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Subject changed his name often

twhite_cartrefle — 9 Nov 2008 6:25:39 GMT

How do I find my wife's grandfather's true identity (birth certificate) when he changed his name when he liked.

Married her grand mother in Chelsea, England in 1906 under the name of Frank CALDWELL, age 23, Bachelor, Barber Royal Marines, stated his father was William CALDWELL deceased merchant seaman.

Married her grand mother again in Chatham, England in 1909 under the name of Frederick Frank BARR, age 28, Bachelor, Private Royal Marines Light Infantry, stated his father was Frank BARR deceased merchant seaman.

Married his second wife in Chelsea, England in 1945 under the name of Frank BARR, age 62, Widower, Electrician, stated his father was Alfred BARR deceased merchant seaman.

I think he was born in Hull as in 1901 Census of East Stonehouse Barracks, Devon there was a Frederick Frank BARR age 21 b. Yorkshire Hull.

I have also found 1891 census: William Frederick BARR in District Port of Hull Society’s Orphan Home. Sailors Orphan Inmate Age 9 b Lincolnshire, Grimsby.

Can anyone offer any advice or assistance please?”

orphans / orphanages / adoptions, resouces

bjbambi1977 — 15 Aug 2007 3:07:35 GMT

hello, i have info about adoptions, orphans, orphnages,
and mostly australia, some overseas, and a book about Tasmanian orphans,
will do lookups for people,
just email me the names, etc,

from bindi,

bindijohns@yahoo.com.au

how to find orphanage ancestor in census records

kagms — 9 Dec 2003 3:17:51 GMT

Can someone tell me how I would find my ancestor who was in an orphanage - I know the name of the orphanage and have her records - on the census records? I'm having no luck with just her first and maiden name. Any suggestions?

Were you in Nazareth House,Cape Town RSA ???

Sharon Uren — 22 Aug 2006 7:18:37 GMT

Looking for anyone who was ever in Nazareth House, Cape Town, South Africa at any time, but particularly those who were there during 1940's to 1960.

Many children were dumped there and I was one of them. I would like you to contact me if you were one of those "unfortunates".

Thanks
Sharon

Jessie Biggs nee YOUNG, Girls depot Melboune, Australia

ljbiggs — 16 Sep 2005 5:49:16 GMT

Did anyone know or have any information on Jessie Young, placed into the Royal Park Girls Depot 14/12/1922. She was placed in a number of homes in Monbulk, Fairfield, Heildelburg and Princes Hill from 1923 to 1932.

foster parenting in the 1900's?

charlottesmith19 — 31 Oct 2006 1:55:58 GMT

My GrGrGrandmother would take in children who's parents could not care for them. Most parents would eventually come back for the children, one did not and this child would eventually take on the family name. Does anyone know if there are records kept on this kind of fostering? Perhaps records were kept on all the children she once cared for? I would like to add these children's names into our family history.
Thanks

Parramatta Boys Home Sydney Australia, aft. 1918

Jacky Porter — 5 Dec 2003 10:56:02 GMT

I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how or if it is possible at all to access records from Parramatta Boys Home in Sydney Australia after the year of 1918.
I currently have no access to any records at all so any information on a Sydney Arthur Goard born 5 July 1918 would be greatly appreciated.

Orphan girls working as servants

trink71 — 8 Aug 2008 12:57:26 GMT

OK, this is a strange one: my great grandmother and her two sisters (Edna, Willie Rebecca and Maud OR Beatrice Prince) were orphaned in Tennessee around the turn of the century. At least two of the girls (the third hasn't been verified but it's likely) can be found in the 1900 Federal Census listed as 'servants' in several households in close proximity to one another in Franklin County, TN. They were still children, 10-12 years old...would someone have had to give permission for them to work? I know child labor laws weren't what they are today, but wouldn't there need to be some sort of guardian, or court input on what happened to the girls after their parents died?

One of the girls is working for a Margaret Stovall, which we had been told was the name of the person that took all three girls in, but she is listed as the Stovalls' servant and the other girls were working for different people. Would families 'adopt' orphans, only to use them as servants and even hire them out?

