German Nobility - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Kaiser Wilhelm lineage

Estelle — 15 Nov 2003 4:57:17 GMT

I am looking to find descendents of Kaiser Wilhelm II. It has been rumored through our family that we are distant relations, but I have yet to find the connection. Our German last name was von Rundstedt but was changed to Rundt when ancestors immigrated. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

GHdA? von Wittlinsbach

swansonville — 13 Aug 2008 3:22:28 GMT

Can someone who has access to a GHdA please check the name "von Wittlinsbach" for me? I just received a birth record for a 5xgreat-grandmother who father's name was Anton von Wittlinsbach, Statthalter of Dill (now in Rhein-Hunsrück) from 1736-1776. The record had the word "praenoblis" (of ancient nobility) before the names. I would like to find where Anton was born but this document and those of siblings give no indication where the family originated.

Need help verifying the parents of Heinrich Sigismund von der HEYDE (Prussian Colonel)

Lynn C. Merrell — 3 Mar 2003 3:41:26 GMT

I'm looking for help to verify the parents of Heinrich Sigismund von der HEYDE, who was born in 1703 at Tzsacksdorf, Niederlausitz, Prussia and died 4 May 1765 at Kolberg, Germany and buried in Marienkirche, Kolberg, Germany. He fought for King Frederick during the Seven Years War and was honored many times by him as the Defender of Kolberg. Someone told me the book The Annual of the German Nobility of 1896 shows his most likely parents as Heinrich Sigismund von der Heyde (1671-about 1740), Lord of Tzsacksdorf, and Susanne von Stutterheim (1680-1722). Can anyone help me verify this relationship so I can establish this family link and discover the rest of his family?

von Polentz

wholly174 — 1 Jun 2008 4:14:43 GMT

According to stories...

I believe either Prussian or German

The attached coat of arms belongs to the Polentz family. ???

It was gained after a battle ?????

I am told he was made a Baron for his efforts and granted this Coat of Arms (Attached)

Can anyone help me to identify or provide any ifo on this family or Coat of Arms

Thanks

Wayne

Lost Estates

cathy2103 — 2 May 2008 8:06:20 GMT

My grandfather said long ago way before he was born that his family once held estate that was lost to them.His grandfather Michael Rossin once of Hutta Tremessen d.Apr.25 1866 Freihof m.Rosalie Freihof of Freihof(Magilno,Posen,Ger.)Has anyone have any ideas where,when &why.Any of these lastnames ring a bell? I was told that its a pile of rocks overlooking town named for us,this person was told by another person-but not where.It would be associated with Rossin.Thanks for any info,Cathy

The Kaiser and his Court

ShirleeSmith44 — 23 Dec 2002 3:46:34 GMT

I have a copy of "The Kaiser and is Court, Wilhelm II and the Government of Germany" By John C. G. Rohl.

Reprinted 1997.

Some genealogy info included.

Will do look ups.

Shirlee Staires Smith

von baron?

jackiecoombs — 22 May 2003 6:14:58 GMT

Has anyone heard of this name??

House of Hannover

cadillac53 — 2 Apr 2008 10:50:22 GMT

Can anyone assist me in verifying that the Hohn family of Cologne (Koeln) in Germany is related to the House of Hannover? I understand that my great grandfather Heinrich Hohn sold his title (viscount? or similar) during the first world war to a family member.
If any German resident researchers would prefer to write back in German it would be okay.

Hohenzollern Royals

House of Frederic — 25 Nov 2004 4:24:32 GMT

A number of persons of german ancestry do have some distant connection to royal and noble lineage.

Some may be related by marriage into said families and have children of that union. Therefore the blood line between the commoner and nobility/royal lines descends down to some.

Certain Hohenzollern past royals did inherit by genetic means a rare gene that also descended into the past and present British and Russian Romanov Royals.

One way of verifiying if a person may be related to royal lines is by DNA, the other by verifying if the specific gene that sometimes becomes visible may have been inherited by themselves or their ancestors.

W. Bowman
on behalf of The House of Frederic

von Königshaus

DonnaKnowles64 — 10 Jan 2008 12:13:36 GMT

My father too said his family came from nobility and had to take von off their name during WWII. He said his father came from Vienna and his mother from Hindenburg, Germany.
Can anyone point me in the right direct? I would like to find their birth/death certificates and any nobility type history during WWII and why the (von) was taken off?

Thanks very much,
Donna

von Hassel

vonhassel — 25 Mar 2002 12:58:15 GMT

I was wondering if anyone has come across any von Hassel's. I have been trying to research this family for a number of years and keep running into dead ends. The problem lies that my Grandfather passed away a few weeks before my Dad was born and for some reason they did not stay in touch with the von Hassel side of the family. I have just ordered a bunch of microfilm from LDS for our area in Northern Germany.

sounds like vonBronkufsku?

samferris11 — 22 Aug 2007 4:05:49 GMT

I'm posting this to several boards hoping to find a lead. We have no record of my great-great grandmother's maiden name, only what my mother and grandfather remembered it sounded like - von Bronkufsku, which could be a very butchered version, but I'm hoping someone can help.

