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BOXELL MURDER

jeanlinton17 — 26 Jun 2004 12:59:21 GMT

I am looking for more info on my gggrandfather & his 2 wives. William Thomas Boxell born 17 mar 1836 Van Buren Township, Grant co, Indiana to John D. Boxell (Boxwell) & Anna Eliza McFadden.
William's 1st wife:

Rachael Nelson

b: abt 20 jun 1840

(whereabouts unknown)

d: 28 jun 1896

Middleville, Wright co, Minnesota

William & Rachael had 14 children together. Do not know
what happened to them?

William's 2nd wife:

Lydia Millie Oliver

b: 1879

(whereabouts unknown)

d: 15 may 1897

Middleville, Wright co, Minnesota

both William & Lydia were murdered on the nite of may 15, 1897. Someone using an axe killed them both & locked the
doors of the home. He was found outside near the road - possibly trying to escape - she was in the bedroom - looked like she was trying to use a gun to defend herself.

3 yrs later they indicted 2 sons - Joseph & John Boxell as well as a son-in-law George Taylor. Joseph was tried & aquitted. Charges were dropped agains the others.

also in mar 1899 another daughter of William & Rachael's was shot to death by her husband. Sarah Boxell Kier. She had a 20 month old child with her - child unharmed - husband Fred T. Kier convicted of 3rd degree murder. would like to know anything about the child?

George Taylor was born: 7 aug 1859 (where unknown) parents were Myles Taylor & Mary Jane Gray. The 3 Taylor brothers married 3 of the Boxell daughters. can find nothing out about the Taylor family.

would be ever so grateful for anyone's help with the above
people. Also would love to hear from any other decendents of William & Rachael (Nelson) Boxell!

thank you for your time,

Jean Linton

Louis Denver OH>IL>WY

lorirw61 — 29 Jun 2001 7:05:17 GMT

Looking for information on g.g granfather Louis Denver, aka L.S. or L.D. Denver born around 1855. Convicted of stealing a horse in Uinta Co., WY and spent 4 years in Joliet prison 1889-1894. Wife (Minnie Kutch Denver) divorced him and remarried and children were sent to boarding school at Grand Junction, CO. and know nothing else of their father. The second record I find of Louis, he is in the Wyoming State Prison for "obtaining goods on false pretenses" in Savery, WY (Carbon county). He supposedly had a second family here but I only know the name of the eldest boy, Roy, who went to Oregon. Louis disappeared after he was released from prison in 1902. Both records at these prisons list his birthplace as Illinois and his parent's birthplace as Ohio but I have been unable to find him on any census.
Any help/advice appreciated.

Hijacked?

KarenTraverse — 9 Dec 2003 10:40:24 GMT

I am told that some or all of these folks were "wild and reckless" but cannot verify. One is even supposed to have been shanghied in San Francisco. Can anyone help me.

bart thrasher

dakotasky9 — 25 Apr 2008 5:41:28 GMT

was bart thrasher

was bart thrasher and barton thrasher the same person.

if you have any informaton on this family please e-mail it to me . because they are part of my family. my great grand mother was evie thrasher born in 1897. my name is shannon.so if do have information on this family send it to dakotasky9@yahoo.com thanks

George Manning, abt 1828 - 1 Feb 1894

eallynm — 4 Dec 2007 1:46:35 GMT

Seeking information about the George Manning and his family. George was born abt. 1828, Ohio, d. 1 Feb 1894 West Hammond, IL (but death recorded in Hammond, IN). He served time in the Missouri State Penitentiary for counterfeiting. His second wife was Mary Allyn, a cousin of my grandfather. George and Mary had a daughter, Jessie. George and his first wife "Ibby" had a son, Sidney, and a daughter, Cora. Cora married Jesse Crook in Colorado, and they had a son, George A. Crook. Cora and Jesse were divorced. There were two divorce proceedings: first Cora vs. Jesse in Cook Co., IL, later Jesse vs. Cora in Colorado.

The Pony Club

voodoo125 — 30 Nov 2007 4:19:49 GMT

I see that the Pony Club has been a hot topic while I was away. I'd share what I know if you are still here...
~Don IBSSG

Jacob Painter changed name to Jacob Bender abt. 1852 PA.

JohnCBassSr — 11 Nov 2007 8:41:55 GMT

Jacob's 1st wife was still around when he married a woman much older than 1st or himself. With the name change, he must have married the second for money or something, without getting a divorce. John

PAINTER-BENDER & FISHER

1. JACOB PAINTER b. 03-31-1828 in Pa.
d. 1879 " "
Marriage: Christina Keiner b. 10-19-1836 " "
d. 03-13-1892 "
Children:
1. Jacob Painter b. 06-06-1847 in Pa.
2. Elizabeth " b. 06-01-1848 " "
3. John " b. 06-05-1851
Jacob changed his name to BENDER and married again.
Marriage: Margaret ???? b. 06-01-1822 in Pa.
Children:
1. Simon Bender b. 1853 in Pa.
2. Mahalia " b. 1853 " "
3. Catherine " b. 1856 " "
4. Jenny " b. 07-03-1860 " "
5. Daniel " b. 1862 " "
6. MARTHA BENDER b. 07-27-1864 " "
7. Ashway " b. 08-29-1865 " "
8. Annie " b. 05-26-1866 " "
9. Alice " b. 06-27-1868 " "
10. Caleb " b. 05-17-1870 " "
11. Julie " b. 10-31-1872 " "
12. Harry " b. 1874 " "
13. Amos " b. 10-19-1879 " "

2. MARTHA PAINTER-BENDER b. 07-27-1864 in Pa.
d. 04-11-1927 " "
Marriage: Jacob Fisher b. ???? in ??
d. ???? in Pa.
Children:
1. Russell Fisher b. ???? in Pa.
2. Edward " b. " " "
3. Emma " b. " " "
4. BERTHA MAY FISHER b. 03-02-1886 in Pa.

3. BERTHA MAY FISHER b. 03-02-1886 in Pa.
d. 04-04-1973 " "
Marriage: John Franklin Cook b. 06-20-1872 in Pa.
d. 11-20-1950 " "
Bertha and John were the parents of Jacob Franklin Cook, father of Winifred Orlea Cook.

Death date for Marshall Eugene Boswell

Tamara — 28 Jul 2000 12:00:00 GMT

I am seeking the medical and burial records of Marshall Eugene Boswell, born August 4, 1840 in Rochester, NY. He enlisted in Company A 4th Regiment of Wisconsin Volunteers
at Whitewater, WI on April 25, 1861 and received a disability discharge in Baton Rouge, LA August 24, 1863.

Mr. Boswell suffered from disease contracted during the Civil War as well as alcoholism and opium addiction. His military records indicate that he was a resident of the "Grant County Soldier's Home" in Marion, IN in 1907 other records indicate that he was there in 1912. According to the Indiana State Archives the correct name for this facility is National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers. I don't know whether this was a consecutive stay.

I am interested in records on Mr. Boswell while he was at these military homes, whether he is listed in the Veterans' Graves Registration, and his date of death.

Mr. Boswell is a blacksheep because after being married to my ggrandmother for nearly 30 years and 9 children he married Amorit Homedew Bates (Orton) who had a habit of marrying civil war veterans for their pensions. He forgot to dissolve the marriage to my ggrandmother.

Any help would be appreciated.

BOLINS

LINDA B — 19 Feb 2002 9:19:21 GMT

HI LINDA. WHO WAS YOUR FATHER.I HAV A LINDA IN MY FAMILY.WHOS FATHER WAS KELLY BOLIN.AND KELLYS FATHER WAS EITHER THEO OR RUBE BOLIN

Michael Driscoll born in Ireland

mdriscoll — 25 Aug 1999 12:00:00 GMT

Michael Driscoll, my great great grandfather was born in Cork (Barryroe/Grange),Ireland in 1816. His wife Mary Keohane was also born there 1 Jan 1829.
Paul Mooney, my great great grandfather on my mothers side was born in Queens County, Ireland. His wife Ann (don't know maiden name) was also born there.
James Daugherty, my great,great,great grandfather born in Londenderry his wife Sarah McCormick also born there.
John McCarthy, my dads mothers side born in Cork, Ireland. Any information out there?

