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Re: Shipwrecked off North Queensland, Australia Coast. BARBARA CRAWFORD THOMPSON

msthemanor — 2009-11-01 12:10:24Z

You can buy the book 'Wildflower, The Barbara Crawford Thompso Story' by Raymond Warren from the author himself, or from his UK agent (Me ! ) I list it on Amazon UK but they charge silly fees, so it is cheaper if you can buy direct. I'll arrange a signed copy if you wish, and the author is always pleased to correspond with any descendants of Barbara or her family.

Re: COALSHIP "GWENDOLINE" PLEASE

tstevenson1158 — 2009-10-30 09:02:57Z

Hello DJ, this information was allready sent to me by a gentleman in Scotland but I greatly appreciate it regardless. Sadly, shipwrecks around the Northumberland coast were all too common.
Thanks,
Tom.

Re: Schooner Melrose

dj72green — 2009-10-30 09:01:00Z

There is a newspaper article at http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=melrose+yarmouth&... which might provide more info (it is a pay-per-view)

In case the link doesn't work, I searched for the words Melrose Yarmouth at http://news.google.com/archivesearch

Debra

Re: COALSHIP "GWENDOLINE" PLEASE

dj72green — 2009-10-30 08:30:26Z

Hi Tom,

The Times, Friday, Nov 24, 1893; pg. 10; Issue 34117; col E

"A Middlesborough telegram says the reported loss of the steamship, Gwendoline, owned by Swan Brothers,Middlesborough, is confirmed. The crew have perished. They numbered 13, and the body of Captain Mallett who commanded the vessel, is said to have been found on the coast."

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, November 24, 1893; Issue 281.

THE LOSS OF THE GWENDOLINE

"A Middlesborough telegram says the reported loss of the steamship, Gwendoline, owned by Swan Brothers,Middlesborough, is confirmed, with all hands. She had a crew of 13. The body of the Captain, named Mallett, is reported to have been found.

Much sympathy was expressed at Grangemouth on the news of the loss of the steamer Gwendoline. The Captain and crew were well known, the steamer being a regular trader to the port. The Chief Officer, Thomas Miller, was for a number of years Captain of one of the Carron Company's steamers running between Grangemouth and London. Latterly he was in the steamer Abergrange of Grangemouth, which vessel he left quite recently to join the Gwendoline. He was married and resided in Falkirk. Another member of the crew belonged to Grangemouth - John Allan, steward, who was married."

(From Gale databases - see your local library for access)
http://infotrac.galenet.com/galenet?cause=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.g...

Wreck site
http://www.marinequest.co.uk/diving/wrecks_5.htm

Debra

Re: List of victims

PFazzini86 — 2009-10-26 23:55:55Z

train conductor killed was Tom Fletcher a Pennsy passenger conductor at Leetonia Ohio Sunday 9 November 1913:
{Column 1}

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84028473/1913-11-14...

Obituaries - Noronic Ship Fire September 17, 1949

LarryParks43 — 2009-10-25 17:35:22Z

I got a copy of an Obituary for a family member and this one, for Mr. Clark, was next to it. I could not find any other place to post it, this seemed like the best place. I searched for a list of the dead from this fire and found none. They didn't even have a solid number of the dead from this fire. I have no connection to this person just wanted to save the obit and maybe start a memorial place for the victims.

****************************

Noronic Fire Victim Formerly Represented Firm in Lehigh Valley

Mr. Leon N. Clark former representative of the International Harvester Co. in Easton, has been found among the known dead in the disastrous fire abroad the steamship Noronic in Toronto, Canada on Saturday.
Mrs. Clark also is reported to be dead in the fire. The couple had been on a vacation tour of the Midwest before boarding the ill-fated ship.
Mr. Clark had served in Easton and Allentown during his 30 years with International Harvester Co. and was preparing to retire Oct. 1 as the company’s assistant supervisor in Pennsylvania. He and his wife lived in River Edge. N. J.

Source; Easton Express/Express Times Newspaper, September 21, 1949, p.22

Re: SS Shannon 1885

dmallan2000 — 2009-10-08 19:02:25Z

Thanks for that Debra... very much appreciated.
I've been doing a little family history research for one of my work colleagues and cames across one of the ancestors memorial inscription in Escomb cemetery, Co Durham:
JOHN EDWARD LORD, AGED 19 YEARS. LOST IN THE SHIP “SHANNON” WHICH FOUNDERED WITH ALL HANDS, WHILST ON A VOYAGE, FROM LONDON TO CALCUTTA 1885.

Re: SS Shannon 1885

dj72green — 2009-10-08 12:35:09Z

Hi David,

From The Liverpool Mercury, Friday, August 14, 1885; Issue 11730.