I know there is debate whether the "von" means from a specific town or area or has to do with royalty. Does it sound at all familiar? Even a slight similarity to a name you're familiar with?

Little background - Anna von Bronkufsku was born around 1864 in Germany according to the 1920 and 30 censuses and arrived in NY around 1885. She married Bernhardt Seidel, unclear whether this was in Europe or America; his arrival date is a few years earlier. Anna died in 1934 in Brooklyn, as evidenced by the NY Death index.

Any inkling would be great!

Surname: Von Dernburg (modern Derenburger, etc.)

Jessica — 12 Apr 2004 2:54:15 GMT

I was just writing to see if any one had information on this name. I have seen a few web sites and a family book that place the coming of our family to America in the early 17th century. I have found information on the web concerning a Derenburger forest in Germany that I assume to be a remnant of the family name. Or does anyone have information as to how I could more throughly trace this name in Germany?

Martini Family & Leiningen-Westerburg Family of Schadeck Castle

toddwhitesides1 — 20 Jul 2007 6:45:18 GMT

I am attempting to establish the identity of Magdalena, wife of Johann Andreas Martini of Schadeck Castle in Grafschaft Westerburg. She married him there on 5 Aug 1651, bore three sons, and was buried there on 31 Mar 1658.

Her first son Georg Wilhelm Martini was christened there 9 Jan 1653, with his godmother being Juliana Walpurgis, Fraulein zu Leiningen-Westerburg [daughter of Christoph (1575-1635), Graf zu Leiningen-Westerburg, by his wife Philippina Catharina Walpurgis (d.1647) zu Wied und Runkel].

Her second son Simon Philipp Martini was christened there 5 Nov 1654, and his godparents included: (1) Sophia Elisabetha (1626-1688) zu Lippe, Graefin zu Leiningen-Westerburg [wife of Georg Wilhelm (1619-1695), Graf zu Leiningen-Westerburg], (2) Simon Philipp (1646-1670) zu Leiningen-Westerburg [eldest son of Georg Wilhelm (1619-1695)], (3) Johannes Valentin Holweg, praeceptor aulicus, and (4) Anna Christina, wife of Samuel Schlosser, chaplain of Schadeck. Simon Philipp Martini married Elisabetha Catharina Ackermann (1657-1728) on 24 Jan 1682 at Schadeck, and was buried there 11 Feb 1729.

My question is~
Given the godparents of Magdalena's children, was she the same Magdalena who was born 21 Sep 1613 at Schaumburg in Grafschaft Schaumburg to Christoph zu Leiningen-Westerburg by his wife Philippina Catharina Walpurgis zu Wied und Runkel? This placement would make her the sister of Juliana Walpurgis mentioned above, the sister-in-law of Sophia Elisabetha mentioned above, and the aunt of Simon Philipp zu Leiningen-Westerburg.

My descent from Simon Philipp Martini is through his daughter Anna Juliana [fourth of nine children] who was christened at Schadeck 21 May 1689. She married her first husband Johann Adam Schreiber there on 25 Nov 1707, and her second Johann Ludwig Schmidt 2 Sep 1710 also there. She was buried at Schadeck 9 Jun 1740.

Any assistance is appreciated.

german nobility and status

Baldwinchris1 — 16 May 2007 8:11:08 GMT

my mother's family went by the name of harz/hartz/von hartz in the united states, and i have verified that it was von hartz in germany. There is family history of nobility or royalty in the family. The family links have stalled with a man named levin von hartz who is described as a "Kuster Harm". He had a son named levin christian von hartz in 1721. The family is in the winzlar, dudensen, brokeloh area and i am trying to track down anyone with any ideas or insights or by sheer luck a family connection. thanks

searching for the "French Duke" in our German family history...please help

Ashenbrudel — 31 Aug 2005 2:35:16 GMT

Our German family history includes a French Duke that is a mystery at this point. Our family tree had been traced to the 1500's and was loaned to a fellow researcher by an elderly Aunt who then passed away - It's been essentially lost for several years now ,so we must start somewhere. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what resources I should try to identify this fellow? Our Koerner family homestead was Agneshoff and our GGGGF Adolph Koerner recieved an OB medical doctorate from possibly a school in Prussia, in 1835. Any info would be much appreciated.

Searching Erbach/Arbaugh family information

jooi2uandme — 6 May 2006 12:41:27 GMT

I'm trying to track down the history of the Harrison County, Iowa, Arbaugh's. I think I have determined that the came from the Virgina's originally and it was two brothers who immigrated here, but I'm not sure when. I am also pretty sure that they left Germany on religious terms, but I am uncertain of their city where they came from. Also, I believe that they were Erbach's in Germany, and more than likely came from the von Erbach's. Any help would be delightful! Thanks!

Looking for possible Von Papen relatives

dschmidt85 — 11 Nov 2006 9:15:02 GMT

I'm looking for any relatives from the von Papen family of Werl in Westphalia.