Anyone have some info?

jmarsh46 — 23 Jun 2001 11:31:11 GMT

Can anyone help me out?

1. Elva Eaton of Deer Isle, ME had a child by "Fred Wood[s]". Nobody knows anything about him for certain - he may have been a sailor or working in a logging camp nearby.

2. My family suspects that one of our ancestors, William Everett [or his father Nathaniel Everett] who traveld seasonally from Maine to Massachusetts for work was most likely a bigamist.

3. Samuel Wardwell was hung for witchcraft during the Salem With Trials of 1692. I have tried to trace his family [and his wife Sarah Hooper's] back farther but everbody has different charts! Does anybody else have an idea of his ancestry?

4. There's a legend that Capt. Mark Haskell's boat was once boarded by pirates off of the New England coast. They were supposedly looking for a relative of his wife, Jemima [Tilton], who was "in trouble". Can anyone verify/elaborate on this story?

Thanks!
~J

Raabe

Meg Blankenship — 6 Jun 2000 12:00:00 GMT

I am looking for info on my g-grandfather Christopher Raabe. He worked for the Bohemian Club in SF in the 1920's. Aledgedly, he was fired and replaced by a younger man. He shot his replacement at a trolley stop and spent the rest of his life in a mental institution. Would appreciate any info or ideas on where to look.

Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck, notorious horsethief

Sunny — 16 Apr 2006 8:42:45 GMT

Murder of AL. Deputy late 1870's PLEASE HELP ME.

Neal Fowler — 21 Sep 2000 12:00:00 GMT

John Pharris Cruce,( my gg-grandfather)
John Cruce was an officer in the KKK somewhere in Alabama in the late 1870's. After the war during Reconstuction the Law men were all Yankee's and the local sheriff framed John Cruce for the murder of a woman that John and his family knew. In the shoot-out John killed the deputy and escaped. The Alabama KKK got the word out to other members of the KKK in other states and John was furnished places to stay and fresh horse's through the states of Alabama, Mississippi,Arkansas and into the OK.Indian Ter.

He soon moved back into western Ark. changed his name to John Laneer and sent for his wife and children,mother-inlaw and a negro lady who was a nanny. They took a train to Johnson County Ark. His wife was Nancy Green and her mother was Bensia Ann Green,father was Shadrack L. Green.

In 1975 one of the Laneer decendants who lived out in Colorado stopped here in Johnson County to speak with my grandfather Joseph Stallings who remembered his grandfather John (Cruce)Laneer well. The man had a copy of the Wanted poster for John Cruce but he didn't leave us with a copy and I have no way of knowing where to search for a copy. Could anyone out there help me out in showing me how to go about finding a copy for myself?

PS John was never caught and died a free man in 1913.

Please e-mail me direct if you can and thankyou very very much.
Neal Fowler

James gang

Virginia Welding — 2 Nov 2000 12:00:00 GMT

I have always been told I am distantly related to the famous(infamous) Jesse James. MY grandmother was Harriet Rebecca James m John M. Anderson. She was from Webster co. Mo.I'd appreciate any info even remotely connected. Thanks to everyone

Lankford Brothers

Christine Riehman — 1 Jun 2006 9:14:57 GMT

I am a new member, duly qualified by virtue of my grandfather's and his brothers' lives of crime. My grandfather was Wilford J. Lankford and his brothers, Arthur, Claud(e), and Caton (aka Clarence) Lankford (sometimes known as Langford).

The Lankford brothers began their lives of crime as young men in the early 1900's in and around the Missouri and Illinois areas. Eventually, they all served time in the slammer. My great-uncle Caton is said to have been a genius or near-genius and is said to have taught the children of prison personnel, as well as foreign diplomats, foreign languages, etc. (He served his time in Joliet.)

Owing to divorce and their lives of crime, the Lankfords were estranged from my family. If there is anyone out there who knows of my great-uncles and any wives or children they may have had, I would so appreciate any information anyone could give.

Thank you.

Latham

Vera — 21 Jun 2006 6:08:11 GMT

Would anyone know of the Latham line, Thomas Jefferson (jeff) Latham. Born in Hughes Springs, Cass County, Texas around 1883-4. Married Ruby Ella Owens Latham. Lived in the country outside of Vivian, Louisiana
Had four children: Marie Ella Latham Powell, Cleve Ray Latham, Allie Mae Latham, Chiles and baby girl, Lucille that died in infancy.
I have searched for our grandfather, Thomas Jefferson (Jeff) Latham for many years with no luck. I cannot find anything on him past the 1920 census. He walked out on his wife and children, the children were very young, never to be heard from again. any information or suggestions would be appreciated greatly. I have hit the famous "brick wall."
Thank you.
vjpowell@cox.net

Two more BS in the family

imzadi143 — 22 Jun 2006 7:13:15 GMT

Besides Boss Buck I have two more to add:

#1 James Milton Shafer (my dad):
FROM OHIO STATE REFORMATORY HISTORICAL CONDUCT RECORD
July 8, 1918 - Feb 21, 1919.

Two days before his 18th birthday James was arrested in Cambridge, Ohio on July 24, 1917 on charges of larceny after stealing a lot of brass valued at $40.00 from the C & M Railway. James pleaded guilty. His inmate# was10671
During his crime was with inmate #10672.
Paroled: Nov 13, 1918 (parole#11734)
Released: March 10, 1921.

#2 Thomas Davis (my paternal great-grandfather)
FROM THE CAMBRIDGE JEFFERSONIAN
September 17, 1891

C. L. McCulley, for some time past has observed that some person was taking goods from his grocery and wareroom on Steubenville Street. Accordingly he set a special watchman to see how it was done, and who did it. Deputy Marshal Brookman Scott was the watchman and on last Friday night he saw a man enter the wareroom. He followed and after a hard scuffle in which he was considerably scratched and after inglicting a flesh wound upon his antagonist he captured a man, who proved to be Thomas Davis, a plasterer, and citizen of Cambridge, who had always before owned the reputation of an honest, industrious man. He is afflicted with Asthma and not always able to work. He was a poor man with a large family to support. Davis is in jail, awaiting the action of the grand jury.

Theodore Cruwys

paulinecruwys — 11 Jan 2007 6:34:23 GMT

My Grandfather 'jumped ship' in America in 1935/36 leaving a wife and 2 children and never came home. My dad would love to know anything about his life in America. We know he died in New York in the'60s. Any snippet would be great!

Jack Naranzetta

PhyllisLeedom75 — 23 Dec 2003 8:26:20 GMT

Still searching for Jack Naranzetta who married my grandfather's sister Ethel Hart, May 20, 1912. According to the marriage application he was born June 25, 1880 in Montana. His father was Harry Naranzetta from Dakota Territory and his mother was Josephine Shaunbackler of Berlin, Germany. At the time of their son's marriage in Indianapolis, IN they both were still alive and lived in Montana.

Both Jack & Ethel were in the circus and Wild West Shows (possibly 101 Ranch). Ethel divorced Jack June 21, 1927 in Anderson, Madison Co. IN

Eviidently Jack was a Native American. Would like to know what tribe?

Old newspaper clippings

CathySisson — 18 Dec 2004 9:53:07 GMT

I have a dilemma -- while researching old newspapers I began saving old newspaper clippings -- even the ones that didn't pertain to my family -- in the hope that they might help someone else. The clippings are varied and deal with events as well as people. There are definitely some black sheep in there, but a lot of others as well. I've contacted some of the state/county specific websites about posting them, but unless they are VERY name/location specific, they aren't wanted. Does anyone have any ideas as to where I might be able to post these old clippings where they'll have the best chance of being seen by the masses? Any ideas would be welcome. I just really hate to see these go to waste without the opportunity of being "found."

