British Isles Royalty - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Looking for some help with Robert the Bruce

jhaffly1 — 30 Oct 2008 4:15:38 GMT

Trying to find his connection with David I as a 4x great grandson...

Thanks,

Jim

looking for information on Irish lords, RYAN in particular

bluewlvrn — 12 Apr 2004 5:02:25 GMT

Mary Ann Saul

Doreen294 — 7 Oct 2008 11:24:52 GMT

I'm trying to locate an ancestor on my husbands side of the family. It seems she worked at Buckingham Palace during the mid to late 19th century. Information on her is very sketchy, I'm hoping your records may have her listed. Her name was Mary Ann Saul and I believe she became Mary Ann Kemp when she married.

I do hope someone can help.

Doreen

Royal Archives at Windsor

doogaldetects — 9 Jan 2008 5:03:33 GMT

Hi

Has anybody ever written off to the Royal Archives to find out about relatives who were in service? If so, how long did it take before you got a reply and did you have to pay for any of the info?

Thank you

Buckingham palace employee 1860-65

jfharvey1 — 24 Aug 2008 7:39:59 GMT

Family belief is that my grandfather Francis/Thomas Francis Gregory was employed at Buckingham Palace c1860-65 and that when he left to emigrate to Australia he was given a certificate which unfortunately has since been lost. Can anyone please tell me how I can verify if this is correct?
Thank you,
June Harvey

lord & lady farley?

ttricky1 — 26 May 2008 5:53:27 GMT

does anyone know if there was a LORD & LADY FARLEY in Ireland don't know what part. can anyone tell me how i can find out?
regards sheila

bastards

C. Taub — 17 Mar 2004 1:15:21 GMT

I am interested in the illigimate descendants of royalty,

Also did Richard III or Henry VIII have any descendants in henry's case not his legimiate children.

Help with my Hoar and Lisle families

lovetotravel — 21 Apr 2004 12:32:59 GMT

Somehow the Hoar family are desended from the Royal family. I can not figure out which family they are from. Below I will list the Hoar family I desend from.The Hoar family is listed in the book "All the Royal Families in Europe and Mayflower Descedants" page 102.

I can not find if they are from royalty or the Mayflower . I need help firguring out this line.

Phebe Hoar married Jonas Adams
Benjamin Hoar married Anna Brooks
Benjamin Hoar married Esther Hoar
Daniel Hoar married Mary Stratton
John Hoar married Alice Lisle
Charles Hoare married Margery Hoare

Thank You,
Melissa

Trace of Lady in Waiting to Queen Victoria

thorntonjoubert — 22 Jun 2008 8:05:24 GMT

My great grandmother was Lady Temperance Jeffery Binding Fincham (Lady in waiting, Queen victoria) She was born 18 Oct 1880 and died on 30th Aug 1936. She married John Henry Joubert born on 23 March 1874 and died on 21 March 1925. He was born in South Africa.

I would like to know any information on her and her husband as to her capacity as Lady and how she was a lady in waiting and ended up in South Africa.

Thank You
Thornton Joubert

James Stewart 2nd Earl of Moray

lucind — 7 Jun 2008 9:17:00 GMT

Hi all- Just cleaning out the house and have found an old piano sheet music with lyrics titled the 'Bonnie Earl of Moray (from songs of the north gathered from the highlands and lowlands of scotland)'
It is old and yellow and originally cost 2 shillings. I'll post it to anyone that would like it.
Lucind.

Oropesa & Prince George trip

jhowardj0503 — 23 Feb 2004 3:29:52 GMT

CAn anyone tell me the month in 1931 when the Oropesa sailed to the Argentine with Prince George and his elder brother the Prince of Wales?

I am trying to date a news article about the trip.

Thanks

Marquis of Queensbury

lindahodgsonironside — 23 Jan 2003 2:14:07 GMT

Looking for all info possible (specifically regarding his private life,scandals etc...Mistresses)...this being John Sholto Douglas 9th Marquis of Queensbury.

Further to Household of King Charles 1/Oliver Cromwell

thu08379 — 27 Mar 2008 4:58:17 GMT

Hi to all you history buffs

On my original posting I was seeking a Dowsett at the court of king Charles, well I have found him, his name was Abraham Dowsett (sometimes spelt Doucett) the Clerke of the Kitchin at the court. I have found several mentions of him in letters to parliament, including details of how he, after being defeated by Cromwell at Naseby he was sent with Charles to Carisbrooke Castle he was also arrested with a Mr Osborne after a failed rescue attempt to free Charles. The next mention I can find is he is Bailed to attend some business at the Southampton Assizes with the King and a Major Rolfe, still trying to find out what that was.

Can anybody shed any light on what the business may have been

stuart royalty

BradRenfroe1980 — 22 Mar 2008 12:48:42 GMT

as you all probably know, the stuarts are desended from royalty in Scotland. I am desended from the son of James V, James Stewart. I am interested in any information anyone has about the stuart family history. I am interested to see how far back I can trace our family. Also, if anyone has information about the sons of James Stewart, I would appreciate any information. I have some names leading up to myself, but I was hoping to find some information about them. Also, I found a website that traces thr Stuarts all the back to Noah and Abraham. i don't know if is legit, but if anyone is interested, i can give you the address.

Stewart Family / King James III of Scotland

metradrone — 15 May 2006 1:34:27 GMT

Hello-
I have just connected a whole mess of Stewarts from North America to Stewarts in Scotland.

Also, I have just found out that I am something like the 19th great grandson to King James III of Scotland. If anyone has any interesting information, please share.

My tree is at http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/ejmii
and you can email me at mail@ejmii.com
Thank you
Edward John McCurry, II

are "official" or reliable Royal GEDCOM files available?

Patrick — 29 Sep 2004 6:09:00 GMT

I done a bit of searching on this and other boards but have not found a source for a cd or download of a good gedcom file on royal families. Does anyone have a source?
Oh I have found a few family trees going back to Adam and Eve and having the gods of olympas and while interesting I would prefer somthing a bit more along the lines of 'official' or sanctioned records.
thank you in advance
Patrick

Glendower Monmouth Rebellion 1685

svikaros — 16 Dec 2007 9:14:45 GMT

I found an on line manuscript book called THE OLD BRICK CHURCHES OF MARYLAND by Helen West Ridgely. On page 44 it mentions a Matthias Jones “Olim et de jure Glendower” It goes on to say Matthias was a turbulent descendant of Glendower and had joined in the Monmouth Rebellion which was about 1685. Matthias was forced to leave the country and take refuge in Maryland and bought part of Cross Manor, St. Mary’s, MD. More details are in the book.
I can't locate how they were related. Any help would be appreciated.