Inquiry

marlunaurubio — 27 Apr 2008 4:31:34 GMT

I am helping my friend Ma Luisa Natividad Rodriguez who is trying to find her real parents and maybe siblings. She was left at Hospicio De San Jose Orphanage, in the Phils. when she was still a baby. Any help will be appreciated.

Adoptions and Orphanages in Japan

oKawa — 10 Oct 2007 6:55:02 GMT

I have some one in a forum asking how they can go about finding information about her adoption.

She was adopted from an orphanage in Japan, probably around Tokyo in 1965 by two Americans. Her parents are up there in age and don't have much information for her. She said she looked at all the documents she had access to. Nothing gave her any leads or clues about her adoption.

I think her father was in the service, Air Force, so I had suggested her father's military records.

She was born in Tokyo and taken to the orphanage after she was born, then adopted by the American couple.

How would one go about locating information about foreign adoption?

Any other suggestions or leads would be appreciated.

Tedd
arries@mac.com

How do I find if my subject was in an orphanage?

AnitaGray14 — 7 Sep 2006 6:13:53 GMT

Jack Silvester known as John was the illigitimate son of an Elsie Silvester. I am informed that he was brought up in an orphanage, which imlpies that his mother may have died. He was born in South Battersea, Wansworth, County of London on the 19th May 1921 at 46 Ouseley Road, Balham. He may be still alive, but who knows. My question is how do I find out if he was in an orphamage and where! Do such lists exist?

Is there an official government register of orphans?

kryten1sun — 29 Aug 2007 9:41:10 GMT

My father and aunt became orphans in 1923 after my grandfather died. Is there an official government register of orphans?

Mass foster care/ward of state

donnagerry1 — 20 Aug 2007 8:50:24 GMT

If someone was a Ward of the State of Massachusetts in the late 1920's early 1930's, would there be records of where he/she lived and worked during that period of time? If so, does anyone know what Mass agency would hold those records? I am trying to find out what happened to my grandmother once she was given up and became a Ward around 1923.

Many thanks,
Donna

VASKO, Joseph,Rose,Anna

Perk2u — 25 Jun 2001 9:56:36 GMT

Seeking information, or others researching the family of,

ORPHANS ?

Joseph Vasco b.1880's Czech Republic
Annie/Anna Vasco b.1880's Czech Republic
Rose Vasco b.1890 Czech Republic

These children boarded a boat sometime in 1909-1911 for America. They ended up in Milwaukee,WI at somepoint.
Before 1912, Rose Vasko b.1890 m. George Bencze b.1888 Hungary, in Milwaukee, WI.

Rose {Vasko} Bencze b.1890 would tell her daughter (my mother), that the name of her town where she grew up was called, "Vede-vit-teasia". We know this is the wrong spelling and we are seeking the correct name and spelling.
We would appreciate any help we can get.

Please post a private e-mail to me if you can help or if you connect to this family. Thank-You

Walter Henry Harrison

fhc3337251 — 26 Mar 2003 7:01:17 GMT

My name is Georgia Hall and I am looking for information on my g-grandfather Walter Henry Harrison. His father, I think, was Thomas and his mother was Mary E. Atkinson. He worked at an institution for homeless children in Iowa, where he met his sife, Slyvia May McGrew. He had a brother named Arthur who married Laura. Sylvia had 5 sisters with her in the home. They were: Katie, Lizzie, Flossie, Ida and Lucy. I don't have any idea where they came from, and can't seem to locate them on any census! If anyone has ANY info on any of these people, please help!!!!

Jamaican Orphans

helenroberts93 — 10 May 2007 10:30:02 GMT

Hi I am looking for any information on Anna Maria Caroline Vanpine, she was born in Jamaica in 1812 to a Jamican mother and possibly german father. Her father John Vanpine was serving in the military in Jamaica at this time. She was sent over to England in around 1822 and lived in at the duke of york school in chelsea she eventually went to work for Samuel Oldknow in Mellor Derbyshire where she met my great great grandad Henry Roe Wigley. When she arrived in britain she was classed as an orphan and apparantly had a brother 'Jimmie'. Any help would be great, many thanks

This has been very helpful!

nickman1 — 18 Aug 2008 8:47:16 GMT

This is a great board!