Looking for information

mitchner53 — 23 Jun 2001 1:00:07 GMT

I am looking for information on my late father-in-law's 1st cousin, James C. Lucas prisoner #224 incarcerated on Alcatraz during the 1930's. He stabbed Al Capone with some shears and during his attempted escape he along with 2 other men, killed a guard. I would like to find out as much as I can about Lucas. Where can I find old records? Does anyone have a clue? Thanks in advance.

Lloyd Roscoe Hicks

carlagray777 — 21 Apr 2006 3:36:32 GMT

Looking for info. as to why he was in Prison in the late 20's early 30's. (robbery) He was married to Ethel Dunlap they live in Fulton Co. or Calhoun Co. in Mi.....he was born 7-9-1903 in Indiana. Thank you, Carla (Hicks) Gray
grandaughter

Prison Records

Sunny — 22 Apr 2006 2:12:50 GMT

I found out by accident looking at local newspaper archives that my dad was in the Ohio State Reformatory (Shawshank prison). I had no idea what for so I wrote the Ohio Historical Society and they sent me photocopies of all his prison records. They are an excellent source of family info not just prisoner. Mine included lots of info on the family members you wouldn't see nowadays i.e. if they were addicts and if so what substance, medical history info etc.

Joseph Coughlin / Margaret Kelly

EileenCoughlin75 — 25 Mar 2006 3:24:27 GMT

Looking for family of our grandfather
Joseph Coughlin He must have family some where.
Said he was from Athlone Ierland Married his 2nd wife in 1921 in NY My father name was John His sister was Nora
Joseph worked in Brooklyn (RED Hook)
He our Brick wall for years Thank You
Eileen

Eliza Stroud 1860's Who and Where is her Father.

red515 — 25 Aug 2001 7:16:41 GMT

Eliza Stroud was born 1861.Married General Marion Ayers February 21, 1877, in Sevier Co., Arkansas. I am looking for her parents.

Family story is this. Eliza's mother was mostly Irish. Not sure of the nationality of her father. He was described as tall, dark, black headed, wearing a black mustache. He had gone to serve in the Civil War as a confederate soldier. He was in the war for four years.

Ther wasn't much mail during the war years and very little mail service for several years after the war. The men that went with him to join the war efforts had survived the brutalities of the war and he talked them into telling his wife that he had not survived therefor would not be returning. However, about four years later he did come back very much alive.

During this time, 8 years, his wife had remarried and was now the wife of Jim James's grandfather. Eliza was a young girl and did not remember much about her father before he had gone to war, but she said that one morning a man rode up to the yard gate one day and hollered hello. Eliza went to the door but did not know who he was, she told her mother she did not know the man. When her mother went to the door and realized who it was she threw her hands up over her face and screamed and then started crying as if she were crying over a coffin, all of this without saying a word. He spent the night in their barn and left early the next morning.

As he rode off they noticed that he was wearing a gun, however this was not that unusual for men in those days.

If you know anything of this family I would greatly appreciate hearing from you.

Ellen GRAY Robinson, MS

Maternal Ancestor Line:
AYERS, BRIDGES, BOX, BRUMLEY, DACUS, DAVIS, EVERETT,
HENDERSON, LITCHFORD, MATHIS, McRAE, MILES, MILLER,
MORGAN, NEWELL, PETTIGREW, PICKETT, PULLEN, REES,
STOTT, STROUD, STUART, TURNER

Paternal Ancestor Line:
GRAY, HOOKER, HUBBARD, McCULLER, OTT, WOODRUFF

A Broderbund "Family Tree Maker" User

Montana Outlaws, ca 1860s

zonie2 — 19 Feb 2006 4:14:19 GMT

Accounts of Montana Outlaws are included in "Dimsdale Vigilantes", Montana History--Bannack & Virginia City, MT.
http://www.yanoun.org/mont_vigi/dimsdale/textbody.html

Names, Places and Dates of Execution

George Ives, Nevada City, Dec. 21st, 18638; Erastus Yager (Red) and G. W. Brown, Stinkingwater Valley, January 4th, 1864;
Henry Plummer, Ned Ray and Buck Stinson, Bannack City, January 10th, 1864;
George Lane (Club-foot George), Frank Parish, Haze Lyons, Jack Gallaghar and Boone Helm, Virginia City, January 14th, 1864;
Steven Marsland, Big Hole Ranch, January 16th, 1864; William Bunton, Deer Lodge Valley,,January 19th, 1864;
Cyrus Skinner, Alexander Carter and John Cooper, Hell Gate, January 25th, 1864;
George Shears, Frenchtown, January 24th, 1864;
Robert Zachary, Hell Gate, January 25th, 1864;
William Graves alias Whiskey Bill, Fort Owens, January 26th, 1864;
William Hunter, Gallatin Valley, February 3d, 1864;
John Wagoner (Dutch John) and Joe Pizanthia, Bannack City, January 11th, 1864
Also:
"Captain" J.A. Slade
John Dolan--aka John Coyle, aka "Hard Hat"
R.C. Rawley, John Keene
Jake Sylvie aka Jake Seachriest
Aleck Carter
James Daniels

Carr family of Silver Point, Putnam County, TN

Will Smith — 15 Nov 1999 12:00:00 GMT

Anyone researching the George Carr family of Silver Point, Putnam County, TN? ol' George was a bootlegger and made whiskey with my granduncle, Andrew Rice back in the '30's and '40s.

Qualification Request

Jane Power — 20 Dec 2005 7:11:00 GMT

I have three ancestors who might qualify as "Black Sheep" --

George W. Routt (g-g gf) was murdered in 1874 by Achilles Brown in IL. Mr. Brown was convinced Dr. Routt was philandering with his wife. After researching Dr. Routt's life, I met a "cousin" who is not sure his ancestry is Brown or Routt as the community still carries the thought Dr. Routt "played around" and "withheld medicine for female favors"!

I have two ancestresses accused of witchcraft. One, Mary Sanford, was hung. The other, Mary Parsons, was accused and acquitted in Boston after representing herself.

Your Society is very interesting to me and I look forward to your response,

Jane Routt Power
President General, Associated Daughters of Early American Witches

Lucinda Vinson/Vincent

ElizabethSmith10 — 17 Nov 2005 3:36:51 GMT

I am trying to find whether my 3g grandmother, Lucinda was born a Vinson/Vincent and did not marry (although she should have), or if she married one and was divorced. She was bornin Little Creek, DE, circa 1804, and died in Barren Creek between 1860 and 1870. There appears to be a close connection between her and Ephraim Vinson/Vincent, also born in Little Creek and died in Barren Creek. The first marriage I find for him is in 1837, but in the 1830 census he had a female and two males under 5 (possibly Lucinda and her two oldest children, George M. born 1828 and Perry M.born 1829/30). In 1840 he still had the two boys, his new wife and her daughter, but the other female is not there. In 1850, George and Perry are with Lucinda, and Ephraim has no males in his household who are the ages of the two he had in 1840. There is no record for Ephraim marrying prior to 1837, and no record for anyone named anything like Lucinda marrying anyone with the surname of Vinson/Vincent (they couldn't spell). Any ideas?

8th cousin!

Marian Alvis — 2 Oct 1999 12:00:00 GMT

I just found some information on the internet. You will
never guess what I found! George A. Custer!

YES, GEORGE ARMSTRONG CUSTER. I have always heard we were
related to the Custers thru the Ball family.

Anyone out there related to the Custer Family?

I am not sure he is a black sheep, but he is sure famous!