Royal Blood of the Bingfield, Co. Cavan - Storys

Jack Storey — 20 Nov 2003 11:41:37 GMT

Rev. Joseph Story (1788-1838) of Bingfield, Crossdoney, Co. Cavan married Louisa Rivers, daughter of Sir Peter Rivers Bt.
According to Rev. Leach of Drumlane, Co. Cavan, the Rivers Family were directly descended from Mary Queen of Scots and also from King James. Also corroborating this data is "Ruvigny-Blood Royal" and Burke's Peerage.
Rev. Joseph & Louisa had eight children - Joseph (1817-1875), William John Rivers (1826-45), Emilia Henrietta who married Christopher Bagot Lane (1850), Eleonora Martha Sarah (d.1872), Frances Marianne (1823-1892), Louisa Maria Elizabeth (d.1916), Caroline Maria who married Rev DeCourcy Meade (1861) & Agnes Sarah who married Lt. Col. John Bean (1856). All the siblings claimed to be of Royal Descent.

British Royalty

barbaradeems — 30 Aug 2007 5:47:02 GMT

Hello, I am an American who is new at collecting ancestry data, and I have what may seem to you a silly question, but I must ask:

I have tracked my ancestry back to the UK, and found that I have a link to the monarchy. My question to you all: Is this very common for you in UK to have links to the monarchy? My guess is that in some European countries where people have lived for many generations, everyone ends up being related at one point in the past. Is this not so?

As you know, our country is very young, so it is no big deal to have relatives who were here 200 years ago. But to be linked to the British monarchy is another thing altogether. It seems to be good for bragging, at least:)

I tried to follow my tree back in time, but the records started getting corrupted, ex: someone born in 900 AD in Ottawa, Canada???

Thanks for any help with this.

Am I really the 20th grandson of King Robert I of Scotland?

Leazer425 — 19 Apr 2007 8:50:02 GMT

I recently used ancestry.com to discover that I am the 20th grandson of King Robert I of Scotland, or at least the records on this site say I am. What I don't understand is why in the mid-1400s my family's surname changes from Stewart (the royal family of Scotland) to Cash (my grandparents' surname.) The records say the father of Thomas Cash was James Stewart, meaning Thomas's surname should remain Stewart because it was his father's surname. Did ancestry.com supply me with false information or am I missing something?

Lord Phillips of Ireland / maybe sent from England to Ireland pre 1750 / American descendants

elizabethmphillips — 7 Nov 2005 10:58:51 GMT

I am looking for information about a Lord Phillips of Ireland. My husband, Ernest Churchill Phillips is a direct descendant of Lord Phillips. However, we just found out this recently from an official state history book here in the United States.

Supposedly a son of Lord Phillips immigrated probably some time between 1740 to perhaps almost 1800 to New England in the United States. His children were Levi, William H. and Frances. William H. was born in 1801 in Hanover, NH.

We know nothing about Lord Phillips and an internet search has yielded virtually nothing except a "present" Lord Phillips (Sudbury??) of England. Don't know if there's any relationship or not.

If any one knows, or has suggestions, it would be most appreciated.

H.M. Queen Victoria's God Children

JodyBlack22 — 6 Sep 2008 4:17:14 GMT

Where would I find a list of her God Children, most specifically, a Godson that was a cabin boy in the British Navy and became a deserter (at age twelve) in New York(?). He never contacted his family again due to the disgrace of his desertion. He changed his name to Smith used the name Francis/Frank Harding Smith. Apparently this was his never mentioned dark secret and only relayed information to his daughter on his deathbed in the 1940's (when he was in his 80's?). He also said that his mother was a close friend of the Queen, a neighbor/Lady in Waiting. Unfortunately he passed before clarifying his real birth name. I am his great grand daughter (age 69). I promised my grandmother, just prior to her death, that I would work to find out her real heritage and family name. Surely, there could not have been too many of the Queen's God Children that deserted the British Navy. Where would I find this sort of information ? Any help greatly appreciated indeed.

Use Wikipedia to look up the names of royal/noble figures

rundehel — 2 Aug 2007 2:42:42 GMT

Go to www.wikipedia.com to look up the names of any royal or noble figure by using its search engine.

For example, type in "Charles I" or "Charles II" or any name with Roman numeric and the search engine will give you a list of royal/noble figures based on Charles.

Pay very close attention whose parents or relations each royal or noble figure is related to. It's very easy to get lost or confused with the names, so pay very close attention to these figures' names.

I've been putting a lot of Wikipedia URLs in the comment parts of every royal/noble figure in my GEDCOM under Ancestry.com so for current and future members to look up the comment section and copy-paste the URL link to a webpage to take them to see who's who on Wikipedia's royal/noble figures.

Is there a line from Saher De Quincy 1155-1219 to Anne Lovelace 1610-1652?

kevinmakel1 — 13 Jul 2007 8:22:51 GMT

I have the line from Anne Lovelace to my family. But is there a linne from Her back to Saher De Quincy? If so can any one help me with that? my email is kevinmakel@aol.com

People who worked at Buckingham Palace

lyns88 — 31 May 2007 6:54:03 GMT

Hello,

Was hoping for a little help..
Is there anyway of finding records for people who worked at Buckingham Palace?

Many Thanks in advance for any help

Lyn

Nurse Walkley

Segilla — 12 Jun 2007 5:16:06 GMT

Nurse to Q Victoria's children towards the end of the 19C.
In the loft of a house he'd moved into, a colleague found a batch of elegant greetings cards and letters.
The letters with drawings were truly startling as they were from the roysl children addressed to 'Dear Walkley'.

Letter-heads included Balmoral, Sandringham etc.

I was told that efforts to trace the former house owner failed and that the packet would be sent to the Royal Archivrs at Windsor.

Surprisingly, Walkley figured in an item in the UK newspaper (with a photo), The Daily Telegraph, perhaps 20 years ago. From memory, she had been dismissed for some misdemeanour, but Queen Mary(?) had her re-employed.

