R Myers, age 41, born abt 1844 Norway (male)
Ellen Myers, age 40, born abt 1845 Wisconsin (female)
Dinna Myers, age 16, born abt 1869 Wisconsin (female)
Eder Myers, age 13, born abt 1872 Wisconsin (male)
Nette Myers, age 11, born abt 1874 Wisconsin (female)
Burt Myers, age 9, born abt 1876 Wisconsin (female)
Oscar Myers, age 6, born abt 1879 Minnesota (male)
Ella Myers, age 4, born abt 1881 Minnesota (female)
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In this 1895 census, Edor and his 1st wife Christine, and their son Ole (Orvin in 1900, Percy in later census), is living with his parents and siblings. They must have listed the children by age, so Nettie & the rest of the children belong to Peter & Ellen, even though they are listed after Edor, Christine, & Ole....

Minnesota, Territorial and State Census, 1849-1905
18 June 1895 State Census, Eidsvold, Lyon County, Minnesota

Peter Myers, age 54, born abt 1841 Norway (farmer)
Ellen Myers, age 53, born abt 1842 Wisconsin (wife)
Sina Myers, age 23, born abt 1872 Wisconsin (daughter)
Edor Myers, age 22, born abt 1873 Wisconsin (farmer)
Christina Myers, age 19, born abt 1876 Wisconsin (wife)
Ole Myers, age 1/12, born abt 1895 Minnesota (son)
Nettie Myers, age 19, born abt 1876 Wisconsin (daughter)
Bertha Myers, age 18, born abt 1877 Wisconsin (daughter)
Oscar Myers, age 16, born abt 1879 Minnesota (son)
Ella Myers, age 13, born abt 1882 Minnesota (daughter)
Emma Myers, age 11, born abt 1884 Minnesota (daughter)
Alferd Myers, age 8, born abt 1887 Minnesota (son)
Berget Ramberg, age 84, born abt 1811 Norway (old lady)
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1900 United States Federal Census, Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota

Peter Meyer, head, age 55, married 34 years, born June 1845 Norway, parents born Norway, immigrated 1846, naturalized

Ellen Meyer, wife, age 54, married 34 years, 10 children, 9 children living, born Apr 1846 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Ella Meyer, daughter, age 18, born Nov 1881 Minnesota
Emma Meyer, daughter, age 14, born Aug 1885 Minnesota
Fredi Meyer, son, age 12, born Dec 1887 Minnesota

Bergite Ramberg, mother-in-law, age 86, widow, 7 children, 4 living, born Nov 1813 Norway, parents born Norway, immigrated 1840
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1900 United States Federal Census, Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota

Edor Meyer, head, age 28, married 5 years, born March 1873 Wisconsin, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin

Christine Meyer, wife, age 24, married 5 years, 3 children, 3 living, born May 1876 Minnesota, parents born Norway

Orvin Meyer, son, age 4, born June 1895 Minnesota
Casper Meyer, son, age 3, born Dec 1896 Minnesota
Abeline Meyer, daughter, age 11/12 , born June 1899 Minnesota
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I am sure that Percie & Eveline were 2 of the 3 children of Edor & Christine, but living with their grandparents Peter & Ellen...

Casper, the 3rd child of Edor & Christine, was also living in the Village of Minnesota. He was staying with a family by the name of Huseby, which I was able to find out in later census that Nettie Meyers, Edor's sister, was the wife of Amond Huseby in the 1905 census, and they adopted Casper Eugene Meyers, Edor's son.

I haven't been able to find Edor or Christine in this 1905 state census...nor in 1910, not 1920. Christine most likely died, but Edor shows up in 1930.

Minnesota, Territorial and State Census, 1849-1905
3 Jun 1905 State Census, Village of Minnesota, Lyon County, Minnesota

Peter R Myers, age 62, born abt 1843 Norway, parents born Norway
Ellen Myers, age 61, born abt 1844 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Oscar A Myers, age 26, born abt 1879 Minnesota, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin

Ellas P Myers, age 27 (24), born abt 1878 (1881) Minnesota, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin

Emma F Myers, age 19, born abt 1886 Minnesota, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin

Carl A Myers, age 17, born abt 1888 Minnesota, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin

Percie O Myers, age 9, born abt 1896 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota

Evilene B Myers, age 5?, born abt 1900 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota

....Same census........2 Jun 1905, Village of Minnesota...