My great grandmother was Tereza von Papen, aunt of the famous Franz von Papen as the story goes. She married a middle class merchant (Schmidt) from Bavaria. He died when she was pregnant with my grandfather. They left Germany via Hamburg around 1894 when they arrived in New York. She later worked as a seamstress in Philadelphia with her in-laws. They then traveled to El Paso and then Los Angeles.

If anyone knows about anything about the von Papen family, please e-mail me at dschmidt@san.rr.com

Thanks!

Dusseldorf esquires last anme EMELE or EMILE whereabouts?

jacqueline — 9 Nov 2006 12:36:23 GMT

looking for history on German family EMELE from Dusseldorf area in Germany. Tryign to determine if part of the nobility in the time.

Re: [GERMAN-NOBILITY] von dem Bussche

Yvonne — 7 Oct 2002 8:37:22 GMT

Hisotrical Literature about German Nobility

Inger — 10 Sep 2006 4:26:25 GMT

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew of any good books or other materials about the how the German Nobility lived and interacted in the last 1000 years. I have found some interesting web pages on German Nobility, some general books on German history and a lot of books on English Nobility so far, but that is it. I think that would be more interesting to me to start with rather than just knowing a bunch of names and birthdates of ancestors. I pretty much know that my Von side of the family lived in the same area for at least 700 years and what they did for a living; that my mother came to US after the bad experience of WWII.

Also wondering if anyone knows of any Von ancestors that came directly to America. I know in England that a lot of royal 2nd sons came to the US, but I was wondering if, since the German system divided property differently, if the Vons pertty much stayed in Germany until a female relative married out of the system or until WWII.

Thanks,
Inger

german nobility???

vivvie — 8 Feb 2004 7:00:50 GMT

does anyone have any info on the surname von Zänglein
possibly Willy von Zänglein born before 1850

Baron's of Prandau Hilleprand?

Tibor Vorosmarty — 30 Dec 2005 6:31:37 GMT

Does anyone know of information to the Baron's of Prandau or Prandaui Baro? I'm looking for more information on the branch that lived either in Prandau, Bohemia or Vienna - there was another branch in Croatia as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Can anyone help me...

kat13478 — 31 May 2004 10:05:46 GMT

I'm looking for a certain family of German nobility, particualrly any information about one man: Baron Christian Von Hauxthousen Carnitz. All i have is his name, and a portrait. Does anyone know where i can find out more about this family?

Kleinsang Wokel

htrump6704 — 20 Jan 2005 7:00:44 GMT

I have an Ancestry that has roots back to Germany 1883-1884 ( Ship Manefest)
Searching the Internet ( Keyword "Kleinsang" ) yields hits showing there may be connection to this surname with Royalty .

My specific interest is in books/documents that could connect MY J. C. H. Kleinsang to the Kleinsangs in 1700's Germany.
His wife's name is Dorothea/Dorathea Wokel Kleinsang (b aprox. 1850's. I have Dorothea's siblings names from a Family Bible as Henry, Hanna, Elizabeth. Dora's Children are listed as from Altona, Prussia?, Germany. Their names are Henrietta, Henry, Fernanda, Fredrika. I see there is a section of W Hamburg by the name Altona. Could this be a match?
I'm not up to speed on the various boundaries of that era.
Where in Germany( Hamburg ) could I write for birth records from 1870's to 1885. There is also a couple of hits in Ellis Island in the early 1900 indicating a return to the Old Country. ( Perhaps to visit their kins and friends for the last time)

Thanks
H Trump

Descendants of Konrad Werner von Hattstatt-a Knight in Alsace

Jo Ann Hatstat — 29 May 2005 10:16:36 GMT

I am trying to find out more history of the Knight-Konrad Werner Von Hattstatt who lived in what is today "Hattstatt, France" but at the time he lived there the area belonged to Germany. I am trying to find the missing generations from Konrad to my ancestor--Johann Heinrich Hattstatt in Germany about the end of the 1600's. This is about 10 0r 11 generations. some of his children moved to Basel, Switzerland and some married into a "Phirt" family. I know there were about 8 children but do not have all their names or any of their deacendants. Can anyone help me with his genealogies??? I would appreciate this very much.
Sincerely;
Jo Ann Hatstat
jo@vermontel.net

Princess Wilhelmina of Germany

christinefisher67 — 1 May 2005 10:22:25 GMT

looking for links, family of the late Princess wilhelmina of Germany.Also remarried to surname Bird. also known as 'Minnie'. Have new email address: fisherchris24@optusnet.com.au formerly @yahoo.com.
12.4.05.
Christine - Hunter Valley NSW Australia.

Tracing nobility

agoulter1 — 23 Jul 2004 11:07:04 GMT

Hello all
My name is Alexandra & I have been trying to trace some of my family from Germany.
I am looking for any information about the name Reifferscheidt & von Reifferscheidt. My father's Grandfather on his mother's side was a Count. His father was a Count also and was born in or around the castle village of Reifferscheidt in Eifel, Germany. It is also said they were von Reifferscheidt. Later the name was westernised to Reiffer before they moved to India.
How does one verify if ones relatives were Counts etc. I have no reason to doubt what I have been told but I would like to know where it says these people were Counts.
Does the "von" carry through to other family members?