William Neville Hamilton, England, 1889

jadannay — 4 Sep 2005 6:23:05 GMT

My great great great grandfather, William Neville Hamilton (b. abt. 1854), is listed on the Black Sheep Index (http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/BSINOTES.htm), with the event occurring on 1889. He does not appear on the 1891 census with the rest of his family--his wife, Caroline, is listed as the head of household at this time--but reappears for the 1901 census. I am trying to figure out what happened for him to be on the BSI and to not appear in the 1891 census. He was living in Kensington (MDX, England) in 1889 (and for many years before and after). As I am in the U.S., I am having difficulty tracking down this information, and I was hoping someone could suggest a new approach.

Thanks,
Jill

Fischer Family in LaMoure North Dakota

Peaches4274 — 26 Jun 2005 3:04:31 GMT

I am looking for any family members related to the Fischers of LaMoure North Dakota. I am the great grand daughter of Herman and Edith Fischer. My name is Kerry Beth Fischer Terry, my father is James Joseph Fischer. I can be reached at Peaches4274@aol.com or KerryTerry4274@aol.com

Thank you in advance,
Kerry Beth

sidney lewellen

DonaldSanford91 — 3 Jul 2005 1:32:19 GMT

are you sure he didn't have 7 kids?

Barrington, NH scandal?

RuthWLeathers — 27 Mar 2006 8:49:58 GMT

It seems that sometime during the time period of the later 1700's there were Leathers individuals in Barrington, NH, whose behavior was such that several of that name changed their surnames to Walker, Tyler, Freeman, etc. I would appreciate tips as to how to find out what happened. We may have a 'black sheep' there. A recent correspondent said his grandfather spoke of a murder.

Disowned

heb|MA71137 — 27 Jun 2001 2:29:32 GMT

Helen Mar GALLOWAY, b November 5, 1824 near Dunbarton, Scotland; m William BURGESS in Detroit, MI 1851; d February 11, 1904. Helen's obituary states that she was the last living of 14 but I have located only 3 of her siblings: Walter GALLOWAY who never married and d abt 1881 in Bueno Park, UT; Elizabeth GALLOWAY, b abt 1835/36 near Dunbarton, Scotland; m 1st a LIVINGSTON(E) and had one daughter, Kate, b abt 1853 in ONT, CAN, never married; d March 30, 1915, Kings Mill, Elgin Co., ONT, CAN; m 2nd Joseph STEVENS; Elizabeth d Feb 21, 1892, Kings Mill, Elgin Co., ONT, CAN; and Jane GALLOWAY, b abt 1819 in SCOT; m James ROBB; d July 19, 1894, Spirit Lake, Dickinson Co., IA.
The family story (and I'm beginning to believe it is true) is that Helen Mar was sent to Detroit to live with an aunt because her parents did not approve of the young man she had fallen in love with in the Toronto area. When Helen fell in love with William BURGESS and married him her parents disowned her because William was "just a milkman" (a dairy farmer) and that was not good enough for their daughter. I can find no record of any of the four GALLOWAY siblings in the Toronto area or in Scotland. Clues or suggestions would be appreciated.

Escaped murderer

lhanson1 — 19 Jul 2002 5:45:39 GMT

In 1833, Drury Hafford was accused of killing James Standley in Hopkins County, Kentucky. The two Hafford brothers had quarreled with Standley, and (while working on road clearing), Drury struck Standley with a hoe and killed him. Later, Drury escaped from jail. His brother (who was to appear in Circuit Court as an "accessory") skipped bail. Nothing further was heard of the two, although the sheriffs of Hopkins and adjacent counties were notified to be on the outlook. Where did the Haffords go? Any further information about this event would be appreciated.

Sam Strand

auis4120 — 9 Sep 2002 2:16:12 GMT

I have for years tried to locate the whereabouts of my GGG-grandfather Sam Strand, b. 1826 in Strand parish, Rogaland county, Norway. "Folk i Strand is the "bygdebok", i.e. genealogical records for the parish, and vol. II says the following about him (loose translation):
"Samuel Thorsen Strand, born 1826. He called himself Sam, and was a sailor. In Feb. 1869 he jumped ship in Liverpool and probably went to the US, where his 3 brothers lived. In 1887 his family stated that they had not heard from him in some 10 years and that they didn't know whether he was alive or dead. Rumor has it that he drowned. Local legend also says he was a pirate."
Sam's 3 brothers all originally lived in Illinois, and all served in the US Civil War, 2 with Henshaw's Light Artillery and 1 with 82nd Illinois Infantry. Sam was never married in Norway, but had 2 illegitimate children with two different women. The oldest was my GG-grandfather Cornelius, b.1848.
When I was a little boy (in the late 60's) and got a little wild, older people in the village just used to look at each other and say: "Well, you know, he's one of Sam's", so I guess he might have been a local Black Sheep.
If anyone knows anything about this guy, or have any suggestions, please let me know. He may also have used the name Thompson, as one of his brothers did.

The only source on his affiliation to the US so far except local legend is in a database of "Emigrants over Stavanger Harbour" which lists him as "Sam Strand, born Strand, Norway, son of Thore and Anna Strand. Was a sailor, pirate and drowned

Sincerely,
Stein

asher family & relatives

regina wade — 27 Oct 2004 7:32:09 GMT

any family members or relatives of ruck &ida asher please connect me at tootsie46201@yahoo.com

Searching for Family History

Vanessa — 31 Jan 2000 12:00:00 GMT

I am searching for any information on my history. Noone talkes about it around here so I have to figure it out myself. My dad's parents names are Hershel and Pauline Asher Colwell, my mom's dad's name was Wiley Grubbs. My grandfather's parents were Bendrew and Mallie Campbell Colwell, and my grandmother's parents were Ruck and Ida Asher. My grandmother's grandparents were Bill and Martha Begely. I know I have family here in Kentucky and some in Marion Indiana, that is all I know for now. I would appreciate any help I can get. Thanks

Who was behind "Tyron's Raid" and "Putnam's Ride" CT R-War trivia

R_mesnard — 13 Nov 2006 8:31:58 GMT

Jacob Uriah Edwards

Esther Moore — 16 Apr 2003 1:44:59 GMT

My ancestor, Jacob Uriah Edwards was said to have shipwrecked off the coast of Hobucken (hoboken) North Carolina in the early 1700's. He married a girl from Beaufort Co. NC and the family stayed in the area for the next 200 years. I am having a difficult time finding information about early shipwreckes in North Carolina.
Does anyone have a site or book I can further my research?

Elio Orfeo Cenci

gopgal21 — 15 Aug 2002 1:37:26 GMT

I have a feeling that my grandfather, Elio Orfeo Cenci, may have been a black sheep. Any one with any info, please, I am getting desperate.

Henry Wilson, Scotland to Ont. 1870's, railroad man

unihorne — 2 Feb 2005 5:18:19 GMT

Since my lst query, I have found that my ancestor Henry Wilson emigrated from Scotland at the beginning of the railroad in Canada, and worked in the Toronto Area.

Thank you for your reply. I hope you find your Henry Wilson's descendants.

Henry Wilson of Ireland to Scarborough, Ont. Canada, abt.1900

CarolTrollope72 — 25 Dec 2001 4:31:50 GMT

Henry Wilson had a bullet hole in his leg, which he cleaned and dressed every day. Looking for descendants or ancestors or siblings who can help.

Is someone missing a black sheep named Nathan or Nathaniel S. Brown from TN??

BobbiDunn62 — 14 Nov 2005 4:51:25 GMT

My gggrandfather went by the name N.B. Smith and N.S.B. Smith, the story goes he changed his name (we believe by adding the Smith to his name) to avoid being arrested for a murder he committed in Knoxville, TN. I know he lived on a plantation there and had at least one brother, and was born 1-10-1852 in TN. After the murder which we know would have happened before 1879 he moved to Arkansas, married Emily Bachelor. She passed within a few short years of the marriage and he married Francis Pearlee Thompson in Mena Arkansas, then moved to Daisy OK with Francis and her family and remained in Ok til his death. We know the murder had something to do with gambling, but have not been able to find the case file or find out who was wanted for the murder to verify his real name and possibly find out more about his family. He would tell no one anything, no one knew his mother's name and he said his dad was John Smith, which we knew Smith was not his birth name. Severel clues lead us to believe that Brown was his given last name and if Nathan wasn't his first name the initials were probably N.S. Brown. If anyone has any ideas we would love to hear it.