I'd like to know more about Walkley. Does anybody have any information?
TKS

Noble Marriages of England, Ireland, Scotland

Shirley — 3 Jul 2007 1:48:53 GMT

book: Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary
of the Peerages of England, Ireland, & Scotland,
Extinct, Dormant, & in Abeyance.
by John Burke, Esq.
Second Edition. London. MDCCCXL.

MACKENZIE, - EARL OF SEAFORTH. p.761
William MACKENZIE, 6th Earl of Seaforth,
who joined in the rising of 1715, and was ATTAINTED.
He m. Mary, only daughter and heir of Nicholas KENNET, Esq. of Coxhow, in Northumberland; and dying in 1740, left (with a daughter, Frances, wife of the Hon. John GORDON, of KENMURE) a son,

..KENNETH (MACKENZIE), Lord Fortrose, M.P. for Rosshire in 1747 and 1754; who m. in 1741, Lady Mary STEWART, daughter of Alexander (STEWART), Earl of Galloway; and d. in 1761, leaving (with six daughters,
1. Margaret, m. to William WEBB, of London;
2. Mary, m. to Henry HOWARD, Esq;
3. Agnes, m. to J. DOUGLAS, Esq;
4. Cathrine, m. to Thomas Griffin Tarpley, Esq;
5. Frances, m. to Joseph WALL, Esq;
6. Euphemia, m. to William STEWART, Esq. of CASTLE STEWART, M.P. for Wigtownshire) a son,
...........KENNETH MACKENZIE,
who was raised to the peerage of Ireland, in 1766,
as Viscount Fortrose, and further advanced, in 1771, to be EARL OF SEAFORTH. His Lordship m. Lady Caroline STANHOPE, and had an only child, Caroline, m. to Comte Melfort.
LORD SEAFORTH d. in 1781, when his honours became EXTINCT.

Jim, I think the STEWART family Earls of Galloway had both the properties of Garlies and Castle Stewart (from RMS).

Alexander STEWART (6th Earl of Galloway)
b. 20 Aug 1695 Penninghame, Wigtown, Scotland
(LDS Batch #C118952 & same for siblings )
(son of James STEWART, 5th Earl of Galloway,
and Catherine MONTGOMERY )
m. 19 Jan 1721 Whithorn, Wigtownshire, Scotland to Agnes HOUSTON
(LDS Batch #M119002 )

CHILD :
Mary STEWART (A monument was raised in her memory in Kensington, London, England )
b. 1721 Kensington, London, England
d. 10 Apr 1751 at: Kensington, London, England
( dau. of Alexander STEWART (6th Earl of Galloway)
and Agnes HOUSTON ...any other children ?)
m. (11 Sep 1741 at Ross & Cromarty, Scotland to
...... Kenneth MacKENZIE (Lord Fortrose)
b. 1720 Ross & Cromarty, Scotland
d. 18 Oct 1761 Grosvenor Square, London, England
(son of William MacKENZIE, V Earl of Seaforth, Scotland,
and Mary KENET )

Van Cutsem/Jackson - Linking Linley lineage?

Alex — 23 Apr 2003 5:45:55 GMT

Hello everyone,

I'm seeking information on Lt.-Col. Freeman Astley JACKSON, D.S.O. (1874-1951) who married Florence Josephine Alexandra VAN CUTSEM (1883-????), 3 February
1910, London.

The pedigree of Serena Alleyne STANHOPE (who married Viscount Linley) shows him to be her great grandfather, but I can find no mention anywhere of her great grandmother. I know Lt.-Col. Jackson married Florence van Cutsem and had "one son and one daughter" by her. Can anyone confirm (or otherwise) that Capt. Harry FREEMAN JACKSON, Serena's grandfather, is the "one son" of Lt.-Col. Jackson and Florence? Or did the Lt.-Col. have more than one wife? If so, was Capt. Harry the son of Florence or not? And can anyone put a name to the "one daughter"?

Confirmed lineage...

Capt. Harry FREEMAN JACKSON (son of Lt.-Col. Freeman Astley JACKSON, D.S.O.)
b. 19??
married: Dorothy Alleyne D'Aubigny D'ENGELBRONNER (1915-1992), 1936.
d. 1993
Residence - Cool-na-Grena, Mallow, Co. Cork, Ireland.

Child:-
Virginia Alleyne FREEMAN JACKSON. b.1939.
married: Charles Henry STANHOPE, Viscount PETERSHAM (b.1945), 1966.

Children:-
(1) Hon. William STANHOPE (b. 14 October 1967).

(2) Hon. Serena Alleyne STANHOPE (b. 1 March 1970, Limerick, Ireland)
married: David Albert Charles ARMSTRONG-JONES, Viscount LINLEY (son of Antony Charles Robert ARMSTRONG-JONES, 1st Earl of SNOWDON, Viscount
LINLEY, and HRH Margaret Rose WINDSOR, Princess Margaret of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; b. 3 November 1961, Clarence House, Mayfair, London), 9 October 1993,
Westminster.

Children:-
(1) Hon. Charles Patrick Inigo ARMSTRONG-JONES (b. 1 July 1999, London).
12th in line to the British throne.

(2) Hon. Margarita Elizabeth Alleyne ARMSTRONG-JONES (b. 14 May 2002, London).
13th in line to the British throne.

Many thanks,

Alex Hall

trail and hamilton

norman bryan trayal/trail — 23 Jan 2004 11:41:20 GMT

does any one have info on this marriage, how was lady hamilton kin to royalty. what was their children names, and was they from scotland or ireland. thanks

Scottish/English Royal bloodlines: 22nd Descendant of King Edward II, James I and more

sl_mayes — 6 Jun 2006 1:15:22 GMT

In doing research I have found that I am the 22nd descendant of King Edward II as well as a long list of royalty on my grandmother's side and also a descendant of King James I (the Bible Kings James Version) on my grandfather's side. Does anyone know how I can furthur pursue this and gain more information. As well as if it is of any importance or not or if it is all wishful thinking!!

royal descent

Julianna Simor Rawlins Lees — 12 Apr 2004 5:27:55 GMT

My sons are descended from Alfred the Great through their father. Alfred's descendants are mostly kings of England until Edward III.
One of their ancestors, Henry II, married Eleanor of Aquitaine. Their blood line can be traced directly from Alfred to them, each succeeding descendant being either the son or the daughter of the previous link in the chain. Is this unique? Does anyone know the scientific formula for establishing the number of genes they have in common with, say, Eleanor of Aquitaine?

