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Stephen"Mayflower" Hopkins Lineage Of One Line

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First wife Mary's research from Simon Neal from 2012 . . .

Posted: 8 Dec 2012 4:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Dec 2015 2:01PM GMT

BJHinshaw is right. Commoners commonly didn't have middle names back then. None of the Pilgrims did and only 3 men who signed the Dec. of Indep. We'd have a hard time finding middle names back then for most families.

The current link to Caleb Johnson's page that BJH included (AOL discontined their Lifestream pages) is

Machell didn't work out for first wife Mary's last name. If you haven't seen Caleb Johnson & Simon Neal's latest work on trying to find the family of Stephen's first wife, Mary (probably Kent) see excellent Mayflower Quarterly article (thanks V in NC) from June 2012 by Simon Neal at

with the HUGE (26 pages) detailed back-up appendix (sources) at

There was a Mary Jane Merritt who married a Munsey Hopkins in 1847 or something around there. There was a Mary Merrick who married Stephen Hopkins' grandson. Some people have her marrying Stephen 20 years after he'd died.

See explanation of how most of these mistakes came to be at an abbreviated free GoogleBooks entry from Caleb Johnson's "Here Shall I Die Ashore" at

This is the man who in 1998 organized tracking down the three kids' baptism records and wife Mary's burial and probate records from 1613 in Hursley, Hampshire. See the part about Stephen's parents. His mother wasn't buried in 1594 in London under the name Elizabeth Williams as seen in some trees. (She's not the dau of Morgan Williams and Eliz. Breyton who weren't married to each other. There is no Duglam, Eng. We know how the errors were invented).

Even WIKIPEDIA has him more correct than most of the trees on the internet. .
Note this is NOT WikiTee which is very slowly self-correcting until someone else adds something strange like his half-brother William's marrying either Joana Arnold or Helen Vickaris. No documentation required to submit anything you want at those sites. Sort of like Find-a-Grave.

Don't bother with most files. I've noticed they're usually submitted by people who copy off other websites or who think Millennium File, US & Int'l Marriage Records and Family Data Collection are actual records or documents of some kind.

No known connection between any Hopkins families in
Somerset, England or
Hartford, Connecticut in those generations
to the Mayflower Hampshire family.

I'm also looking for input for revisions to Stephen at
If you've found something new since the last time you read the 3-part series of posts please let us know.

Thanks. Shirley SSBOSCO@AOL.COM
SubjectAuthorDate Posted
klos_1 22 Jan 2003 3:38PM GMT 
BJ Hinshaw 22 Jan 2003 4:29PM GMT 
Pryor_D 17 Nov 2009 11:52PM GMT 
JAN_CORLEY 17 Feb 2012 2:41PM GMT 
ssbosco2 8 Dec 2012 11:41PM GMT 
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