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Missing Grandfather

Howard Stalker — 15 Aug 2000 12:00:00 GMT

My Grandfather is by means of my fathers birth certificate, William H. Stalker, or by the 1910 Census for Iowa, William F. Stalker. In either case he was Married to my Great Grandmother, Bessie Buker, and had an incestuous relationship with her daughter from a previous marriage(my grandmother), Gladys Beebe. These are the only two reference I have to this point been able to find on William Stalker. Someone Please help! He was born about 1873 supposedly in Iowa, and disappeared shortly after all this took place.

Beverly Dickerson

Moutrey — 17 Nov 2006 12:51:00 GMT

The Beverly James Dickerson in my tree, b. abt 1820 was the son on Beverly James Dickerson and Nancy Jane Watts. Probably born in KY, he lived with his family in Washington Co., KY until before 1860 then became a tavern keeper in Jefferson Co., KY (see 1860 census). He died in about 1863 in Illinois, killed probably because he was a rebel. His wife was Martha and he had numerous children, some of which may have gone to Howard Co., MO. I'm interested in sharing information on the Dickersons.

beverly dickerson (dickenson)

barb — 2 Mar 2003 4:54:05 GMT

beverly dickerson was born 1819 in virginia and died 1907 in ky he was said to have killed someone and fled to ky and was then arrested and sent back to vir where he was given a choise to either go to jail or server in the civil war. he chose the later after the war he and his family moved back to kentucky. i have some information on him but non on his wife fanny self aka fanny taude b 1824 d 1929. any help to validate this story and to help me find info on fanny would be appreciated.

ezekiel young/bigamist

kathy moran — 28 Oct 2001 12:13:47 GMT

ezekiel YOUNG was born in Grayson Co., VA in 1840. he served in 51st VA inf. in the Civil War. After the war he married Elizabeth PHIPPS but by 1870 he is missing from the VA census; Eliz. is living with her parents and daughter.
I have found no divorce on record but did find Eliz. Confederate pension application, which states her husband died in Kansas City, date not stated.

My grt-grdf is also ezekiel YOUNG aka as e.e. or e. YOUNG who moved to MO around 1875, married Olive Sweaney of Jackson Co. MO, had one son Edward Lee YOUNG. He was a veternarian in private practice but he also worked for the Holmes Brothers transporation serve in KC. He died in 1897.

From research it appears these ezekiels are actually one and the same, making my grandfather a bigamist. Does anyone know about this man and where he may have been between the time he left VA and settled in MO?

Andrew Henry Saucier (AKA Henry Marvin Saucier

Ann Geoghegan,IBSSG (1 so far!) — 1 Sep 2000 12:00:00 GMT

Andrew Henry Saucier, born 17 May, 1871, the son of Henri Severin Saucier and Elizabeth Tanner Saucier of Hancock County, MS. Apparently this fine upstanding citizen, direct descendant of one of the founding fathers of the State of MS ( Jean Baptiste Saucier, Born 4 Dec, 1674, who landed at Biloxi with D'Iberville in 1699) got in a fight with a man and thought he killed him. He promptlyskedaddled to the State of Louisiana leaving behind in MS a wife and two children. When he got to LA, changed hi name to Henry Marvin Saucier and he married again (without benefit of divorce) and proceeded to father 9 more children, the oldestof which is my grandfather Joseph Henry Saucier, Sr., born 29 December, 1900. When he was about 80 years old, he finally told my Grandfather about his other wife and children. My Grandfather took him back to MS to visit with his children, his first wife had died in the interim, and discovered that the tale was TRUE except that the other fellow in the fight DID NOT DIE! If he had just hung around for a few days, he would have found that out! So, on the one hand he's NOT a murderer but the old scoundrel did go on to father NINE illegitimate children who had no idea they were illegitimate! I was about 9 years old when he died in 1958, and I remember he was very closed-mouthed. Wonder why???!!!

BlackSheep-L how do I subsribe

VincentAcosta — 1 Jan 2004 10:39:44 GMT

how do i subcribe to this list and search its arcives
is ther more than one

Charles Arthur Floyd "Pretty Boy"

Tracy Frank Howell — 17 Dec 2003 12:01:20 GMT

Just found some new info.PrettyBoy's father was Walter Lee Floyd b.1878. His mother:Mamie Helena Echols Floyd b.1881. Married 12-19-97..Had 6 children. (Have their names if you want to e-mail me:ravenwoodmountain@earthlink.net)Mamies parents were Elmer Wilton Echols and Emma (Gaines )Echols. They had 7 children. One(Forest)was killed in a mine explosion, in McCurtain,OK, age 29.

Pretty Boy Floyd

Jamie — 7 Jul 2000 12:00:00 GMT

If anyone is related to Pretty Boy Floyd please contact me...

Thanks Jamie
SpareRibAz@aol.com

Missing Uncle - possible Black Sheep?

Irene Paulton — 4 Apr 2001 12:00:00 GMT

I have been trying to trace my husband's uncle, John Henry Paulton, but with no joy - I have come up against a brick wall.

John Henry was born in 1907 in Aston, Birmingham, England and was the elder of 2 children (his younger brother, Bertram Alfred, was born in 1909 and was my father-in-law).

As I understand it, John Henry had a quarrel with the rest of the family and disappeared from the family home around 1930. The rest of the family refused to have his name mentioned in the house and this was carried through right up until 1990 when his younger brother died.

My husband was baptised in 1949 and we are pretty sure that a picture we have includes John Henry. This would fit in with the fact that his mother was dying and he might well have been allowed to see her before she died. After this he disappears from the face of the earth.

All the indexes for deaths and marriages for the UK have been searched from 1923 to 1998 but there is no trace. My only other lead is that he MAY have emigrated but to where and from where I have no idea.

I really would like to find out what happened to him. Neither my husband or I have any idea and we have no argument with him, so it would be good to make contact and, perhaps, find a lost part of the family (the rest is traced back to 1680).

One Of The Many Secrets of Cutine L. Taylor of Washington State

Ginger — 26 Oct 2003 7:13:06 GMT

My birth father had secrets. View my homepage below to find the secrets.

http://www.geocities.com/cutine_taylor_dead_beat_dad

Grandfather Missing-US Army Aircorps has no record

PenolopeG — 14 Feb 2003 1:30:07 GMT

Where did Irma Jack Medley fly off to? He was born in Buffalo Valley,Putnam Co.,TN on 24 Sept 1899, married my grandmother, fathered my mother, left the Navy and left both of them in MO. His last letter was from Ft. Sam Houston,TX with photos of some of his missions he was flying for the 12th Observation Squadron in 1927--also a couple of plane accidents. He was to have gone to his mother's family in Paden,OK and married an old sweetheart and had a son-Jack.

Divorce papers were never found and after 30 years of searching, he and his resting place are still missing. I have gone through a dozen military offices and they have no records and will not comment on my photos. I have a box of his photos that were sent to my grandmother in a trunk in the 1928-29's to NM.

Any suggestion to get the FAA-Army Air Corp to break their scilence would be welcome.

Howard Thomas Yemm

Rosemary — 17 Feb 2003 3:34:20 GMT

Howard Yemm was born 2 February 1891 in Countesthorpe, Leicestershire ,England. He had a criminal record and was privately shipped to Australia after robbing a church box and spending the money on gambling. He sailed from London on the 'Thermistocles' and arrived in Albany, Western Australia on 12 Aug 1920. He is believed to have been in prison in Australia and also to have married a lady called Lily Lamb.
Does anyone know any more this 'black sheep'?