Best wishes from

Julianna

United Kingdom citizens who may have inherited royal blood lines

Henderson — 3 Jan 2007 2:33:50 GMT

This writer in Canada has been researching his family linage and has found a blood line from one ancestor, Such blood line has decended to a few royals past and present in the United Kingdom and three branches of the German Royal lines as well in the last Czars direct blood line.

Those who inherit the same blood line and markings are from one ancestor, do not have to have direct lines to royal lineage, but do share the same ancestor (from small gene pool).

The rare visible markings appear on some royals who are related past and present.

My interest is to see if anyone in the United Kingdom who believes their ancestors had English Scottish or Welsh royal blood line, may have inherieted mentioned markings. One person of Scottish ancestry who was an Earl did inherit the royal blood line markings spoken about.

In conclusion this writer is trying to determine if the rare royal blood line decended down through Untited Kingdom Royals over centuries or did they originate from European royal lines many centuries past.

Mr. W. Henderson
picorporation@hotmail.com

King James 11 Army Commanders - 1690

jackstorey10 — 20 Dec 2004 7:56:46 GMT

Robert Bruce of Scotland book/lineage question...

Stacey Henry — 13 Mar 2004 2:14:02 GMT

Through my father's side, I'm descended from Robert Bruce's sister Matilda and her husband Hugh de Ross (and henceforth from Aethelred, the Ogilvies, Sinclairs, Restalrig, and de Hyburnes)... I already have the line mapped out, so this isn't necessarily a lineage question. My question is does anyone know of and can recommend some good books on the history of the Bruces?

Thanks!
Stacey

Edward I King of England

MargieWellwood — 4 Mar 2004 12:08:15 GMT

I'm looking for the titles of some books or articles giving genealogical information on the descendents of King Edward I or England. From a reliable source I read that Ann Cocke who married Robert Bolling in Virginia in the 1700's brought many royal lines to the family. I discovered a posting on FHL that traces this family back to King Edward I. I have been unable to contact the poster for verification and would like to find a way to verify it myself. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Lady, Mary Bible 1612-1680

CraigRussell39 — 30 Jul 2006 6:20:40 GMT

1612 Hose, Leistershire England
31 Aug 1680 Hose, Leistershire England

She was the wife of Lord John Garrett who evidently was a quaker. In the information I have it states she was of British nobility and was disinherited from her family when she married John Garrett of Lestershire, England. She died before he went to America

They had eight children: Ann, John, Elizabeth, Dorothe, Mari, William, Catren, Thomas

I have been unable to find anything pertaining to her family - help

Thank You

Stewart of Traquair - up to 1700

pafwilson — 4 Jul 2006 10:24:55 GMT

My family interfaces with this one at the time of King Charles I. I am interested in sharing information about this family between the time of John of Gaunt and John Stewart, 1st Earl of Traquair.

Please feel free to visit my website at:

familyhistoryofphilipwilson.co.uk

which has all that I have, + forums for discussion and areas for contact. I look forward to your visit!

Philip Wilson

St Aubyn / Baron St Levan

Jim Saunders — 24 Jun 2006 8:13:58 GMT

Looking for information about Helen Katherine (Phillippo), mother of Francis Cecil St. Aubyn, 3rd Baron St Levan, born Kingston, Jamaica April 18, 1895.

"Carol Mathews" Court of Henrietta Maria

Tom Hutchinson — 20 Jun 2006 1:56:26 GMT

Hi Carol

This is a long shot, I noticed your response regarding the Ladies in Waiting to Henrietta Maria in 2000 and your obvious interest in this subject. I to have an ancestor believed to be in the court of Henrietta Maria he was apparently the Head of the Household and his surname was Doucett (French variation on the anglicised version of my Grandfathers surname of Dowsett. Because of your interest have you come across the name? any detail at all would be appreciated. This day 20/06/06 I have posted a letter to the Royal Archive in the hope they may shed some light on the subject.

Thanking you in anticipation

Tom Hutchinson

List of servants

pwarren73 — 27 Aug 2005 5:35:14 GMT

Does anyone know of any listing of servants in royal households circa 1906?

WILLIAM IV (Prince William Henry, the Sailor King.

WARDGREENE — 1 Oct 2006 7:29:03 GMT

In compiling a family tree on my GREENE family of Point Verde,Placentia,Newfoundland, I have a few times come across family folklore that says the following:::
When Prince William Henry(later King William IV) was stationed at Placentia,Newfoundland for a couple of months in 1786,as a young man,working partly as a surrogate magistrate, and being already known for his liking of the opposite sex,and willingness to mix with the normal middle class instead of the nobility only....he apparently was seeing an unmarried GREENE girl at some stage, and,on returning to England,left her "with child". The folklore goes that a few years later, either he returned for or sent for the child,but not the mother,and took the child back to England, and that's the last heard of the child by the Greenes. It sounds plausible because of his willingness to mix with the middle class,and the Greenes were a prominent local family,and young single girls were still a rarity in the area at that time. Just a shot in the dark, but an interesting tidbit if true.....so if any researcher has any knowlledge of this child,I'd be very interested in knowing what happened to it. (This Newfoundland family used both GREENE and GREEN from arrival in Boston and New England in 1610,Nfld. in 1600s,French Nfld. in late 1600s,and Boston and Nfld. in 1770s,and up until 1930 or so,when Placentia-Poinr Verde main family settled on Greene. There are GREEN,Protestant relatives elsewhere in Nfld. from old days. Family originally English Quakers,then mainly RC in Placentia,being married to French and Irish RC).Thanks.Ward. wardgreene@hotmail.com

Household of Charles 1/ Oliver Cromwell

thu08379 — 1 Jun 2006 4:24:18 GMT

Hi, This is a real long shot. There is a rumour which I am trying to confirm that the Head of the royal household during the reign of Charles 1 and/or Oliver Cromwell was a descendant of mine named Dowsett/Dousett or more likely Doucett as he was believed to have been of French descent. Could anybody supply any information or reference material which is available where this could be checked?

