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Sarah Palin's Ancestry

craingen — 21 Sep 2008 11:05:28 GMT

I have been researching the ancestry of Sarah Heath Palin for my blog and thought some might be interested. If you have additional information, I would really appreciate it.

Janet Crain

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/all-in-family.h...

Shelton or de sheldonne

kcadktk — 5 Aug 2008 1:15:36 GMT

There is a bit of a puzzle, which I may or may not have solved involving the 1st lord of Shelton, Robert De Sheldonne.

Robert De Sheldonne and his brother Guy De Sheldonne were noted as having been supporters of William the Conqueror.

Now, the puzzle, Shelton is in Norfolk England, just south of Norwich. There is Shelton, Shelton Common and Shelton Green, all in close proximity of each other.

Robert of Mortain, as well as his brother Guy of Mortain, both of which were William's half brothers, are the ONLY Norman nobles of merit granted lands in Norfolk by William as Lords.

The first Lord De Sheldonne died between 1095 and 1107. Considering the circumstantial evidence, is it possible that Robert of Mortain and Robert De Shelton are the same man?

Royal bloodlines

sl_mayes — 5 Sep 2005 10:59:03 GMT

I have found out that I am the 22nd descendant of King Edward II of England as well as a long list of other royalty on my grandmother's side. Also a descendant of King James I of England (of the Bible) on my grandfather's side. Does anyone know how I can persue this furthur and how to find more information. And if my place in the line of descendants is of any importance or just wishful thinking on my part!

I am of Royal descent, from both my parents blood lines....

Jenifer McClain — 23 Oct 2002 12:32:07 GMT

I just began real geneaology work of my ancestral blood lines, this past December, 2001, and found important people in America's earliest history -that was my family, then going back to the mother countries, for many generations, I found I am of the old Royalty blood lines, going all through the Royal blood lines to way back, blood lines of England, Scotland, Ireland,and more...
Kings, Queens, so many......I was stunned, but somehow I always knew. What was really strange to I, is I found that both my parents had some of the same Royal blood lines, after a point. I have been happy since knowing, who my ancestors were. I feel very proud.

How many ancestors do you have?

Kristine — 1 Oct 2002 9:11:36 GMT

Most of us do have some royalty in our ancestry:

Genealogy Resources:

http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/eastman/6394.as...

A british royal family mystery

erica — 7 Feb 2005 8:35:41 GMT

I have come across some thing about the Royal famiy and i want to know if it true. That the monarchs should not be on the throne and some one else should be. I found that ages ago that a reigning king married a illagtamte daughter yhink she had royal blood in her thos so validating his claim to the throne . I also found out that all houses that were on the throne should never of been on it because of this . And that Britain should of had completly different rulers and the present ruler should not be ruling . I know it sounds crazy but i saw it on Discover channel . But i only saw o very small amount . IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANY THING PLEASE CONTACT ME A.S.A.P !!!!!

having title

jaycee — 8 Aug 2005 3:57:25 GMT

I am the 11th great grand child of Antoine De Bourbon, Duke Of Vendome and Jeanne D'Albret, Queen Of Navarre. Antoine's son Jean De Navarre came to america around 1560 give and take a few years. My question is if Jean kept his title and his children kept theres and so on, I was wondering what my title would be. Jean brother is Henry IV. I don't know if that would make any difference. Would anyone know this answer?
thanks a million
jaycee

Congi Royalty

RelativeCanada — 29 Aug 2006 6:47:28 GMT

Are their any Congi's in Canada who are of Royal bloodline and have had their identity or names changed? Perhaps the bloodline runs through Austrian/Bavarian decent? Any help would be great.

ROYAL MYSTERY- PLEASE HELP!!!

sportgurl17 — 30 Jul 2004 5:08:35 GMT

Do any of you know anything of any Van Valkenburg (any sp) family in Holland?
Or where a lady in waiting would have lived in the 1800s in Holland?

My ancestor Katrinka (Catharine) Van Valkenburg (brn. 1802) was a cousin to the queen, and a lady in waiting. She was also a member of the Royal House of Holland, and fled to America to avoid marrying a German prince. I have no idea which queen it would have been, who the prince was, or even where she would have lived.

ANY facts about Holland, theories, or information would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks!

