Yes, thank you for responding, I have all the census records as well as draft register and the manifest from Liverpool in 1910, that must be when he came back? My gr. grandmothers maiden name was Linbeck, Milga. What I really want to know is where in Finland he came from? Mannila is in no way a common name, here at least! I have a great many pix from my grandfather Roy, one done in 1911 with Herman in Seaside. I have another with the 2 boys and Milga and her sister as I remember on the beach in Seaside, although their backs are to the camera! I do have a protrait of her, do not know the date. but she comes from Finland as well. Is there a way to access Finnish documents? You know what I mean? So Jalasjawi? I saw that as well, so very hard to read...must be in Finland. thank you for your help!