Thanks in advance

Tom

18th Century Royal deeds source (America)

jrsweetman — 27 Apr 2006 12:09:56 GMT

I recently ran across a turn-of-the century news article that describes a deed granted by George III in 1700 to one of my ancestors (Cornelius Thompson) in Monmouth County, New Jersey, US. Of course, the deed itself is now long gone. Does anyone know of any sources for royal deeds of that period where I might find a copy today?

STEWART family tree

rose roberts — 8 Mar 2006 5:46:37 GMT

Hi , can anyone help me find out anything about MARY VIOLET STEWART b.c.1884 , possible in Lancs . I know she married Albert Yates in 1901 in Leigh , Lancs . Her fathers name was JOHN STEWART . I cant find a birth cert anywhere . Ive only just started my family tree and im already stuck ! Any info would be really great , please help me !!!!! Regards Rose

Howland ancestry of the Russells

Henry Berg — 15 Feb 2005 9:05:56 GMT

Can anyone provide information on the Howland ancestry of Elizabeth Howland, heiress of Streatham and wife of Wriothesley Russell, 2 Duke of Bedford? Her parents are given in CP as John Howland, of Streatham, and Elizabeth, dau. of Sir Josiah Child, 1 Baronet. The IGI (not a particularly reliable source) identifies John’s father as Geoffrey Howland. A2A shows a collection of Howland documents preserved by the Duke of Bedford, which curiously seem to pertain to two distinct (but probably related) Howland families.

Hobbs who owned Steel Mills in London

radocay — 7 Nov 2005 4:18:52 GMT

There is a tale in our family that there were owners of Steel Mills in the London area . These Hobbs were thought to be Lords or nobility of some sort. There appeared to have been some family falling out and then ancestors came to America. How can I find any records to prove if this was true???Thanks.

Where is Queen Victoria ?

hughwatkins — 9 Oct 2005 12:15:43 GMT

Victoria was born at Kensington Palace, London, on 24 May 1819

On William IV's death in 1837, she became Queen at the age of 18
her husband, Prince Albert, whom she married in 1840

1841

???

1851

H R H Francis Albert Augustus Charles Emanuel abt 1820 Head St George Hanover Square Middlesex

shows the way

Her Majesty Alexandrina Victoria abt 1820 Palace, Kensington Wife St George Hanover Square Middlesex

at Buckingham Palace
HO107/1478 645 19

1861

Victoria R abt 1820 Kensington, Middlesex, England Head Whippingham Hampshire

Osbourne Palace
RG9/653 48 1

1871
Her Majesty the Queen abt 1820 Head New Windsor Berkshire

Folio: 103
Page: 1
Folio: 103
Page: 1
194 people listed

1881
Queen The abt 1820 Head Windsor Castle Berks, Windsor Castle, Berkshire, England
RG11/1325 98 1
131 people listed

1891
away in the South of France

Victoria died at Osborne House on the Isle of Wight, on 22 January 1901 after a reign which lasted almost 64 years, the longest in British history

1901
dead and buried

Janet Stewart of Perthshire

hollysmum — 12 Oct 2005 1:52:51 GMT

Hi everybody

I have received information that my 15th great grandmother, Janet Stewart - b abt 1502 in Perthshire - was the daughter of King James IV of Scotland and Margaret Tudor. However in every tree that I can find, she is not listed. Can someone either confirm or disprove this info for me please.

Thanks

Cathy
Australia

8th Duke Marlborough, George Charles Spencer-Churchill

NancyJones52 — 29 Sep 2005 9:26:15 GMT

What kind of a man was 8th Duke of Marlborough? I can't find much about him. Did the 8th Duke of Marlborough have a gambling problem? NJJ

Question on occupation

gean10331 — 7 Aug 2005 1:30:34 GMT

I'm looking to see if anyone is familiar with an occupation entitled "harness maker to the crown." Have found documentation that g-g-grandfather and three generations before him, from 1880's back, held that position. All reports indicate he and his ancestors lived in Scotland before coming to U.S. in 1880's. Any info would be helpful. Thank you.

Richard I & Other Famous People

Avon4menow — 25 Jun 2001 8:54:10 GMT

Any info of the names...
please e-mail me.
I have some info but would like to find out all that I can.
Would especially like photos, historical docouments, land records that can be up-loaded. Will share my info with you.

Line of Descent from Clovis I to Saint Maragaet Queen of Scotland

jferren1 — 16 Jul 2005 3:23:03 GMT

I am a descendant of Saint Margaret Queen of Scotland (1045-1093) and on page 147 of "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700", seventh edition, it states, that Margaret was a descendant of Clovis I. What is the line of descent from Clovis I to Saint Margaret?

Taaffe Family -- Earls of Carlingford

pandoras_thread — 23 Sep 2002 2:46:21 GMT

I am looking for information or charts on the Taaffe family who came from Wales to Ireland around 1196.

Questions about David I,King of Scotland

tjs_sunshine — 10 Mar 2005 1:35:10 GMT

I am a decendent of David I king of Scotland.I really would like to find out more about him and the family .If anyone can help me I would appresheate it...Thankyou

Edinburgh Castles

stuartthegood — 2 Jun 2005 1:52:11 GMT

my fav ezine has an article about the castles of Edinburgh with some nice pics.

http://www.iatwm.com/200506/Edinburgh/index.html

relation to Prince Philip

Rachel F. — 17 Mar 2006 1:44:28 GMT

My last name is Fountain and while I was idly researching Prince William's family tree, I noticed something.
There seem to be a few women of the Fountain/Fontaine name that married into the Battenburg lineage that Prince Philip, the Queen's husband comes from.
Does anyone have any other information to share on this?
It would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Lucius Cary Lord Falkland

Napias77 — 12 Feb 2005 6:33:37 GMT

I am looking for any information regarding lineage descending FROM Lucius Cary, Lord Falkland.
Thank you,
Fran

Queen Victoria's diaries/letters: Dettmann/Kroll entries

EBD11 — 14 Apr 2005 10:00:38 GMT

When Queen Victoria’s second son Alfred, Duke of Edinburgh visited Australia in 1867 he carried a Letter of Introduction to German immigrants Louis Dettmann and his wife Agnes (nee Kroll). Originally from Berlin, the Dettmanns had arrived in Sydney in 1849 and Louis became a naturalised British citizen in 1860. The Letter of Introduction had been written by William I, King of Prussia (later Emperor of Germany), whose son Frederick was married to Alfred’s sister Victoria.