I would appreciate any help or guidance.
Cheers
Alexandra

German Nobility

Cindi O'May — 19 Mar 2005 2:13:27 GMT

I was wondering if you had any luck find alternative websites
in tracking your Family tree? I too am having problems tracking my family which I was told was related to Kaiser Wilhelm. I can't find a site that shows his siblings names.
Looking for a connection surnames schutt (john,wilhelmina)
also Rohde (Charles-parents Crist and Ernestine) all listing
for Charles Rohde, John and ? Wilhelmina only state Germany as birthplace on us paperwk. Any Help would be greatly appreciated. please em me at my listed em address
Cindi

Lucie Brockdorff - parents?

tottrup — 8 Mar 2005 11:38:16 GMT

One of my ancestors is Lucie or Lucia Brockdorff.
She was married to Daniel Von Buchwald (Johannstorf).

In the Danish Nobility Book (Den Danske Adelsårbog) her parents are not mentioned but she is from Tralau.

www.familysearch.org has her as: Lucie Brockdorff born 1586 or 1587 at Tralau with the parents Joachim Brockdorff and Benedicte Reventlow.

I need to know if this is correkt.

Best regards
Laila from Denmark

von Gaudy family of Prussia

Tony Haslam — 5 Jun 2002 3:52:32 GMT

Does anyone know any von Gaudys living today in Germany? I would very much like to trace someone who comes from the family. In the 1700's they played a major part in Prussian History including 2 Generals and one of Germany's famous poets: Baron Franz von Gaudy.

Please can anyone help me?

Thanks, Tony Haslam

de RACHEWILTZ, "German Russian" royals

S. Runyon — 20 Dec 2004 12:09:26 GMT

Seeking information on the de RACHEWILTZ royal line. Prince Boris de R was a well regarded Egyptologist who settled in Tirol in the 1950's. What was he prince of? Where does this line orginate from?

Royalty/Nobility Genealogy web sites...

anonmartin — 12 Aug 2004 6:12:53 GMT

I've been able to find plenty of books with royal/noble genealogy, but do any of you know where these family trees can be located online in a fairly comprehensive collection?

Posible web sites for finding German Nobility not Royalty

hnlodge — 27 Nov 2004 12:45:55 GMT

I am seeking possible websites where I can trace families of German Nobility (not royalty) in and around Berlin and Magdeburg. I have traced some information from the Berlin.de, Magdeburg.de and Alemann Association websites but feel there might be an alternative site where the information is held in a database and therefor not found by doing a search engine find on the surname.

Many of the ancestors I am interested in were of 'the ruling class' in German History being rulers of their cities and influential within financial circles. Some had contact with the Kiser and others were religious leaders.

Any help would be appreciated,

Hugh Lodge
Essex, England.

Nobel Names of interest:
von ALEMANN, von BLANKENFELD, von CLAUSWITZ, von der GROSSEN, von GUERICKE, von KELLER, von SYBORG, von WINS

John Parish (1742-1829) von Senftenberg

cphipps168 — 5 Oct 2004 11:36:30 GMT

Can anyone provide details of the ancestry of this man, a Hamburg banker, or of his wife Henrietta Tod, whom he married in 1768?

A GERMAN PRINCE...plz. help!

sportgurl17 — 30 Jul 2004 5:30:22 GMT

My ancestor (born in 1802) was a cousin to the queen of Holland, a lady in waiting, and a member of the Royal House of Holland. She fled to America to avoid marrying a German prince.
What exactly would it have meant to be a 'German prince' at that time?

Also, what were the rules concerning royal marriage at that time, and what would it have meant to refuse to marry?

What would have to be her likely nobility in order to have an arranged marriage with a German prince?

Any input, ideas, facts, or info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

terminology

Terry — 1 Sep 2004 9:50:07 GMT

I have a greandfather who says in a letter his mother was married in "morgantenic hashion to Count Arthur vonBartens-lehen.
What does that term mean?
I am looking for information on Anton Wiedeman the son of Johann Wiedman or Wiedemann and Sophia Schappe
He states the origination was in EastFrisia on the Nord Sea.

Kimerling-Hohenzollern link

lanecoward — 4 Nov 2004 11:37:43 GMT

Trying to see if there is any connection between Johan Kimerling born 1814 in Wurtenburg, Baden, Germany; his wife Caroline Huber born 1814 in Wurtenburg, Baden, Germany; and the Hohenzollern family. I would appreciate any help or guidance anyone can give me.

von Hohenfeldt, Wiltberg or Breidtbach-Burresheim

JamesvPrice — 24 Oct 2004 4:45:16 GMT

Does any one connect with these Mosel Families?