JOSEPHUS NELSON my family- skeleton-in-the-closet

gswain — 20 Sep 2003 7:00:22 GMT

Josephus Nelson is my great-great grandfather who married his 2nd cousin Esther Eliza Nelson. He was 'addicted to the habit of intemperance' and tried several times to kill his wife and once his two children. Only evidence I found of a second child was in Letters of Affidavit re: Esther's divorce by Act of General Assembly in 1834-35. No evidence as to sex of this second child, an infant, just called 'infant' in those letters.
Eldest child was Joseph and only surviving child of this marriage. Josephus never paid his bills, was put in jail for a $3.50 IOU and still nothing paid until after his death in August 1837. He wrote a Deed of Trust in 1834 and 1834 to his sister Henrietta Sparrow and her son-in-law Oliver S Dewey for money to pay his debts. Henrietta ended up with his plantation and Oliver Dewey all the rest of the Nelson land. Nothing left for son Joseph. Would love to find Dewey descendants, and also other Sparrow descendants. Josephus' plantation home now "Blackwell Point" house in Oriental, Pamlico Co. NC.

Anyan, Anderson, Jeter, Wray/Ray, Williams

Melissa sansoucie — 19 Sep 2003 10:06:34 GMT

I have several black sheep .... anyone have any connection to the above surnames?

MY GRANDMA WAS A" SHADY LADY "TOO,IN U.K.

GAYLE — 25 Jun 2003 3:55:01 GMT

HELLO; I AM TRYING TO FIND MY G.G.ALSO.SHE LIVED IN IRELAND AND ENGLAND WHERE SHE WAS BORN AROUND 1870.SHE HAD MY GRAMPA UNWED IN CORK,IRELAND,APRIL 26,1887. SHE THEN WENT BACK TO ENGLAND AT SOME POINT. SHE LEFT GRAMPA WITH A FRIEND,BUT NEVER CAME BACK.HE CAME TO CANADA IN 1902,A BARNARDO ORPHAN.I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR 3 YEARS TO TRACE MINNIE HADLEY,BUT TO NO AVAIL.SHE IS ONE OF THREE IN THE ARCHIVES I BELEIVE,BASED ON AGE,AND TIME, BUT TO FIND HER DEATH RECORD IS PROVING IMPOSSIBLE, BECAUSE I HAVE TO FIND THE MINNIE WHO GAVE BIRTH TO GRAMPA.SOMEONE IN THE REGION OF BIRMINGHAM,MUST KNOW SOMETHING.SHE DID HAVE SIBLINGS WHO GREW UP,AND THE HADLEYS' CARRIED ON.WHERE ARE YOU HADLEYS?????.COME FORTH AND HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. REGARDS FROM GAYLE HADLEY ,FROM CANADA.

North Carolina Murders Before 1900 mailing list

Leah C. Sims — 10 Jun 2003 4:14:20 GMT

Hello,
If you are interested in finding or posting information about a murder that happened in NC prior to 1900, visit the following page to subscribe to the mailing list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthCarolinaMurders/
Leah

Proposed closing of Florida Library Archives

Rosemary Nagy — 13 Feb 2003 8:22:51 GMT

Identity theft is a poor excuse to shut down libraries and archives. I work in the funeral industry, I have to warn families to close out credit cards for deceased persons since thieves read the obituaries, then apply for credit in that name before the banks are aware of the death. Should we not have obituaries or should credit card companies do a better job of screening before they issue new cards? If you're really going to steal an idenity, a visit to any cemetery will give you lots of names and dates. Just how paranoid are we to become?

Atlanta Federal Prison records for late 1800s: How to find

MaxLaw718 — 14 Apr 2004 4:05:58 GMT

Oral history states that my great-grandfather P.G. (Patillo Golightly) MAHAFFEE, I am sad to admit, did time in the federal prison in Atlanta after the Civil War. The charge, my Dad told me years ago, was lynching. What I would
like to get my hands on are the records of the federal prison, which I would hope had the ancestors and other useful information....Anyone have any idea??

My great-grandfather was born in South Carolina in 1845 and died in Rutherford County, NC in 1935. I posted a photo of him and a photo of his grave and that of his wife Rose A. (Brown) MAHAFFEE on the website www.findagrave.com

Max G. Mahaffee
Charleston, SC

Pleasant (Plesent) Webb

Larry Loiselle — 2 Jun 2003 4:11:19 GMT

I am seeking any additional information that you can provide about the parents/siblings of Pleasant Webb. Thanks a million.
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Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB was born about ca 1760-1765. His son, Elias, said that his father, Pleasant was born in Ireland (not substantiated). He died between 1830 and 1840 in Ohio, USA. Around 1800 Pleasant and family came in to the Ohio valley from Rutherford County, North Carolina. In 1803 (reported to be 45 years old) he was in Scioto County, Ohio and was said to be a notorious character. Supposedly, he tried to break up a fight between James Bradley and the wife and children of James Quire (Squires). He ended up shooting Mr. Quire (Squires). After this incident at the Licks, he was driven out of that area. He is also said to have been a Tory during the Revolutionary War. Pleasant was in GreenupCounty, Kentucky in 1820 and in Lawrence County, Ohio in 1830, he did not appear in the 1840 census, so it is believed he died between 1830-1840. Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB and Unknown (Margaret BLACKWELL?) had the following children: James WEBB (1786), Elias WEBB (1788), Thomas Hanley WEBB (1795), Aden WEBB (1797), Temperance WEBB (1799), William WEBB (1801), Margaret WEBB (1806), Sarah (Sally) WEBB (1809), and Baker WEBB (1811).

Larry D. Loiselle
19967 Blake Manor Rd
Manor, Texas 78653
(512) 272-5770
larry_loiselle@hotmail.com

Dillard Willoughby

GalePrinceNash — 2 Mar 2005 2:27:40 GMT

I am trying to find out when and where Dillard WILLOUGHBY died and if there are decendents.

Dillard was born December 17, 1891 in Alexandria, DeKalb County, TN. As a young man he got into trouble, robbery of some sort and spent time in a prison in TN. At a later time my grandmother's aunt got a letter from a prison warden wanting to get permission for Dillard to write to her. She didn't agree to give permission and her daughter wasn't sure of what prison it was but thought perhaps one in Michigan. I have pictures of Dillard and his wife Mary (surname unknown). My grandmother said they were not married. Dillard was living in the 1950's as my grandmother had gotten a letter from him. Have searched for information on him for a long while. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Theodore F. Schumacher

KatherineTHake — 26 May 2003 11:31:43 GMT

I am trying to find out any information that I can about Theodore F. Schumacher. He was born in Washington,DC between 1886 and 1887. His parents were Antoinette and Theodore Schumacher. Theodore Schumacher senior committed suicide in front of young Theodore F.
Theodore F. was a scoundrel, cad, and possibly a bigamist. In 1920 census information he is listed as married to 2 women at the same time. He is listed with his wife Margaret, their child, and his father-in-law at said father-in-law's DC house. He is also listed as a boarder with his wife Mildred in a house in Baltimore.
We know he was legally married to Margaret and later divorced from her. However, no marriage record to Mildred has surfaced.
Later that year, Mildred gave birth to their daughter. No record available.
He packed the family, (Mildred and baby), and moved to Buffalo, NY area. At some point in the next few years he abandoned Mildred and the little one.Efforts to track him down were fruitless.
Family "info" says that he was married at least 3 times.That he might have served in WWI. And that he was a cook. That he had a restaurant in the San Diego area. And that he died in California. When and where?
His mother's obituary did not list him with her children. He was still living at the time. His siblings had not forgiven him for his misdeeds. (Which ones they were upset about is anyone's guess)
Mildred's child had contact with him when she became an adult sometime in the mid 1940's. She was disappointed with the encounter.
Does this black sheep ring a bell with anyone?
Would love to piece together more about him since he is my son's great grandfather. Thanks.

gouge

pat — 2 May 2003 3:07:49 GMT

I am looking for any information about an allie geneva gouge b.1893. her father was john wilson gouge b.1861 and his father was james anderson gouge b. 1826.