~Rachel

Caroline Miskell Hoyt

joycewhitby1 — 12 Oct 2005 8:51:17 GMT

Dear Yvonne, "Lady" is part of the myth. The entire little story of that branch of my family tends to be a little grander than I think it possibly could have been. Also, some of the facts that I have been able to establish differ from the story. Nonetheless I had looked, online, in Debrett's and Burke's to no avail, but I am not practiced in either one so they still may be resources. Thanks so much for your efforts and your interest.

Lady Caroline Miskell Hoyt

joycewhitby1 — 8 Oct 2005 12:42:55 GMT

She is identified in a family histoy as having been First Lady-in-Waiting to Queen Victoria. Any information helpful.

Research of Nobility

rburns — 14 Sep 2005 5:00:28 GMT

I am interested in any information on how to research nobility. Are there organizations that track how a nobleman received the title, or if it is a title passed down through the family? Are records kept of the nobleman's death? If an organization does exist, how can I contact them? I am trying to trace Sir Willard Barnard who passed away in 1947 in Detroit.

English Title Question

102006 — 27 Dec 2004 10:36:04 GMT

I'm rather new to genealogy but have quickly become fascinated with the subject. I recently came across a letter dated 6 June, 1893, signed by "Sir William Brooks". It was a letter of recommendation for my great grandfather, who apparently had worked for Sir William as some type of carriage driver or something to do with horses.
I'm curious to know just who Sir William was. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should start looking?
Thanks

Losing Titles

slamhowes18 — 29 Jul 2005 2:59:37 GMT

Why is it that people lose titles so quickly? I descend from John Douglas, who's father was a Lord of Hamilton and grandparents where the Duke and Duchess of Hamilton. A book said that when John was 12, he ran away from Scotland to London, where his Uncle promised to make him his heir. While in London, he was kidnapped and brought to America. This was in the early 1700's. I don't understand why he had no title after that. Was it taken away because he ran away to his Uncle, or was there some other reason. And why would he not move back to Scotland once he was an adult?

Claiming A Royal Title

robertafrommt1 — 29 Jun 2005 9:07:36 GMT

If a family has a reason or grounds to claim an English title, what are some sources of information that might tell about proceedures, etiqutte, and laws involved? And, at what point does a hereditary title "die" - or does it? Does anyone know the current ruling monarch's position on "old crown" titles? I hear the French tend to honor all titles, past or present, but they are the most permissive.

counts

doorseeker1 — 30 Jul 2004 3:54:03 GMT

are anyone in the family of counts! your posts are welcome!

I need to find a complete family tree of the British royal family

A Frustrated and Desperate Student — 26 Feb 2004 11:20:31 GMT

I need to find a complete family tree of the British royal family down from Queen Victoria to present day. I can't seem to find it anywhere. If anyone can help me it would be wonderful!

mary queen of scots

cindybentley1085 — 3 Nov 2004 4:45:06 GMT

looking for descendants of mary( mcgregor)(?)

Lady in Waiting??????

sportgurl17 — 30 Jul 2004 5:11:01 GMT

What do they do?
What does the title mean?
Where would they live (in the palace..)?
How do they get to be ladies in waiting??

lady campbell of ontario

cindybentley1085 — 3 Nov 2004 4:48:24 GMT

looking for info on lady campbell of ontario, her husband committed suicide during the depression i've been told, had a daughter named clementine devaney who married an eaton

The Countess, A 200 year old Family Mystery

mswiggie74 — 10 Mar 2003 4:08:31 GMT

Royal Ancesters and Titles

sally1369 — 13 Jun 2003 9:38:46 GMT

I recently found out that I have an extensive royal ancestry. Edward III, II, I, Henry III, King John, Henry II, I, William the Conquerer, all the way back to Charlemagne. I have been told by a friend from England that I might qualify for a royal title if I wasn't American. I am wondering if anyone has any information on this subject? I find it very interesting and would love to see if it is true, but can't find much information on the qualification for titles anywhere online.

Purchasing a Royal Title

Fabrice L Broyld — 4 Dec 2002 12:26:26 GMT

Hello. I am seeking information about how to purchase royal titles. I have heard from many people that it is possible. If anyone could provide me with information, I will be forever grateful.