Cardinal McCloskey

Debra — 15 May 2006 5:15:00 GMT

Anyone familiar with Cardinal McCloskey School & Home for Children? Located in White Plains New York

Jewish orphan

Cee_Zee48 — 13 Sep 2006 2:29:29 GMT

Is there anyone out there who can help me? I am trying to locate information on my husband's adopted grandmother. His great grandmother was Catherine Unknown who married Thomas Hunt in Cleveland, Ohio. When Thomas died (bet 1910 - 1920) Catherine Hunt adopted Margaret who was born in 1912 in Ohio. The story that my sister-in-law told me was that Margaret's biological mother worked for a Jewish couple in Cleveland as a maid. She had an affair with the Jewish husband and either the mother was shippedoff in secret to have the baby or the baby was sent to an orphanage. We think that the orphanage was probaly Jewish somewhere in Cleveland.

Robert Kenneth White

Ann Sammons — 14 Jul 2006 12:13:27 GMT

My father was dropped off a an orphanage in Bowling Green called Potters Children Home. He was born in 1944 and his mother dropped him off there. He was in several different foster homes until a family from Greenup, KY adopted him. He went by the name of Bobby White. Although his birth name was Robert Kenneth. I'm trying to locate his mother....my grandmother. Please help

1818-1820's adoption

llashua1 — 8 Jul 2006 11:04:46 GMT

My Gr. Grandmother was born in NYC Westchester is also named as a place she lived.in 1818 According to family history her Father died when she was 3 mo. old and her Mother a short time later.{no specifics as far as her death}She was adopted by a Townsend family, no other information on the adoption. GGrandmother's name on her childrens baptismal records is Mary Smith. I have to assume that was her birth name. She married my Gr. Grandfather Patrick Collins and they lived in Wyoming Co,.the rest of their lives. Where would I begin to look for verification of the adoption and any other relevant papers.

My father at Nazareth Home

Mark Melly — 1 Jul 2006 9:26:08 GMT

My father was at the Nazareth Home in the late 30s to the mid 40s. I was wondering if there was anyone who remembed him. His name is Joe or may have been Patrick at the home. I believe there is a fellow "inmate" living here in Fremantle, Australia. If there is anyone who has any informaion please do not hesitate to contact me at mellytuck@yahoo.com.au.
Thankyou.

Nazareth Orphanage Sligo

wilde1121 — 8 May 2006 10:06:46 GMT

Anyone know where I can obtain a list of childrens names/register of children at the above orphanage during the year's 1915/16/17/18?

foster child

charlottesmith19 — 18 Nov 2006 12:27:43 GMT

The child my great aunt told me about shows up on the 1910 census report with my great grandparents. His name was Burton C Stanley and shows him being born in 1899.

legacy house

kristine — 25 Dec 2005 11:00:32 GMT

im trying to info on legacy,s former childrens home at kyle bay nsw it was run by the presbyterian church.i was in there around 1958.or be for that.hope some out there can help. as i would like to go there just to have a look or talk to some one tha new about it . thanks

Edwin Owen, b. circa 1845 in England, in USA orphan 1860.

Claudia_Bissler — 26 Aug 2005 12:04:58 GMT

Please help us to solve our "brick wall". Edwin Owen is my husbands great grandfather. Our earliest record of him is his listing on the 1860 U. S. Federal Census for McClure Twp., Alleghany Co., Pennsylvania. He was a resident in an orphanage called "House of Refuge". He was 15 years old at the time. We have estimated his birth year from this and subsequent census records to be 1845. We have not been able to find any record of his immigration, parents or siblings. We do not know when or where he came into America. We do not know if he came alone or with family that later died here leaving him an orphan. His first born son was named "John Andrew Owen". Andrew was Edwin's wife's father's name, so we think possibly that Edwin's father was named John. Edwin was a boot and shoemaker by trade, but whether he learned the trade in England or here, we don't know. He was listed as "incoming" on the 1860 census at the orphanage which leads us to think he had not been in that institution for very long. We are trying to find records from the House of Refuge but it has been difficult.
We are hopeful that there is some kind of records in England of people who were departing for America between 1845 and 1860 that would list children with their parents. We have found several Edwin Owen's in birth records from England, but we have no way of knowing which if any of them immigrated to America. Edwin fought in our Civil War of 1861-1865 and served as a town Marshall from 1872-74 which was an elected office. All indications are that he was an honest, responsible and reliable man of good character. He married twice, his first wife dying childless, but he had two children, a boy and a girl by his second wife before he died in 1881.
We would be thrilled to discover his English roots and to find if there are still relatives in the U.K. Any help or suggestions would be welcome. Claudia, Streetsboro, Ohio, U.S.A., <cjsam@config.com>