YOUNGER GANG

LindaUnknown72 — 15 May 2003 7:02:58 GMT

HELLO WAS TOLD BY SEVERAL REALIVTIES THAT I HAD A CONCETION WITH THE YOUNGER GANG ANY INFO ON THEM WOULD BE HELPFUL THANK YOU L

names I'm researching

Rosemary Nagy — 28 Apr 2003 12:12:37 GMT

I'm still at a dead end with my blacksheep, John MaGuire, born 1875, New York State, lived in Paterson, NJ. He was murdered 1930, possibly in Pa. Also researching Devlin (Donegal, Ireland), McKay (Belfast), McCall (Georgia to Florida, 1845), White (Florida 1860)
Nagy (Pa to NJ) O"Haus (Hungary to NJ)

Request from Novelist!

Fiona Mountain — 8 May 2002 3:31:49 GMT

I wonder if any BlackSheep members would be able to help me! I am a novelsist and my second book, PALE AS THE DEAD, is being putlished in the UK in the summer. It is a mystery novel which features a genealogist as the main character. I have been asked to write articels for magazines focusing on people who have discovered criminal ancestors, how they feel about this and how it has affected them/their lives. If any one has any stories they would be willing to contribute, I woudl be delighted to offer a signed copy of the book in return for any that get used.
Kindest regards,
Fiona Mountain

witchcraft and murder in PA 1920's& 1930's

Dawn Sizer — 23 Apr 2003 3:42:44 GMT

I'm looking for anyone with info on Marshal Steele, he was a Pow-Wow practitioner and according to family story shot and killed his son Samuel's fiance, he mistook the young lady for his wife Janet, whom he was attempting to kill. I don't know the date, but would have been late 1920's to mid 1930's. This took place in Bedford County, PA. The murder trial took place in Cumberland, MD...or so I was told. Marshal was aquitted.

heflin

barb — 2 Mar 2003 4:56:22 GMT

my grandfather clyde heflin b 1892 d 1928 lived in kentucky it is said that he was killed in jail. need to know why he was jailed and the circumstances around his death.barb

Kentucky Prisoner

Michele — 24 Oct 2000 12:00:00 GMT

I am trying to find the records of a female relative who was sent to a prison or institution for killing her husband in Kentucky in the early 1900's. She supposedly died there and the family did not claim the body. If anyone has suggestions on how to contact an agency, I'd really appreciate the leads. This is in reference to Columbia Harman Howard who killed her husband Jackson Howard in Martin County, Kentucky.

Harvey/Hicklin

Carole — 28 Feb 2003 11:38:03 GMT

Robert Harvey b. 1869 Derbyshire UK married my gt.grandmother in 1901 [he was considerably younger than her] It was her second marriage. Between 1909 and 1914 Robert ran off to America with Clara Hicklin, his wife's daughter by her first marriage. If of any interest do plesae contact me.

trying to help

rowdy56 — 26 Mar 2003 1:54:19 GMT

Wow did I just lose my message? Real glitch.
Anyway - have a local rural cemetery undocumented essentially and will do so andsubmit if I know format, SOP etc. Anyone listeneing? Let me know how to help????.

whatever happened to

S. Thacker — 7 Jul 2000 12:00:00 GMT

Looking for whatever happened to Kelly Stabback, B.in late 1800's in Canada. Disappeared. Rumour has it that he was involved in a bank robbery in the Dakotas.

kelly stabback

jstabback — 17 Feb 2003 10:57:20 GMT

to the person who was looking for information on kelly stabback, if you contact me i may be able to help a bit, (probably not much)

Gr-Grandma Was A "Shady Lady"!

rharris143 — 16 Aug 2004 12:08:16 GMT

Hi!

Great Grandma was 1 of 8 children & I've traced all their whereabouts & descendants - all except for her; the one I descend from. Why? Because, as one uncle put it "she was a shady lady", but I'm sure all that refers to is the birth of her daughter (my grandmother) before she married. And when she did marry, it was to another man. Gr-Grandma was Elizabeth (Liza) McGregor, b. Jan. 14, 1887 in Argyll, Scotland. My grandmother was left to be raised by relatives as Liza married a McArthur & went to live in/near Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Her husband left her, and daughter Margaret, a year later. Liza worked as a housekeeper. She was employed by or was a partner to a Mr. LaRose. Margaret died (1940s) giving birth to a son whom Liza then raised. Liza died aged abt. 90 years, in a nursing home, in the 1970s - I have no idea where she was buried. I also wish I knew what became of her grandson, who would be 60ish now. Thanks for anything.

Mary

ROYCE, SHEPHERD, OSBORNE

Carolyn Royce — 17 Feb 2003 2:51:29 GMT

What must have my people done! I can find no one out there searching the same lines. I am looking for Thomas Joseph Royce born 1873 in Ireland, father's name Thomas. He married Louisa "Lulu" "Lola" Shepherd born 1874ish in Marshall Illinois; father: John Shepherd, mother: Mary Osborne. Please help! Thank you

Grandpa drowned in Indiana, changed name & moved to Iowa

Sharon Robinson — 10 Feb 2003 1:12:29 GMT

can anyone help me.

flee51 — 5 Feb 2003 2:28:04 GMT

I am trying to locate someone who loves doing searches. I am trying to find out all information on the TOMLINSON family from the South Shields area in the U.k., Has anyone any advice for me ? ............. Caloundra, Queensland , Australia.

hodges

DorothySmith7464 — 20 Mar 2003 7:34:05 GMT

Am looking for information on my ggggreatgrandfather John Hodges who left NC for Florida during the revolution He was our family Tory Thanks Dorothy Smith

Im looking for edward crawford

crissy — 16 Jan 2003 4:43:40 GMT

my name is crissy and I am from california, I am 21 years old and I am looking for a man named Edward Crawford, (I called him eddie)....He is my younger brothers father... I have not seen eddie sence I was about 6 years old and my brother was about 3 years old......If any one could help me and tell me how I could find out where eddie is and if he is still alive...I would really appreciate it.........the only thing that I know is that he got 25 years to life.....and that the last spot that he was, was in san quentin prison........thankyou for all of your help.......

Lost Henderson/Wilson

lmj33 — 3 Jul 2001 8:33:27 GMT

Looking for my gggrandfather. My ggrandmother was Alice Wilson, m. Augustus W. Bishop around 1889-90. Her father was Henderson Wilson. Family oral history has it that he was originally Wilson Henderson, but killed a man and moved to FL "for a couple of years", where he changed his name. At some point, he married and moved to Decatur Co., GA (or maybe moved to GA and married), where he raised his family. I can find no record of him or his family in Decatur Co. at all, or Grady or Thomas Counties...(Grady was formed from Decatur and Thomas, abt. 1905. Decatur & Thomas formed around 1824-1827)
Alice, according to my grandfather, was born 8/4/1864 and died in June of 1918. We believe she had at least one sister, Elifair, and possibly 2 brothers, one called "Coot", given name believed to be A. B. According to an uncle, Alice had "at least 2 brothers, and they both named a daughter after her [Alice]".
We have a family photo taken about 1893, of Augustus W. Bishop and Alice Wilson, and all of Augustus' children except the last 3 (Alice was his second wife). Also in the pic are Grandpa Gus' parents, Ephraim and Mary Elizabeth Hukins Bishop, Elifair Wilson, "Kaney" Wilson (I believe this is Canty Wilson, who married "Coot") Gus' brother Ephraim (called "Eef"), a woman who is identified as Alice's mother and called Lottie Wilson, and a man who has been called Alice's father, Henderson Wilson, though it is possible that he is actually her brother (he looks far too young to be her father).
For whatever reason, one of my aunts is absolutely adamant that she will NOT discuss our family history, and she will NOT tell us anything she knows, and she does NOT want to hear what we find out.
Any help would be much appreciated.