Amond Huseby, age 33, born abt 1872 Minnesota, parents born Norway

Hallie (Nettie) Huseby, age 30, born abt 1875 Wisconsin, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin

Ettel G Huseby, age 8, born abt 1897 Minnesota, father born Minnesota, mother born Wisconsin

Normel P Huseby, age 7, born abt 1898 Minnesota, father born Minnesota, mother born Wisconsin

Clifford H Huseby, age 2/12, born abt 1905 Minnesota, father born Minnesota, mother born Wisconsin

Casper E Myers, age 7, born abt 1898 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota
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1910 United States Federal Census, Watertown Ward 4, Codington, South Dakota

Amma (Amond) Hunley (Huseby?), head, age 36, 1st marriage, married 15 years, born abt 1874 Minnesota, parents born Norway

Dettie (Nettie) R Hunley (Huseby?), wife, age 35, 1st marriage, married 15 years, 5 children, 4 living, born abt 1875 Wisconsin, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin

Ethel G Hunley (Huseby?), daughter, age 13, born abt 1897 Minnesota

Norma P Hunley (Huseby?), daughter, age 12, born abt 1898 Minnesota

Clifford J Hunley (Huseby?), son, age 5, born abt 1905 Minnesota

Dwyne H Hunley (Huseby?), son, age 1, born abt 1909 South Dakota

Eugene C Myers, Adopted Son, age 13, born abt 1897 Minnesota,
father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota

George E Ramberg 23 (Boarder)

Ella P Myers, sister-in-law, age 27, born abt 1883 Minnesota, father born Norway, mother born Wisconsin
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1910 United States Federal Census, Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota

Peter M Meyers, head, age 66, 1st marriage, married 45 years, born about 1844 Norway, parents born Norway naturalized

Ellen Meyers, wife, age 65, 1st? marriage, married 45 years, 10 children, 9? children living, born about 1845 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Percy Meyers, grandson, age 15, born about 1895 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota

Evelyn Meyers, granddaughter, age 10, born about 1900 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota
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1920 United States Federal Census, Minneota Village, Eidsvold Township crossed off, Lyon County, Minnesota
Enumerated January 5

Peter Meyers, head, age 78, born about 1842 Norway, parents born Norway, immigrated 1843, naturalized 1884

Aillen Meyers, wife, age 77, born about 1843 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

NEXT FAMILY.....

Carrie Klock (Kloek), head, age 37, widow, born about 1883 Minnesota, parents born Germany

Cornelia Grengs, daughter, age 13, born about 1907 Minnesota, parents born Minnesota

Elenora Grengs, daughter, age 11, born about 1909 Minnesota, parents born Minnesota

George Grengs, son, age 9, born about 1911 Minnesota, parents born Minnesota

Agnes Grengs, daughter, age 7, born about 1913 Minnesota, parents born Minnesota

Katherine Grengs, daughter, age 5, born about 1915 Minnesota, parents born Minnesota

Cornelius Klock (Kloek), son, age 0[4/12] , born about 1919 Minnesota, parents born Minnesota
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1930 United States Federal Census, Springfield, Brown County, Minnesota

Edor Meyers, head, age 58, married age 23, born about 1872 Wisconsin, parents born Norway

Caroline Meyers, wife, age 47, married age 20, born about 1883 Minnesota, father born Germany, mother born Minnesota

George Grengs, step son, age 19, born about 1911 Minnesota, father born Germany, mother born Minnesota

Agnes Grengs, step daughter, age 17, born about 1913 Minnesota, father born Germany, mother born Minnesota

Joseph Meyers, son, age 10, born about 1920 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota

Aloysius Meyers, son, age 8, born about 1922 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota

Francis Meyers, son, age 6, born about 1924 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota

Robert J Meyers, son, age 2 [2 1/12], born about 1928 Minnesota, father born Wisconsin, mother born Minnesota
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1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Edor Meyers
Respondent: Yes
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Verdi, Lincoln, Minnesota
Street: County Road
Farm: Yes
Inferred Residence in 1935: Springfield, Brown, Minnesota
Residence in 1935: Springfield, Brown, Minnesota
Sheet Number: 7A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 124
Household Members: Name Age
Edor Meyers 68
Caroline Meyers 57
Aloysuis Meyers 18
Francis Meyers 16
James Meyers 12
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