Baron Bush of Stuttgart

David Gadd — 31 Jul 2004 1:10:43 GMT

A reference book claims that one of my family lines "...trace their ancestry to Baron Bush, the wealthy nobleman of Stuttgart, Germany; one of the daughters of this family married a Bonaparte of France." Does anyone have any information that could help me track down Baron Bush (Busch?) and this family, or disprove the story? Thanks.

family

dee — 7 Dec 2003 4:21:24 GMT

my family's last name lohrmann and some one told me that there was royal blood...if n e onecould help that be cool

lost town and name

ElissaKendall — 23 Aug 2003 3:57:26 GMT

I don't want to waste anyone's time but my great granddad was a Von Treskow from a town Cunnesdorf. He was stuck in Australia between world wars and lost contact with every relative in Germany. I can't find Cunnesdorf or Von Treskow on the internet (spelling may be wrong!) He told Grandma that his family was aristocracy but where do i begin looking for information? Grandma would like to know more about him and his town.

Found my real name (and maybe "me" too!!)

Dale Sarff (Scharfenberg) — 28 Sep 2003 6:40:37 GMT

Greetings! In the last few years, I have found the true spelling of my last name. My ancestor came to America in 1775 from Germany. Of course it is the same story as so many others, that few spoke English, and to simplify everything, the "authorities" and the immigrant agreed in a few seconds on a name. After going through the Mormon Church Family Center files and hundreds of internet files and downloads (Microsoft has increased my memory several times), and all the CDs, it feels like I have discovered for the first time who I am. Call it premonition, a calling, or just plain crazy, but I have felt that since I was a child that I have very special roots in Germany and I now have a need to find out more. In my heart I have always felt that there was something missing. This has become my passion and I just want more information. Perhaps someone has something to share or has more links! Ironic that someone has to be 44 years old, has a family thats been in America for 228 years, and finally finds out their TRUE roots.

Reichsgraf titel in the Imperial Germany 1871?

Steve Palmquist — 19 Jul 2004 7:13:04 GMT

I had a grandmothers mother who in a book "Swedish men and women" and in a necrolog after her death 1933 was called "the German imperial countess" in a swedish newspaper. Yhis title use to be a title only for the Roman imperial nobilities before 1806 when the Roman Imperial System were abandoned. I have searched for this titel and my ancestors from this family called Martini but can´t find them in the "Gothas" (there are several Martini families but I can´t find the actual persons)
I also wonder if this titel which in German is Reichsgraf/Reichsgräfinn could be a titel that also was used after the creation of the German Imperium in 1871. Did Wilhelm I give such titels to lower ranked nobilities as a gratification for help during the earlier Prussian wars for example. Otto von Bismarck was for example ranked first a count (during the Prussian era) and later he became a "fürst" a prince.
Do anyone know about this system during the second "reich"? or how and where I can find something about it?

Sincerely Yours: Steve

Hohenzollern, Prussian/German royal family

storknurse — 4 Dec 2006 12:09:47 GMT

Saint Elizabeth of Hungary and Ludwig IV ,Duke of Thuringia

lovetotravel — 15 Mar 2004 3:01:28 GMT

A few years ago on familysearch.org I found my families pedigree. I some how clicked on a link that led to the Royal Family of Hungary . The past two years I have tried to find the link to Saint Elizabeth of Hungary and I have not been successful. I sent a letter to the source of the pedigree but she has not sent a reply.

Saint Elizabeth of Hungary
spouse: Ludwig IV, Duke of Thuringia

Parents: Andrew II,King of Hungary
Gertrud von Andechs of Meran

I believe the pedigree started with
Nathan Estabrook ( then I clicked on the following names)
Hannah Haywood
Edward Wright
Martha Bulkeley
Randall Grosvenor and Anne Charlton

If any one knows how to find out which line leads to Saint Elizabeth of Hungary please send a reply.

Thank you,
Melissa

Herzog ancestor

Eileen — 10 Mar 2004 12:17:34 GMT

Hedwig Pflugradt Gerth was the daughter of Frederick Pflugradt (b 1865), granddaughter of Ludwig Carl Pflugradt (b 1836) and Thereze Ulrike Ertene Blank (b 1834). She wrote that her great-grandfather was a Herzog and a hero in the battlefield and owned a castle. I do not have his name, but am looking for any leads.

looking for any information..

Paul — 2 Feb 2004 5:24:08 GMT

I am looking for information regarding Hermann Joseph Wendorff Bauer, born in October 11, 1845 in Berlin and also his parents
Karl Wendorff and Dorothe Bauer both from Berlin. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Atte.
Paul

von Walderdorff

Kristin — 18 Jun 2003 1:32:17 GMT

I am curious if anyone has information regarding the history (family tree) of the von Walderdorff family in Germany. I have information back to Johann Daniel von Walderdorff who came to America in 1805. The name was changed to Waltersdorff. I am hoping to go back further to the family that was in Germany and as far as I know was noblility. Even when I do regular internet queries, I come up with names of noblility today. However, nothing I am finding is extremely helpful. If anyone has any helpful information I would really appreciate it! Thanks.

lady in waiting to queen Elizabeth

lydsong — 17 Apr 2006 11:00:06 GMT

We have a family heirloom of a wedding veil given as a gift to my great grandmother Anna Hasenbalg of Hannover by a Lady Mary Brickstoke (or Marie Brigstock, or Mary Bridgstock) who was a Lady-in Waiting to Queen Elizabeth of Hungary (19th century) or possibly Queen Elizabeth of Roumania (also 19th century). We might know which Queen gave this veil if we could have access to her ladies in waiting names. Any ideas how to find names of the royal court.