Thank You,
Fabrice L. Broyld

Money paid to descendants of Kings and Queens

SENORASIMCOX — 30 Nov 2006 9:24:57 GMT

Hello,

I have a question, I had always heard that descendants of Kings and Queens get paid money for just being descended from them. Don't know when that started and how far down the line it goes, would like some information on that. Any help is appreciated.

jamie

Please help me out! I would greatly appreciate it:)

A_Corio — 26 Aug 2003 8:10:40 GMT

Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about the Bohn or Baroni family? I was told that both families have royal blood in them but Im not very sure so please help me if you have any info on either families.Thank you so much!

Marquis of Queensbury

lindahodgsonironside — 23 Jan 2003 2:14:07 GMT

Does anyone have access to a photograph of John Sholto Douglas 9th Marquis of Queensbury???? Or know where I can find one. I am looking for something along the lines of a portrait rather than a distance shot. Thanks

duchess of fife

laszlol9071 — 13 Feb 2004 10:17:53 GMT

king edward VII of england's daughter was princess louise. her eldest daughter was princess alexandra. she was also the duchess of fife in her own right. what title was higher: princess or duchess of fife?

Baron of Jamnia?

JJ. Monoikos — 26 Sep 2002 10:52:05 GMT

Does anyone know about the current Baron of Jamnia? This is of course from the crusader states. I heard he was offering court titles presently that needed to be filled. Any help would be thankful.

I am related to queen Victoria

loridec71941 — 3 Sep 2003 1:04:34 GMT

My grandmother told me we are related to queen Victoria and her cousin Margerite has a painting of a Lord and Lady Bentinck or Bentrick. Also her mother told her this they were very wealthy people. My great great grandmother a Margaretta Bentinck or Beninck.Also she has a silver set that was my great great grandmothers. It has Queen Victorias face on it.Unfortunately she spray painted it silver because she hated to polish it. If anyone knows of this family please write to me. My great grandmother died in 1980 her name was Amiee Miller ,Vanderslice. My grandmother is in her 80s and in the hospital with abroken back.
Lori

SYMON WILICHOWSKI was knighted...

Amber_Zietlow — 8 Dec 2004 12:49:14 GMT

I am looking for information about my gr. gr. gr. gr. grandfatehr, SYMON WILICHOWSKI. He was knighted around the year 1830 in Poland for "deeds performed for King and country". Later he sold the tittle for a reason that is not known to any of our family. He was born in Poland in Wolwark (unknown date) and died in Poland on 27 February 1869. He was married to MAGDALINE SZULC and their children were JOSEPH, KANSTANCIA, MARCIN, and VALENTINE. Joseph would call his daughter, Martha, his "little princess". He said that he did so because if his father had not sold the tittle and had they still lived in Poland (Joseph was the only child to travel to the USA) that she would be a princess.

Does anyone know why he received the tittle or why he would have sold it?

Amber

Marques de la Real Campiña

Antonio Manuel Coroalles — 2 Jul 2003 8:31:56 GMT

Does anyone know the name of the current holder of the above title? This was a Spanish title granted in in Cuba in 1865. I believe that the person holding the title is living in Miami, Florida. My paternal grandmother's father (Morales y Sotolongo) was the brother of the original title holder.

1st Lord Shelton

edimcln — 8 Jul 2001 10:44:50 GMT

Hi, can anyone tell me more @ Sir John De Shelton, 1st Lord
Shelton of Shelton Manor in Shelton, Norfolk, England?
Thanx, Edith Shelton McClain-- edimcln@yahoo.com

is there a Lord Lathem

Lord Lathem — 19 Jun 2003 1:45:58 GMT

Supposably my grandmother was relative to Lord LAthem however I have not been able to do any search on her. She passed away at the age of 89 in the year 1957,she married my grandfather Henry Brown. On several of the childrens birth certificates the mothers name was different from Young to Hazeland
Many questions to be answered

what about earl's?

cynthia — 16 Apr 2003 3:47:43 GMT

hello,

my name is cynthia and i have been looking for my ancestors for about two years and i found a site a ways back about a earl of fontaine on icecastle.com but, this site is no longer the same. so i have done some looking and found this site and would like to find the different place's in europe empire's that might have some relation to the title.

the earl's name was jaques lemond fluitt(not sure if this is true), was during 1512 at new market village or chateau du macabre'.