I would be interested to know whether Queen Victoria mentions the names Dettmann or Kroll in any of her diaries or letters in the period shortly before 1867. As it is extremely difficult to research such things from Australia, I wondered whether anyone on the list has access to these documents and would be prepared to do a lookup for me.

Belinda in Sydney

Duke Houghton change to Howton-HELP!

Candice Blair — 30 Aug 2004 3:56:51 GMT

I was told this story about this British Duke.
Duke Houghton's parents were very up into status and snobby so he ran away to America and changed the spelling of his name to Howton. Then I think he went along the Oregon trail and through Virginia. Some generations later, my
great-great-great grandfather, Joel Howton was a professor at Corvalus University in Oregon. If you have any info on this, please help!

The Queen's stable boys

Saundra_Middleton — 11 Feb 2005 6:01:33 GMT

I am wondering how can I research if a relative worked for a former Queen of England as a stable boy? Are there government lists of employees for Her Majesty? Particularly looking for Alfred Middleton in the 1800's.

Saxe-Gotha Arms

pier66 — 26 Nov 2005 5:12:56 GMT

Wondering if anyone is up on their Hanoverian and Saxon heraldry.

I was looking at one of the Royal Palm Prints, from the early 18th century. The one that is labeled "To Her Royal Highness, the Princess of Wales" has what looks like a Saxe-Gotha crest on it. Since the corresponding print for the Prince of Wales is to Frederick (son of George II, who died before succession), and he was married to Augusta of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg, then the crest would make sense.

However, on the Palm print, the crest is shown with lions rampant in the 1st, 6th and 11th, which are facing sinister. That seemed very odd to me, and I was wondering if anyone knew if this was a correct blazon, or if it was artist taking license.

The Earl of Craven

brucesnell157 — 17 Jan 2005 4:45:53 GMT

Can anybody help? I am looking for information on the family's of the Earls Of Craven . My Grandfathers Great Aunt was Sister to the Earl Of Craven, but i cannot find the Connection. His grandmother was Annis Craven Who married James Earnshaw. who in turn gave birth to Craven Earnshaw my great grandfather. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bruce.

Theobald lineage

Dale — 4 Jan 2004 5:10:13 GMT

Does anyone have any information of the Theobalds? My wife's great grand parents were Theobalds. My father-in-law talked about that in the times of Queen Elizabeth I that the Theobalds were among her favored.

Is the English Royalty descended from the Prophet Muhammad

Whittinger — 13 Jun 2006 4:41:31 GMT

Does anyone know the lineage and link between the British Royal Family and the Moorish royal family?
I heard some years ago on TV that Queen Elizabeth II is descended from the Prophet Muhammad through the Spanish and the Old Moorish Dynasties in Spain.
HELP!

Banbury

Chuck — 11 Aug 2004 3:10:18 GMT

Hi y'all,

I am not a "wannabee" royalist, but just discovered that my GGgrandmother, Susan Banbury, was born in England April 24, 1856 and emigrated to the US early on. Query-is there a Banbury link to British peerage? Just curious, realizing that not everyone in the British Isles is of noble origin.
any ifo appreciated.

Joan De Comyn

Ann Roots — 7 Jul 2006 2:58:40 GMT

Hello I wonder can anyone put me straight. I am compiling a large chart to include my Mackenzie ancestors and the connection to the royal houses of England and Scotland. I am having trouble with the line back from Joan Comyn who married David 11th Earl of Athol. I have seen two possible ways of connecting to the Balliol family put forward by various people. Any help would be great.
Thank you

Ladies in waiting

Martin_Graves — 9 May 2004 8:40:33 GMT

Not exactly Royalty blood, but hopeful on leads.

Family lore has it one heirloom item passed thru generations was a gift from Royal to ancestor who servered as "lady in waiting". Is / Was there lists maintained on this position in 1700's that I could review? The item is no longer available either, must have been sold off by family member within last 40 years.

Is this true?

Thomas Shelly — 19 Apr 2004 8:31:32 GMT

I have found a story about very early royalty in the british isles and wondered if it is true.

the story says that a king named Arviragus on the british isles around 50AD, and that he caused so much trouble for the romans that Claudius I, emperor of rome, sent his daughter to marry Arviragus to bring peace. Claudius' daughter was named either Genuissa, Guinessa, or Genissa...which was the origin of the name Vanessa.

Geoffrey of Monmouth wrote a story of this happening, but his stories are known to contain some myths with some facts. there is also mention of an Arviragus in writings from rome in Juvenal 4.127, but this makes no mention of him being a king or that the daughter of Claudius was sent to marry him.

Supposedly, this same Arviragus gave Joseph of Arimathea land at glastonbury to build the first monastery in britain.

Gentleman Usher of the Scarlet Rod, Order of the Bath: I found the name!

Susan — 15 Mar 2004 8:22:20 GMT

Hello Everyone,

It's Midterm Week in Library School and I have 5 large assignments due this coming week. Plus, I'm looking for a job! Yikes!

Wanted to let you know that I found the answer to the question: "Who is the Gentleman Usher of the Scarlet Rod, Order of the Bath."

It's Rear-Adm. I.R. Henderson, CB, CBE

I found it listed in a book called Whitaker's Almanack (p. 78), which by the way, is an excellent source for information about British heraldry. It gives the names of the principal players within various Orders and other divisions.

It's published in London by A&C Black. I found it in the 2004 edition. It was listed in the index under "Orders of Chivalry." I don't know anything about heraldry, but started reading and I think I noticed mention of Order of the Bath as being one of the Orders of Chivalry. That's how I thought to look under that.

Anyway, thanks for your many e-mails. I was unable to find the information online. I guess that's what they're trying to train us to do in library school, anyway, know what printed resources to.

One more question: I am posting this message by replying to a reply to my message. I try to access the Digests,but my new internet provider (ComCast) has some sort of screen and won't let me see the posts because they might be "dangerous." Can't remember the exact error message. Has anyone had problems accessing the list?

I plan to contact Comcast when I have time (not for awhile).

Take care.

Susan Snowdon
Chicago, IL USA

Who is the Gentleman Usher of the Scarlet Rod, Order of the Bath?