my mother

stephanie temples — 10 Aug 2005 1:00:15 GMT

my mom was placed in an orphanage in the 1950's all I know is that she was born in 1949 in sicily with the last name Graceffa?? please help if you can.

Jesuit orphanage France circa 1890

robindudgeon — 5 Oct 2006 7:47:58 GMT

Looking for information about records for Jesuit orphanages in France. my gg grandfather Georges Le Bas was sent to one such place in France (possibly Paris) where he waa educated. At the age of 17 he decided he wanted to be a priest. They sent him to Ste. Rose du Lac, Manitoba, Canada with another man but he changed his mind and returned to France once to immigrate a few years later.

Any help would be fantastic. Even a list of Jesuit orphanages in France at the time, or where I might find some records would be nice.

Robin Dudgeon
Manitoba, Canada

Can anyone recognize this picture of this orphanage?

debilu — 9 Dec 2003 2:53:09 GMT

Can anyone recognize this picture. It is the chapel at the orphanage where my father grew up. I don't know where it is located. I think in Illinois. Please help

Real, Jacques, Raymond & John b.bet.1932-1943 sons of Gilberte BRAULT ~ raised at St Aubin Orphanage

Gwenn — 13 Apr 2005 6:02:39 GMT

if anyone has any recollections of this Orphanage, we know it
burnt down in the 50's
we are trying to locate any information of 4 boys that were raised there by the nuns and brothers ,Their names are
Real, Jacque,Raymond and John Brault
we know that their mother Gilberte Brault had re married to a
J Rainville and that she couldnt raise anymore children at that time
dates of dob range from 1932-1943

BRICE, Calvin R., James Harvey, Samuel Conway

BPrater69 — 15 Dec 2005 1:48:01 GMT

I have aquired a book about an orphanage (childrens home) in SC. It lists, names
of children... county they were from.. and date of entry. Entry dates, from 1892
to 1931. I have three listings for BRICE children. familyvisser@earthlink.net

Orphanage help

sacooperfrank1 — 10 Feb 2005 2:49:40 GMT

If an orphanage was sponsored by a church and is no longer in existence, sometimes the records will be lodged at the main office. For instance records for Devereaux Hall, which was the boys orphanage and for the girls orphanage are retained at the Diocesan office in Jackson, Mississippi at this time. I had some experience with this since my husbands grandfather was at one time a resident of D'evereaux Hall. This might give those who are searching a new avenue to use. These particular orphanages were ;pcated in Natchez, Mississippi and were run by the Catholic nuns and brothers.

Back at the turn of the century, many orphanages were run by the church. If I can be of further help, please contact me.

The Sambuca Club

Cmags111 — 1 Feb 2005 1:31:20 GMT

Looking to find persons who remember a group possibly called the Sambuca Club, which raised money to send to a Orphange located in Sambuca di Sicilia. The orphange was started by a Dr. Nick Maggio.

Famine Orphans Co. Cork to Australia 1848-1850

Bealtaine — 21 Jun 2005 3:31:36 GMT

Following is a link to a list of Famine orphans from Co. Cork to Australia between 1848 and 1850.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmahs/morph.htm

Eilis O'Hara

Inmate

ChrisMcGhee51 — 19 Feb 2003 6:34:37 GMT

Can anyone tell me if the term "Inmate" means Orphan,and/ or Poor House when used in the census? Thank You.