Von Kamp and Bresser

Jerry Bresser — 18 Oct 2003 4:48:02 GMT

Does anyone have -- or can help me find -- information regarding the Von Kamp history.

What I have is ... My great grand mother was Maria Elizabeth von Kamp before she married Herrmann Becker, at which time she lost her nobility status. My notes show that she had a brother Johann Henrich Von Kamp, borne June 16, 1828 and died 1910 in Detroit Michigan, USA.

Their father was Herman Adam Von Kamp, born in Ruhrort, 1796, died in Mulherm,1867. He married Catharine Rottgen. Handwritten notes by my father show he or she was a schoolteacher.

Herman Adam's father was Jacob Von Kamp, born about 1764 and died April 17,1830. He married Elizabeth Nusmann.

I'm trying to find Jacob's father and mother and any generations prior to that.

I'm also trying to find out what everybody did for an occupation and the circumstances of their nobility. I am presuming nobility rather than royalty, but I could be wrong.

On the Bresser side, my grandfather was Gerhard Bresser, born 1846, died 1920 in Detroit. He married Elizabeth Becker, daughter of Hermann Becker and Maria Elizabeth (Von Kamp) Becker.

Gerhard's father was Gottfried Bresser, born 1815, died 1892. He married Louise Quack, born 1819, died 1894.

I would like to find Gottfried's parents and any generations prior to that.

The LDS website shows a whole bunch of Bressers, including Gottfried and Gerhard, as having been born, christened, married in Hocknukirch. I suspect that some of the Bresser's are brothers to Gottfried, but have not proven that as yet.

Any help much appreciated.

Jerry Bresser
jbresser@flash.net

von Essens of Germany

Tom T. — 12 Oct 2003 2:01:08 GMT

Does anyone have any information on the von Essens of Germany? I know there were some Count von Essens in Sweden, a Russian Admiral von Essen around the first WW I and some v. Essens in Finland. Where did the family originate, were they freiherrs (barons), grafs (counts) or various branches and levels?

Thank you.

Tom T.

missing relative

Karen — 3 Oct 2003 5:16:55 GMT

von King

kimslaw — 20 Sep 2003 8:25:19 GMT

Any one know about von Rabbit King/Krolikowski from Prussia/Germany

Beiels, Bruehl, Broyles, Breiels info

silverdovexx — 11 Sep 2003 9:27:53 GMT

Anyone have any info about my family being nobility? Johannes "Hans" Beiel is my earliest ancestor I have uncovered so far. His inheritance/fortune was stolen from him in the 1600's in Germany. He was born in Dusslingen, Germany. His son was Martin Breuell, born 1622. Then came Conrad Breyel, born 1652, then Hans Jacob Broyles, born 1705 in Ostesheim, Wuttenburg, Germany who married Maria Fleishman. Blessings to you for reading this post.

reclame

alex von stenzel — 23 Aug 2003 7:15:29 GMT

how can reclame my grandnfather title of freiherr?? he was prussian and die at 1950s. my email is alexvonmpt@yahoo.com.ar

von Schlanbusch

James Pratt — 27 Aug 2003 7:55:45 GMT

Trying to find information about my great aunt's husband Ove C. Schlanbusch. Her name was Dr. Margaret Sorensen and we know she was still married in 1924 to the "baron" and living in Nanicoke, Pennsylvania. I remember him being called "the Baron" and I think I remember being told he was German or Danish. Any help as to his family history or what happend to him would be greatly appreciated.

fite family

kate — 25 Feb 2003 6:35:27 GMT

I was just wondering has anyone heard of the name Fite.
If you have any information on the Fite family I would greatly appreciate it .
Thanks
Tah
Kate

Hattstatt Nobility

Jo Hatstat — 23 Aug 2003 4:23:18 GMT

I have traced the" Hattstatt" line back to Germany to about 1690's. The one who came to America during the Rovoloutionary War was said to have been "of the Nobility". In working on this name I have also discovered that in the 1000's there was a Knight--Konrad Werner von Hattstatt. There were a few of his descendants listed then the information is no longer found. Can anyone advise me how I may find more information to link the last Hattstatt that I have found record of to this Konrad Hattstatt? How may I find out if there were Hattstatt's who were Nobility??? I would also appreciate being able to discover more generations of Hattstatts of my lineage. All advice will be appreciated. Thank you very much.
Jo Ann Hatstat
jo@vermontel.net

History of "von" in German/Prussian names

katakes — 29 Jan 2002 4:25:52 GMT

Was the "von XXX" always where XXX was the place the nobleman was from?
When the the "von" start to be used?
When did people with the name "von XXX" start to show up in places other than XXX?

I have found "Albert von Werder", aka "Albertus de insula". The year mentioned is 1093. He seems to have been from Werder (an island in the Havel River between Potsdam and Brandenburg, west of Berlin), though my German isn't good enough to figure that out for sure. It seems his remains were brought from somewhere to a cloister somewhere else.