Another Frustrated Student — 12 Mar 2004 6:15:03 GMT

Hi,

I read with interest "The Frustrated Student"'s message wanting to know the members of the royal family.

Now I have a similar "stumper." Who is the Gentleman Usher of the Scarlet Rod, Order of the Bath?

I looked all over the Internet and only found info re: Order of the Bath. Couldn't find anything on "Gentleman Usher" or "Scarlet Rod." In Shakespeare's Merry Wives of Windsor, there's mention of an Usher of the Black Rod.

Does anyone know where I can look -- either on the Internet or in a book?

Thanks very much.

finding a complete family tree of the british royal family

A Frustrated Student — 22 Feb 2004 10:45:25 GMT

i need to find a complete family tree and can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I could? It needs to start with Queen Victoria and Albert and continue till present day.

About Queen Elizabeth

rachel — 4 Oct 2000 10:54:35 GMT

do any one have a list of names who was invited
to Queen Elizabeth's Coronation when she first
became a Queen?
i believe my great-great grandparent from
denmark was invited but didn't go. i don't have
their name.

rachel
rrfoster00@msn.com

Inheritance of Personality Traits in British Royalty

ABenis — 10 Oct 2003 3:34:12 GMT

Greetings --

Visitors to this Board may be interested in a new web site and Message Board dealing with the tracing of genetic personality traits in British Royal family pedigrees:

http://EuropeanRoyalty.homestead.com

Our interest in particular is the transmission of "narcissism" as a genetic trait.

Regards,

A.M. Benis, Sc.D., M.D.

Weatherup/Waldrup, Physician at court of K. David of Scotland?

Gregory P. Weatherup — 7 Dec 2003 11:01:25 GMT

Aloha,

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to find out about a Physician at the court of King David (I think the first) of Scotland (or more correct for the time, the King of Scotia)?

I recently was given a copy of a document that claims that Weatherup was originally Waldrup and that the first Waldrup was a physician in the court of King David and they were of the Stuart clan. The document claims that this was "checked in Scotland" but gives no proof or reference of this check.

thanks,

Greg Weatherup

100th Birthday Tradition

lafamiglia736780 — 22 Jan 2005 3:06:40 GMT

Does anyone know how long the tradition of the monarchy sending out congratulations to subjects over the age of 100 has been going on?
Many thanks
DEB

Buckingham Palace Guards

mylet — 3 Oct 2003 4:29:12 GMT

Is there a list where I can lookup former guards? I was always told a relative served as a guard but I do not know if it is true.

How does one discover where a member of the Royal Family was in 4th Qtr 1774/1st Qtr 1775?

lindsayclubb — 27 Sep 2003 10:12:19 GMT

I would like to know, as closely as possible, the movements of William Henry, Duke of Gloucester, between October 1774 and January 1775 - can anyone help me?

Earl of Stansbury

betty13538 — 9 Dec 2003 8:31:41 GMT

Can anyone tell me where to find information about an Earl of Stansbury in late 1700's. His daughter Hannah was my ggggrandmother. Don't even know where Stansbury is.

Looking for names of English princes

Anjali — 11 Aug 2003 3:20:29 GMT

I recently visited the Tower of London, where I was fascinated by a historical timeline on a wall. One panel was about a prince who died young, at about 18 years or so. There was a painting of him, and the death may have been from a horse accident. He had a younger brother, who was sickly, and yet grew up to take the throne, if I remember correctly. Does this sound familiar to anybody?

Eleanor of Aquitaine Cdn descendant

Alannah Ryane — 7 Feb 2003 1:41:54 GMT

Looking for a Canadian descendant of Eleanor of Aquitaine for a tv documentary. Please contact me if you are interested.

Queen Victoria's visit to Monaghan

Jack Storey — 5 Jul 2003 11:41:51 GMT

A relative of mine who died in 1986 at the age of 96 insisted that Queen Victoria visited Monaghan at the turn of 1900 and stayed at Mount Louise House with the Evatts. He also claimed that the only person permitted to sit in her presence was George Evatt who had sufficiently high ranking.
My relative claims that she visited Monaghan to unveil a War Memorial in the town.
Any confirmation of this would be appreciated.

Assination attempt of George III

sjoule — 9 Jul 2002 5:51:02 GMT

Can anyone tell me where I might find out more about an apparent assination attempt on George III abt 1775, A ancestor of mine one Thomas BONSALL a lead miner of Wales apparently foiled the attempt and was knighted in 1796 by George third. That's all the details I have. I'd love to know how he managed it.

HADSON /HUDSON / PERRY

KayeVernon58 — 11 Mar 2004 2:12:49 GMT

am researching the name Hadson. The first sign in Australia was the marriage of my gtgt grandfather in Australia in 1874. He states that he was born here, but I have been unable to prove this.
A family story was that our forebears were from Scotish Royalty and the man in question had a liason with a woman from the circus. His parents told him to go to Australia if he wanted to continue the liason and they would provide for him. If he stayed in Scotland he would be disowned.
Now, I am not sure how acurate this story is, but they claim that he was told to change his name slightly eg one letter.
I would be very happy for any help you can give me.
Kaye Vernon nee HADSON

BOOTH-LaZOUCHE Connection?

John Dodd — 11 Mar 2004 2:43:11 GMT

I am descended from Richard BOOTH (1606-1687) and Elizabeth HAWLEY of Connecticut. There is information "out there" that the BOOTH line is a royal line through DUTTON, SWYNNERTON & LaZOUCHE families. Is this correct or another internet myth? Any specific information would be appreciated.

British Encyclopedia of Noble Names...

barrons1973 — 12 May 2006 9:41:46 GMT

I am looking for a copy of this encyclopedia. It has been used as a reference by several genealogists (now deceased) who studied the Canfield side of my family tree. Usually the reference has been called "English Encyclopedia", but I found one reference to it as "The British Encyclopedia of Noble Names...". If anyone has heard of it or knows where I can get a copy, please share.

Thanks,
Marjorie :)

Queen Victoria

Vincent Guinta — 26 Mar 2003 6:29:43 GMT

I am a student at the University of Utah. In class we were recently asked which current European monarch is not a direct relative of Queen Victoria? If any one can healp me with this question I would ver much appriciate your expertise.