Orphan Laws of the 1800's

JudyB2155 — 1 Sep 2004 2:19:46 GMT

Does anyone know IF there were any laws pertaining to orphans during this time frame? We are finding in our research that Guardianship was granted to family members 'orphaned' children, when only one of the parent's [usually the Father] had died. Was there a law stateing that Guardianship had to be given to someone when the Father had died? We have found where even though the mothers were still living, children of a marriage were considered 'orphans'. Please help inform me! Thanks, Judy

Orphans Boards

brenda6209681 — 5 Feb 2005 2:45:32 GMT

Is there an "Orphans" Board for folks who knew their folks and were separated or estranged from the families for some reason or another-----as adults? I have an ancestor that claims to have been born in SW MO, in 1854, and we are having a heck of a time trying to find his family. One family member suggested that he may've gotten into some trouble and changed his name (From "Scott" to "Howard"???). If he did, then what in the world are we to do? My thought---maybe starting a board especially for identifying relatives who fall into this kind of category. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Please....

Did orphanages use your birth name or give you a new name?

Lucy — 16 Jan 2004 10:02:42 GMT

My father was placed in an orphanage in the early 40's. Did orphanages use your birth name or give you a new name? I have been searching with no idea if I'm searching under the correct name. My father went by one name when he was younger than went by a different name later in life. I'm not sure which one is his birth name or if neither are. Thanks.

Need NBP Orphanage Information, 1950-53

Garnet Murray — 9 Dec 2003 2:57:22 GMT

How do I get info as to when I was admitted into NBP Orphanage. It was about 1950 -1953 I left approximately in 1957 or 58. Any info would be a tremendous help.

Re: Inmate

Jenna Tong — 28 Aug 2002 8:36:21 GMT

'Inmate' was often used for those residing in the poor house (in England, at least). If kids appear in the poor house census without parents either they are orphans or their parents have abandoned them.

Jenna

Reference source

Lila — 11 Jul 2002 5:05:03 GMT

Can anyone recommend a good article or book to help with searching geneological orphans? I have several in my family tree who were orphans and the information provided on marriage records and children's birth records do not lead anywhere because these orphans did not seem to know their parent's names, or where they or their parents were born. Any reading assignments would be helpful. Thanks for any help.

Edna M. Owens an orphan

Sue(Lefevers/Owen)Kiehn — 15 Jul 2005 9:00:48 GMT

I'm looking for a Edna Mae or May Owens, born around 1915
possibly in WV. Parents & siblings unknown. She married
a Frank J. Lefevers in the 1930's in Clarksburg, WV and had
a son, Frank J Lefevers Jr. on 10-29-1934. Edna died aprox
5-3-1936 in Clarksburg, VW. She did claim she was an orphan,
and there's a possibility she may be the Edna M. Staley, that was living with Kenneth F Owens & Anna B. (Staley) Owens, Married 1919, which showed up on the 1920 Cencus in Wood Co VW, her age was (15) making her year of birth 1905, and she could have changed her last name to Owens, If any one has any info or leads I would greatly appreciate them, and please feel free to
email me.
Thanks, Sue(Lefevers/Owens)Kiehn
Quincy, WA email: kiehn@bossig.com

S.R.S.O. Woking

Sylvia Langford — 1 Oct 2000 7:00:14 GMT

Is there anybody out there that was in the Southern Railway Home for Railwaymen at Woking?

Help! What Institution or Agency Is This?

Cajun Lady — 28 Dec 2003 5:07:04 GMT

I am looking for the name of an institution or agency that handled orphan children. It was in operation definitely during the time between 1861 and 1867. The superintendent was E.T. Bird. The directors were R. Lloyd, Geo. O. Sweet, and Dr. MacPherson. I would appreciate any information or suggestions.

Native american blood? HUMISTON

Tina Andros — 14 Aug 2001 7:52:04 GMT

I am trying to confirm whether my grandmother was part native. We never found out much information about her as she had grown up in orphanage and children's homes. She always maintained that she did not thinnk she was an american citizen and that she thought she came from Canada. The last name she had at her marriage to my grandfather was Humiston. There was always mention of an aunt called "Ida Beaver" but never any confirmation. Any info regarding native orphns would be appreciated.