General Count von Werder was born in 1808 in East Prussia, which isn't very close to Werder.

I wonder how the family got the name "von Werder" and when and who the first "von Werder" was.

NEED HELP IDENTIFYING PICTURE

ccors111 — 16 Dec 2005 9:26:38 GMT

Hello! I am new to this message board and would like some help identifying this picture. This is a spoon that was left to me by a friend who came from Germany many, many years ago. The spoon is marked Berlin. I would like to identify the couple in the picture. On top of the pic is a crown, so I assume these people are of German nobility. Can anyone help? My e-mail address is ccors111@aol.com Thank you very much!

von Richter, Zhitomir, Jitomir, Ukraine, Germany

S./Fribourg — 11 Jul 2003 4:15:56 GMT

I am looking for the von Richter or Richter, German extraction, from Zhitomir family genealogy. My great great grand-mother was:
Alexandrine de Richter, nee le 27 aout 1862 a Jitomir, Ukraine, fut la fille du Dr. Robert Andreas Richter, docteur en medecine, proprietaire de biens au gouvernement de Jitomir ou Zhytomir, Ukraine, et de Vera Kalino selon le courrier de Serge Bourgeois du 25 janvier 1939 ou Anna Alexandra Rybalt appartenant a la religion orthodoxe, selon certificat de mariage du 21 mars 1939 delivre a Varsovie.
My archives gives as related russian parents the; Count of Balmaine; Skouratov, Bachilov.
A possible family member could be Sviatoslav Richter 1915-1997 the pianist.
Thank You
S./Fribourg

U-Boot commander Frhr.von Loe-Degenhart

Richard — 7 Jul 2003 6:38:58 GMT

hello i am looking for a picture of U-Boot commander Frhr.von Loe-Degenhart and other information of this man.
Thank you

Loeb, Klein,

JeanetteReiter — 20 Apr 2006 1:49:52 GMT

Mary Magdalene (Magdaline) Loeb was born July 8, 1855 or 1858, and married to Franklin Kline/Klein in Pontiac 1875.
Mary had at least two siblings and possibly as many as 6. Two brothers were Geo (George) and Joe. Geo was known as a Reverand and family lore has it that he rushed into a burning church to save sacraments - suffering injury that caused his death. Church location and date of fire unknown. It is also believed that all of Mary's siblings were born before 1852.

Family lore has it that Mary's mother was of royal dissent, but married a commoner and thus excommunicated from her family lineage. It is believed the mother's name may have also been Mary and that she was born in England or Germany.

If you have any connections to these families, or any leads as to where I might find more information I would appreciate hearing from you.

U-Boat commander - Freiherr von Loe-Degenhart

Gert Pretorius — 6 Jan 2003 5:29:11 GMT

Hi all

I am looking for the first name of the above-mentioned person who served as a U-boat commander during World War 1.

Can anybady please assist me.

Regards

Gert

Wilhelmina Sophie Henriette von dem Bussche -Ippenburg

martha — 27 May 2003 1:46:52 GMT

Friedrich Philip b. 15-04-1807 in Bad Essen was a son of Wilhelmina Sophie Henriette von dem Bussche-Ippenburg.
Can anybody help me to tell the story about this lady?
She was a daughter of Freiherr Ernst Friedrich Philipp von dem Bussche-Ippenburg and Pfillipine Louise, b. von Munster aus dem Hause Susenburg

Princess Valerie of Hehenlohe

jrglaser — 25 Apr 2003 3:33:46 GMT

During WWII my father befriended Princess Valerie of Hohenlohe in Oehringen. If anyone knows anything about her I would like to know!! Any information appreciated
Jane Glaser

german nobility

Delores stevens — 2 Apr 2003 9:26:43 GMT

My ggrandmother stated she was related to Kaiser Wilhelm II. She said the relationship was cousins. Don't know anything further than that, but do know she was not his first cousin. She was Emilie Donat. Does anyone know of any Donat or Donath connection to the Kaiser or where I could find such information

wanting information on history of Castle Plon Royal Family 1700 to 1800's

Deborah Robertson — 4 Feb 2003 3:05:00 GMT

My 86year old Oma told me that her grandmother's grandmother was a princess of the castle Plon. She was disowned and disinherited because she eloped with a man named Rathloff. Can anyone give me any information about this?

Antique Portraits

nelso1 — 3 Feb 2003 2:30:50 GMT

[GERMAN-NOBILITY] Princess Feodora of Saxe-Meiningen - died 1945

Yvonne — 28 Dec 2002 5:38:53 GMT

Nicolaus Heinrich von Evers of Lubeck

Charles Stuart — 18 Aug 2003 7:33:55 GMT

Any information on him? A piece I have describes him as 'notary'. He came from the old Lubeckian patrician family, the von Evers. He, personally, was awarded arms and raised to Baronial status on 12 September 1801 by the Holy Roman Empire.
I have no idea what he did or anything. His son, Baron Christian Nicolaus von Evers, became Mayor of Lubeck and I have some odd rumours saying he was great friends with the Queen of Sweeden. Any information on either of these figures will be appreciated.