Shelton Family

wrservices — 26 May 2003 12:40:19 GMT

Any information regarding John Shelton born 1821-1823 christend 1823 Saint Benet Pauls Wharf London England. father William Shelton mother Ann or Anne

Titles of Englishmen

christichristi96 — 17 Oct 2002 6:05:30 GMT

I have ancestors that date back to 1335 in Crosse Hall, Lancanshire England, by the surname of Crosse, his wife was Maude Sutton of Sutton, Cheshire, England..

Crosse's descendants have the title Esquire and Gentleman after their surnames.. Has anyone heard of these people?

Dame Agatha Mary Clarissa Miller Christie Mallowan

christie270 — 23 Feb 2002 5:01:09 GMT

Greetings,
I am just starting to research my CHRISTIE surname. The few names that I have are listed below. If any of them sound familiar, please contact me with any information which you may have, however trivial it may seem.

All these people have had the surname of CHRISTIE, by birth or marriage:

in England:
Col. Archibald Christie m. Agatha Miller (the famous mystery writer Agatha Christie), Dec.24/1914, divorced 1928. Daughter Rosalind Christie born Aug.1919; Grandson Mathew Pritchard born 1943; Archibald Christie later married Nancy Neele, England.

Agatha Miller became Dame Agatha Mary Clarissa Miller Christie Mallowan.

In Africa:
Generation 1: Malcolm(?)Jack, Lindsay Gerald, William, Doris/Dora, Herculine
Generation 2: Doreen, Dawn, Margaret, Heather, Geraldine, Diane, Lindsay (Jr.)

Malcolm(?) Jack Christie, (M.J.Christie), was Speaker of the House, S. Rhodesia during Ian Smith's term. He lived in Harare (prev.Salisbury), until approx.1990, when he died, aged 81.

Thanking you in advance
Yvonne Janette Christie

English Titles

diannedeignanarthur — 29 Mar 2004 2:09:47 GMT

Where can one find the name given to a person of Nobility?
My gggreat uncle was Flennoy Taylor and he and his three brothers came to this country in the mid 1700's. The bible said that my gggrandfather, Arthur Taylor stayed here along with Albert and John, but Flennoy went back to Title. I am hoping to complete this line of search back to England.
Hope someone may have some information.

where to begin

Angi Wolverton — 21 Nov 2002 5:54:31 GMT

Hello! Several of my ancestors were born and lived in areas where there would have been titled leaders. How and where do I find info in who these people were? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
THanks a bunch!
Angi Wolverton

Von Koppen

RonGulbranson — 25 Oct 2002 10:19:58 GMT

Searching for information about Johan Karl Fredrick Edvard Engelbrecht Von Koppen. He was born 28 July, 1774, in Jylland, Denmark. He died in Holbaek, Denmark in 1814. He married Theodora Marie Sommer. His Father was Johan Fredrrich Von Koppen, Grandfathers name was Karl Frederich Von Koppen, and his mothers name was Lady Dora Jensdatter Sommer. He was a Captain and Knight of Dannebrog. The National Register in Copenhagen found that the family belonged to the "Brandenbursk- Pomerske Nobility", by the same name. If anyone has any infor about this family, please let me know. I am a direct descendent of this family.

"Ancestors of the Rich & Famous" on Radio Network

Tom Nocera — 23 Oct 2002 3:14:33 GMT

The Benjamins

Fabrice — 30 Sep 2002 1:38:29 GMT

Ok. Now, I realized that my family meant that he (Toussant L'Ouverture) was the descendant of an African king. Anyway, I found out that my mother's mother comes from the House of Benjamin in France. But, I am not sure whether or not they are noble and/or royalty. If anyone could find any information about this family I would be very grateful.

The First Emperor of Haiti

Fabrice — 11 Mar 2002 5:16:04 GMT

For a couple of months, I have studied the leaders of Haiti. The majority of them declared themselves monarchs. But, I could find little about my ancestor, Toussant L'Ouverture. It is said that he liberated the slaves against the French. And, after he did so, he declared himself a monarch (either a king or an emperor). But, many of the historical books say nothing of this. If someone can find if he did, I would be very grateful.