Orphanages in the Carolina's

Songbirdatsea — 8 Apr 2002 3:58:02 GMT

Need information on orphanages in the Carolina's. Or, were you adopted from one? Are you a female about 65ish, possibly black/white mix?

m. parker humane society 1931

gberger51 — 9 Jul 2001 1:47:02 GMT

does anyone know where this was located i am desperate to find my adoption papers

St Agatha Home

ncanfield57 — 24 Oct 2002 1:01:12 GMT

If anyone is affiliated with St. Agatha Home for Children, please reply. Thank you.

How do I find 90 year old Orphanage Records?

BETTY — 25 Feb 2004 9:46:18 GMT

WHEN AN ORPHANAGE NO LONGER IS IN EXISTANCE, DOES ANYONE KNOW IF RECORDS ARE TRANSFERRED ELSEWHERE OR JUST LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. I CALLED THE HOME THAT I UNDERSTOOD EVOLVED AS A RESULT OF THE ORIGINAL ONE. EVERYONE WAS VERY NICE, BUT THEIR CONTACTS HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF PREVIOUS HOME HISTORY.

THE RECORDS I AM ATTEMPTING TO FIND FOR GENEALOGY PURPOSES ARE 90 YEARS OLD. THE DISTRICT COURT OF THE COUNTY IN QUESTION STATED ALL COURT RECORDS BEFORE 1933 WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO COUNTY COURT FOR STORAGE. COUNTY COURT SAID RECORDS THAT OLD WOULD BE NOTHING MORE THAN PERHAPS AFFIDAVITS.

BEFORE I TAKE OFF WORK AND MAKE THE TRIP FOR RESEARCH, I AM ATTEMPTING TO GET AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE ON WHERE AND HOW TO LOOK.

Owen offsprings

Sandy — 13 Mar 2000 7:17:23 GMT

I am trying to do research on missing siblings of my grandmother. My grandmother was sent to the Los Angeles Children's Home when she was about 8 or 10, along with 3 brothers and 1 sister. I am looking for offsprings of Harold Bert Owen born 1898? Martin Owen born around 1900, Charles Young Owen born between 1900 and 1905 and Emma Vivian Owen, born between 1900 and 1905. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

grandmother was abandoned as a baby

Janice Smart (nee Orr) — 21 Aug 2005 6:34:17 GMT

This is such a long shot. My grandmother was abandoned as a baby. She was apparently born to an Mary Owen in the Whitechapel Hospital, London some 100 years ago now. We believe Mary Owen was from Edinburgh, Scotland (if that was her real name). She left the baby on the step of a wealthy gentleman's house. He gave her his name and brought her up as his own. His name Alfred May. Her name Daisy. Alfred also had a brother called William. Don't suppose I will find out after all this time but worth a try. Thanks.

Joseph,Rosa,Anna Wasco/Vasco

Perk2u — 25 Jun 2001 9:56:36 GMT

Seeking information, or others researching the family of,
ORPHANS ?

1.Joseph Wasko/Wasco/Vasco b.1880's Czech Republic

2.Annie "Anna" Wasko/Wasco/Vasco b.1880's Czech Republic

3.Rose Wasko/Wasco/Vasco b.1890 Czech Republic

These children boarded a boat sometime in 1909-1911 for America. They ended up in Milwaukee,WI at somepoint.
Before 1912, Rose Vasko b.1890 m. George Bencze b.1888 Hungary, in Milwaukee, WI.

Rose {Vasko} Bencze b.1890 would tell her daughter (my mother), that the name of her town where she grew up was called, "Vede-vit-teasia". We know this is the wrong spelling and we are seeking the correct name and spelling.
We would appreciate any help we can get.

Please post a private e-mail to me if you can help or if you connect to this family. Thank-You

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Arthur Otto (Wians) Hulderman

janetwaite41 — 23 Jun 2001 5:26:57 GMT

Seeking information about my great grandfather. He was supposedly born in Parkersburg or Fairmont, WV and left at an orphanage at a very young age until the age of 9 years old when William Tandy Hulderman of Barbour County, WV took him in. His marriage records and the 1910 census state his name as Otto Wians/Wions but he has always used the Hulderman name as an adult. If anyone can help with naming orphanages that were in existance in 1890-1900 time period or knows of a Wians/Hulderman connection, I would be most greatful. This puzzle is really running me in circles. Thanks in advance for any help.