Germany nobility - why to call a duke?

Tom Robertson — 14 Nov 2002 3:42:37 GMT

Hi... I'm wondering if anyone here might be able to help me out with a little research I'm doing for a play. A character in it is a duke, and I need to know what the polite term his maid, or anyone in the position of service towards him would call him, in the original German. As in, in English, how one would call a lord, "your majesty," or "your lordship," etc. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Daniel Muhlinghaus

PAMLEED — 14 Mar 2004 2:49:21 GMT

I am searching for information ofn Daniel Muhlinghaus who was born in 1805 in Walde Trifsia Prussia. I believe he may have belonged to wealthy parents because he practiced medicine in the United States. I have also seen a letter which he wrote home to his mother which was written in a very educated tone. I know he had a brother named Casper. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Re: [GERMANKING] Ernst the II

Yvonne — 23 Sep 2002 4:47:31 GMT

Von Jacobs / Mueller (Miller) Nobility/Royalty

Barbie Herbst — 14 Sep 2002 5:14:35 GMT

I was wondering if anyone might have any information about a Frederic Mueller (Miller). My family book that my great grandmother made said that he was a Baron. He was born and died in germany. He married and Elizabeth Catherine Von Jacobs who was born 21 Dec 1793 in Osnabruck, Germany and had at least one child named Mary Adeline b. 22 October 1829 in Oldenburg, Germany. She married a Henry Bellenger and then a Henry Mauntel. I really want to find some information about any of these individuals.
Thank you,
Barbie Herbst

Georg Von Thelen

Barry Meyer — 3 Oct 2001 7:53:07 GMT

I am looking for information on Georg von Thelen born about 1450 in Thoelau, Oberfranken, Bavaria and his family. He married Margarethe Gropp about 1474 in the same place and had 6 children: Hans b. about 1477, Barbara b. about 1483, Balthasar b. about 1485, Katharina b. about 1479, Margaretha b. about 1481 and Veit born about 1475. Veit married Anna von Dobeneck about 1500.

I notice some time later on the 11th July 1671 the marriage of Marie Brigitte von Thelen to a Johann Adam von Shoenfeldt and am wondering if she is from the family of Georg.

I am seeking to establish whether there is some relationship to the Thelens and von Thelens that were in the Rheinland and Westphalia and also the origin of the surname.

Thank you for any information you can render.

Brewer/Brauer surname in Black Forest Area of Germany

@@hayesplace@cimtel.net — 30 Jul 2003 7:50:04 GMT

I am looking for info on any Brewer's or Brauer's in or around the Black Forest area of Germany, I have been told my family came from there to the USAin 1700's I assume and there were three brothers, who were beer brewers, I olny have info of my family in Ms. USA from about 1815 to present, and would love to fill in that gap, I was told they may have been in North Carolina before they went to Ms. Please email me at hayesplace@cimtel.net

von Taxis, Johann Christoph

ValerieKarvoski — 21 Jun 2002 10:43:19 GMT

I am seeking birth date & place, as well as parentage & marriage information of Johann Christoph von Taxis (sometimes von Daxis), who was born about 1592. He was married to Waldpurg (surname unknown to me), who was born about 1593. I know of 6 children, all born in Deizisau, Württemberg:
Martin - baptized 01 Aug 1620;
Catharina - baptized 10 Dec 1621;
Waldpurg - baptized 17 Sep 1624;
Anna - baptized 01 Mar 1627;
Johann Georgius - baptized 23 Apr 1633;
Christoph - baptized 18 Mar 1630. He married Maria Magdalena BERCKHAMER 14 Sep 1657, Deizisau; married Margreta WEBER, on 29 Sep 1663, Deizisau. Information on children available on request.
Thank you.

von Werder

katakes — 5 Mar 2002 1:40:10 GMT

Does anyone have any genealogical info on these two von Werders?

Edlen ALBERT von WERDER, aka "Albertus de insula".
Already dead in 1093 when his remains were transferred to a cloister.
Associated w/ a place called Gieselwerder.
Seems to have had a brother.

Count & General AUGUST von WERDER
Born 1808 in East Prussia (in what is now the former USSR).
Lt. General during the Franco-Prussian war.
Got Iron Cross in 1871.
Might figure in a display in the new German History Museum in Berlin.
Might have served as Kaiser Wilhelm's ambassador to Russia.

Thanks. Danke.

von Perzt geneology

Margaret Allen — 21 Mar 2002 5:06:02 GMT

Looking for Edward von Pertz. known to be of Greman royaly.had 3 children. Lena, Frederick, Bertha.
Was a shipping magnate in German, probably a costal city.Came to US in 1883. Ship unknown, port unknown.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

WINTERMANTEL NOBILITY

Arlene Riemer — 23 Mar 2002 10:13:38 GMT

I keep finding my name WINTERMANTEL listed under nobility. Try as I might, I have not been able to discover its nobility. I do know where the name comes from in Germany but the people in that town say they do not know its roots.
If anyone can help, it would be appreciated.