thanx for your time
lmj
GenData7@aol.com

G-grndfather Wyatt in Ark.

bjleski — 2 Jan 2003 5:12:57 GMT

Maybe his name was Charlie Wyatt and maybe he did kill his pregnant wife in Faulkner or White County sometime bet. 1877 and 1890 leaving 2 little girls. His wife's name may have been Hogan. There are various tales, something did happen ,that is for sure. He is said to have escaped prosecution, never heard from again but one tale says he married many times and had other children. My grandmother, Mary Eliz. or Mary Nel ,was one child, the other may have been Mattie. My grandmother was an extremely private person and would not speak of her past but did admit the killing happened. No newspaper accts. exist at the historical library in Little Rock. Anyone out there know anything about this Wyatt? Please email me at bjleski@texoma.net

Re: Black Bob

katy finkelman — 19 Sep 2002 7:46:35 GMT

Looking desperately for Black Bob (nickname) incarcerated in Brixton Prison in late 1940's and early 1950's. Are there any websites that may show mugshots of men incarcerated in Brixton Prison at that time? I am looking for my Father and I remember his face very well. If, anyone can help at all please contact me asap. Thankyou.

Benjamin F. Eddings

debbiloney — 26 Jun 2001 11:55:48 GMT

I'm looking for Benjamin F. Eddings born about 1875 in Logan Co. Ky. Hewas an embarrassment to the family because he went from place to place and would stay until they would run him off. He eventually ended upon a county work farm in rutherford co. tenn. i don't know if he died young or thefamily didn't acknowledge him,he wasn't listed as a survivorin my G father's obit in 1947,any help appreciated. Debbi Harris Loney

John Rufus Little Grandpa killed a high Sheriff in S.E. Okla or N.E.Texas

janlittle76 — 9 Jul 2001 9:27:29 GMT

Am looking for information and relatives of John Rufus Little Sr. He was reported to have killed a High Sheriff in S.E. Oklahoma or N.E. Texas over farm forclosure. Little and Martins of the family know what happened but are not forthright about giving out any information on this matter. He is my grandfather. He fled to the hills, is all we know. He married Siney Martin. Every one called his mother Siney, but it may have been Cynthia or Sindy or Cindy or the like. They were both part Cherockees. They both died in the influenza epidemic of 1921 to 1923. Leaving six children. they were not taken in by either the Martin or Little families. Only my father was adopted by the Riley family in Oklahoama City. He has a sister named Pauline Lambert residence unknown. He also had a sisters named Olie and Ruby. Also brothers named Clarence, Felix, and I think the last was Frank (but am not possitive about this last name) I would appreciate any information any one may have about my family. I am despirate to find this information out because my father is 83 years old and I am 55. He has not found any information on his parents. I would like to find them before his death.

looking for missing sypolt son

Sherry_isenbergzefko — 24 Jun 2003 1:09:23 GMT

my son phillip allen stpolt left ft. worth texas 3 yrs. ago and no one has heard anything from him since. if anyone has any info please contact me at blacklanddragon2001@yahoo.com
phillip was born aug 24, 1973
thanks in advance for any info anyone may have.
sincerely worried mother
sherry zefko

Earl Clark

Willard Sypolt — 19 Aug 2000 12:00:00 GMT

A friend is looking for information on her biological grandfather, Earl Clark. She knows he trained at Camp Dawson, WV probably around WWII, that he is from the Baltimore area and if still living would be in his early or mid 80's.

web site

fayepar — 28 Apr 2003 10:35:11 GMT

What is the address for the blacksheep website

I am looking for my sisters father and or family! Jonnie Murphy

Debra — 25 Oct 2002 1:06:11 GMT

Hi! Iam looking for my sisters father and or family.. She was born Mary Ann Murphy Oct. 17, 1958 in Coney Island New York to Jonnie Murphy and Susan Lafferty... He was born 1932 in Strunk Kentucky, and was serving in the Army when he met my mother.. My sister was told he died shorty after she was born and has just recently found out he was alive and married to another woman when he met my mother... we know he has brothers and sisters but have no information on any one other than what is on my sisters birth certificate.. He is half Cherokee.. If any one has any information on him or his family it would be greatly appeciated... Thank You Deb.

SWEDISH OTTUMWA IA PETERSONS

DEE CAIN GRAY — 5 Sep 2002 5:18:43 GMT

DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON PREVIOUS. ROSE PETERSON CONGER WAS BORN IN AMERICA. THE REST IN SWEDEN SOMEPLACE. ELLEN & ASTRID IS GM MAIDEN SISTERS. PARENTS WERE FRANK & EMMA LINDHOLM. HAD A UNCLE HENRY. A WHOLE PASSLE CAME OVER APPOX 1901-1912 TO WORK IN OTTUMWA IA RAILROAD YARDS. ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT @ ELLIS ISLAND SWEDISH SURNAME WAS CHANGED TO PETERSON. SO NO LUCK WITH ELLIS ISLAND SITE. THE FAMILY ATTENDED THE OTTUMWA SWEDISH LUTHERAN CHURCH TILL THE 60'S. RING A BELL FOR ANYONE????

SWEDISH PETERSONS

DEE CAIN — 5 Sep 2002 5:04:47 GMT

MY GM ROSE PETERSON WAS 1ST GEN OFF THE BOAT. HER SISTERS, ASTRID & ELLEN, PARENTS,

"PENNSYLANIA DUTCH" CAIN OUTCAST?

DEE CAIN — 5 Sep 2002 4:57:26 GMT

GGF CAIN WAS CAST OUT? OR LEFT THE MENNONITE/AMISH ORDER IN LATE 1880'S. THIS IS ALL I KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THE NAME IS ORIGINAL OR GIVEN AFTER HE LEFT. NOT A CLUE ON OTHER SITES ABOUT CAINS IN THESE SECTS. FAMILY TRADITION HAS AT ONE ROBERT PER MALE SON. SO HE COULD BE A ROBERT. OR COULD BE A PIERCE? THAT'S MY GGF'S NAME. POSSIBLY FROM IRELAND DURING THE FAMINE. I'M JUST OVERFLOWING WITH INFO ARE'NT I?? ANY CLUES WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

great grandparents

tomandfriends — 27 Jun 2001 9:29:06 GMT

Seeking info on a child born in 1873 probably in Milton, Rock County, to Sarah Jane (Doty-Hurd) Codding. This child was conceived when she ran away with her husband's brother.

Her brother in law was sent to prison in Wisconsin, where this all took place, but pardoned due to illness and the fact that the offended brother refused to press charges and
accepted his wife back into his house even though she "was in an interesting condition."

Once we found this out, it took a while to find out the married couples names (we knew "the brother's name"), and it turned out to be our great grandparents.

Gambling grandfather John Arthur June

FamilyFinder191 — 17 May 2004 9:32:34 GMT

John Arthur June born ? died Feb 1934. Married and divorced Lovina Nixon 1875-1928. They had three children #1 Anns 1884-1913 #2 William Arthur 1896-1970 and #3 Earl 1897-1962. Lovina and all three children lived all the lives in Lenawee Co., Michigan.

I am told that John Arthur was a gambler and moved between Michigan and Ontario, Canada fleeing his gambling debts. He used other names but I do not know the names he might have used. Am told that he is buried somewhere in Ontario, Canada. Am also told that he might have owned/operated a gambling business. John Arthur is my brick wall!! Need any and all info I can get on him!
Thanks, Colleen

McGinness family

McGinness — 5 Aug 2002 1:07:00 GMT

I am in search of a Patrick McGinness. He lived in Wappinger Falls NY. He had twin sons Patrick and Edward.
He was born in Ireland, but we have been unable to find much information about him