THANK YOU!

English Earl named Morgan?

Genvol — 24 Jan 2004 5:09:47 GMT

An oral family history states that the father of Emily Morgan (b. 1848) was the youngest son of an English Earl who married the love of his life (beneath him, I presume) and came to the US. Can anyone tell me whether this is even a possibility? I believe her father's name is Gilbert. I know many of such stories are just that--stories--but there may be a grain of truth which might lead me to more facts.

Viscount Perch or was his name Garrard?

deblauw — 8 Aug 2002 4:08:05 GMT

Searching for Henry/Henri Perch or Garrard b.Cardiff Wales 1860's+.married Amelie Guerrin b. 1873 Nante France.
They fled England after Henrri's father died around 1895 and went to Durban South Africa for the diamond rush. The Boer war broke out for which Henri forte, I believe for the English He died of wounds recieved during this time,after the war around 1902-06. Amelie arrived in Australia Jan 1906 with 2 out of 6 daughters Maxice Henrietta Perch and Dorothy Garrard, the other girls died in South Africa of Influenza. I have come up against that locked door once again. Can any one help me? How can I found out where these poeple are burried in South Africa? How do I find out about Henrri serving in the forces? Did He change his name when they fled from England so they could not be found?

Knighted?

MaryElizabeth_Trindal — 25 Jun 2002 3:07:51 GMT

Thomas Webb was born 1849 in Cornwall, UK. According to the family, Thomas was knighted by Queen Victoria as an outstanding jeweler for the queen. His parents were William and Elizabeth Rice Webb.

german worriors

bcramberg — 5 May 2002 9:15:41 GMT

My father James Cramberg said that our name orriginated from worriors in a country no longer existing in Germany-it ended in 'burg'-any leads?

Lady In Waiting

Mollie — 9 Sep 2001 2:14:09 GMT

How can I find out if one of our relatives was a Lady In Waiting to Queen Victoria? We think this to be true but I would like some type of proof.

Thanks, Mollie

HELP in Researching Old Royal Titles in Middle Europe

Kattieman — 11 Mar 2001 12:01:25 GMT

I am studying the area known as old Middle Europe, long BEFORE the creation of the old German Empire in 1872 and the modern nearby countries such as Poland, the Czech Republic, etc.

My particular interest is the period of circa 1400 through the 1700's. The development of Prussia is my primary focus. I am aware Prussia was a series of small regions and areas spread over the southern coast of the Baltic Sea. I would like to know how their royal house(s) were organized.

I am descended of a Prussian circa 1760. This man was a person of fierce determination, huge physical size, gentleman's manners, and personal wealth. He was totally devoted to his children's welfare.

Would the title COUNT have been used by the royals of old Prussia?

I need a reference to the appropriate research facility, and the corresponding correct internet site.

Your help and assistance in this matter would be appreciated by myself and entire family.

Please leave a message on this board.

Thank you,

Kattieman

How can I find out if my relative was a Lady In Waiting ?

Parks2Martin — 20 Feb 2002 12:04:45 GMT

How can I find out if my gg-great grandmother was a Lady In Waiting? I have been told she was prior to immigrating to the USA but I have not been able to confirm it. Her last name was Stokes(?) and she came to America about 1917. Thank you!

minor British nobility, please help!

Carol Haywood — 15 Mar 2001 11:38:22 GMT

Working with deceased relative's genealogy notes about woman named Teresa b. in Baden or Rheinland, Germany, 1790, sister to "Sir Wellington". Have looked at royal genealogy websites without being able to identify her in those records.
What surname might she have been born with? My aunt wrote down 2: WELLINGTON [?] or WELLINGER. If she was related to the Duke of Wellington, wouldn't it have been WELLESLEY instead?
Could anyone with experience with Anglo-Irish-German noble families please help a beginner.

"Guienne, King of Arms"

EcceBDC — 9 Feb 2003 8:41:51 GMT

From my web-surfing today, I've learned that Katherine de Roet's father was "Guienne King of Arms", and that the herald of Richmond has also been "Guienne King of Arms" since the time of Edward IV. But I'm still clueless as to what this title means, other than that Guienne was (is?) part of France.
Can anyone enlighten me?

Beckee