WHO WERE PARENTS OF SIR WALTER HALLIBURTON OF DIRLETON, b. 1332?

donmatson63 — 11 Mar 2004 2:36:45 GMT

Have found on internet, 2 variations as to the parents of Sir Walter Halliburton/Halyburton of Dirleton, b. 1332. Sir Walter was the father of Jean/Janet Halyburton/Halliburton b. ca. 1358 wife of Henry St. Clair/Sinclair.
Was Sir Walter's parents Adam Halliburton b. ca. 1280 d. 1337 & wife Isabel or was it Sir John Haliburton of Dirleton b. 1314 & wife Margaret Cameron?

Can we have a king named Charles?

Alaster — 14 Jan 2003 2:47:07 GMT

A friend recently told me that if Charles were to become king, his title could not be King Charles as that name was not permitted. Is this true? And if so, why? Can anyone help? Thanks.

Lady Mary Trotter

darlynn76 — 11 Mar 2004 3:00:59 GMT

I am looking for information on a Lady Mary Trotter from Fermanagh area c. 1815-1844. She married the family coachman, James Anderson, and had 6 children, John, George, James and 3 unknown girls. James, the son was born May 8, 1829. The immigrated to Canada after being attacked by Catholics in 1844. The father, James drown shortly after arrival to Canada. I am interested in Lady Mary's family. Possibly her father's name was George Trotter and he would have been a duke, an earl or a marquis. Any help would be appreciated.

Faulkener,Lady.

psstokes — 11 Mar 2004 3:14:55 GMT

"What a creature is Lady Faulkener? She will meet with her match at last."
Quotion from letter dated 24April1760 from Mrs.Delany to Mrs.Dewes.
Taken from The Autobiography and Correspondance of Mary Granville, Mrs.Delany.
Who was Lady Faulkener and what did she do?

Edward Hyde, Earl of Clarendon

jacquihogan — 11 Mar 2004 3:07:22 GMT

Edward Hyde, father of Anne Hyde wife of James II. First Earl of Clarendon.

Does anyone have information about his children? An ancestor claimed he was an ancestor via a daughter 'Lucretia'. But I can find no record of her in any of the official records e.g. Plantagenet rolls etc.

Sir Abbott Houston

ColleenKennedy67 — 30 Sep 2002 1:50:38 GMT

I am searching for Sir Abbott Houston. According to an obituary I have for my great-grandfather, Martin James Kennedy, he was the great-grandson of “Sir Abbott Houston of England.” Martin James Kennedy was born circa 1833 in Ireland to Anthony Kennedy (son of Major Peter Kennedy) and Mary Houston (granddaughter of Sir Abbott Houston). Mary Houston was born in Ireland.

Any advice re: how to trace Sir Abbott Houston? I am not familiar with tracing English/Irish nobility.

Also, if this family sounds familiar I would be pleased to exchange inforrmation with you.

Lord Carbery

Norm Clark — 20 Feb 2004 8:21:50 GMT

Looking for information on George Evans, Lord Carbery of Rosscarbery, County Cork early 1800s. Suggestions on obtaining published information or appropriate web pages.

Thanks.

Queen Victoria

Carolyn Henshall — 11 Mar 2004 3:03:54 GMT

Would like to know who the attendants were at Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's wedding.

Lady in waiting to Queen Victoria

Paula J — 12 Mar 2002 3:12:59 GMT

I believe my gggrandmother, Agnes Caroline Owen Warne, b. 11/18/1821 in England was a lady in waiting to Queen Victoria. The story handed down was she fell in love with a commoner and married (my gggrandfather, John James Elvey, b. 3/9/1819) on 5/20/1849. I have not been able to verify this or locate any information on her (ie: parents, place of birth, etc.). I would like information on where to find records of court members and ladies in waiting to Queen Victoria. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Paula J. Beckner. E-mail: PJBeckner@aol.com

Royal Medallion Inquiry

tony — 15 Oct 2002 9:04:35 GMT

To whom it may concern,

I am in possession of what appears to be a royal lineage medallion, I think of English origins. I have attachments to e-mail but I have yet to identify the ethnicity, house, age of the medallion and time of rule.

I would greatly appreciate any links or information that you may provide that could help me to obtain detailed information about this piece.

Thanks for your time,

Tony

Description:
Small silver medallion (3/4 inch diameter), hand engraved, minute details, two sided, center busts circled by additional busts with royal lineage titles around each bust, mostly legible, worn faces on busts due to protrusion outward of carving.

Side One:

Center – H.M. Queen Margaria Anderson of India

- Emperor Fredrick of Germany
- Empress Fredrick of Germany
- Alfredo Duke of Edinburgh
- Duchess of Edinburgh
- Princess Beatrice
- Prince Henry of Battenburgh
- Prince Louis of Hesse
- Princess Alice

Side Two:

Center – Two silhouetted busts, illegible

- Duke of York
- Duchess of York
- Marquis of Lorne
- Princess Louise
- Duchess of Albany
- Duke of Albany
- Duchess of Connaught
- Duke of Connaught
- Prince Christian
- Princess Helena

Quen Alexandra Of Great Britain Club

Mark — 5 Oct 2002 10:11:30 GMT

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/queenalix/

Please join the Queen Alexandra of Great Britain Appreciation Society.

Best Wishes,

Mark

King William III of England, 17th Century

Ron Cofiell — 5 Aug 2002 10:37:08 GMT

Need to know the date in 1796 of an assassination attempt on the life of King William III of England (aka William Prince of Orange). He and Queen Mary had ascended the English throne during the Glorious Revolution. She died in 1694.

Ladies in Waiting

tresco21 — 2 Jul 2001 6:21:58 GMT

You imply that Agnes Caroline Owen Warne was of a higher social standing than her husband, although she too would have been a commoner - as is everyone who isn't royalty. Have you tried Burke'e Peerage for possible Warnes? Also, can you get her mariage certificate from the Family Records Centre, which would give her father's name? Her wedding may have been reported/announced in The Times, and the court pages of that paper may have given names of ladies in waiting who attended the Queen at functions.

Queen Victoria

Teresa — 1 Aug 2000 4:02:12 GMT

my family tells that we are related to Queen Victoria via Kaiser Bill Wilhelm. Is there a way to follow the lineage forward rather than looking backwards? Just to see if we really are related?