Foundering of an East Indiaman - 45 Lives Lost

Information received from Lloyds yesterday morning states that the splendid iron ship Shannon of London, 1650 tons register, bound from the Thames to Calcutta with a valuable general cargo, is missing. She sailed from Deal on the 27th of January and was spoken near the Line on the 10th March, all well, but has never arrived at her destination. Underwriters have given up all hope of her safety, as she is two months overdue, and they are of opinion that the vessel has foundered off the Cape of Good Hope with all hands, numbering 45 all told.

Regards

Debra

Death at sea

tinys_1 — 2009-09-29 06:39:39Z

My 2x Great Grandfather WALTER EDWIN LANCELOT GARDNER was lost at sea on the 18th October 1882 crushed by a wreck off the coast of South East England.
I have been unable to find a death certificate or any information as to exactly where and the circumstances of his death. I am looking for any information that is available and would be glad to hear from anyone who may have any.
Please contact me by email at; tinys@westnet .com.au

Sloop Polly, cleared Philadelphia for Halifax, July 1764

Maxydna — 2009-09-24 11:46:26Z

Master of the Sloop Polly was Captain Walter Rench of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. 'Polly' cleared Philad. Customs House on July 5, 1764, bound for Halifax, Nova Scotia. The vessel never returned to its home port and its master and crew were lost with the sloop. Can someone tell me whether the 'Polly' reached Halifax safely and if so, when did she sail from Halifax and for which port was she bound?

Re: Schooner Melrose

cronin1969 — 2009-09-11 10:00:10Z

I am also looking for info on this shipwreck. I have a relative, Samuel Patten who died on this ship. Who are your relatives?

Re: Three Bells (ship)

ClareAbbott — 2009-09-04 18:22:20Z

Captain Robert Crighton was born in 1821 in Port Glasgow and died in Antwerp in 1882.

Re: Thomas Herbert Hurst

toncharic — 2009-08-31 22:01:07Z

Where did he live? Estimated age when he died?
Please capitalize the first letter of proper names and titles, if you can. It will draw people's attention to those names (ie. Thomas Herbert Hurst, SS Ceramic, Azores, Sgt., Army Medical Corp.)
It catches out attention. Quickly I went to Ancestry and realized I did not know from where he came.
Just trying to help,

Thomas Herbert Hurst

sharonhurst167 — 2009-08-31 18:06:34Z

i am looking to find any hurst family history for thomas herbert hurst, thomas was on the ss ceramic torpedoed in the azores on 6or7/12/1942. he was a sgt in the army medical corp.

thanks

Shipwreck in 1894 or 1895 - Master Mariner Wollner

elizabeth_a — 2009-08-23 03:30:48Z

Master Mariner Wollner, based out of Norway, lost at sea with his wife. Shipwreck believed to be off the coast of Scotland in 1894 or 1895.

Can anyone suggest how to find anything further? I do not know the name of the ship.

Thanks for any help - much appreciated

Re: Clipper Sir John Franklin

jthampton145 — 2009-08-14 01:00:05Z

I have a colored engraving or, possibly an aquatint, of
"Le Sir John Franklin"
"Paquebot a voiles Americain"
in what I believe is the original frame.

Re: Clipper Sir John Franklin

jthampton145 — 2009-08-14 00:57:05Z

I have a colored engraving of
"Le Sir John Franklin"
"Paquebot a soiles Americain"

I believe it's in original frame,

12 7/8" by 16 1/2" is measurement of engraving from upper mat boundary to lower mat boundary (top to bottom) Acutual measurement would be at least 1/2inch larger. This may be an aquatint, I cannot tell thru the glass. It is in near excellent condition. Curiously, there is a lighthouse with a cross on the top in the scene. Considering the fate of The John Franklin, the presence of a lighthouse is thought provoking.
At any rate, I'm an antique dealer in Knoxville, TN and have this and what appears to be a 'mate' for sell in my shop. Joan Hampton Britton Antiques
jthampton@comcast.net
I also have other ship art that is quite lovely.

Re: Clipper Sir John Franklin

jthampton145 — 2009-08-14 00:35:44Z

I have a colored engraving of 'Le Sir John Franklin'.

Re: Wreck of the schooner Whittlesey 1832

thistleseed04 — 2009-06-15 15:45:08Z

I am interested in the wreck of the schooner, as we have the graves in our cemetery in Conneaut, Oh of Fiddia and Samuel Holcomb. Any information you have, would be greatly appreciated, regarding the history of this shipwreck, and the passengers onboard. I know nothing at all about the Holcombs. If you would be interested in a photo of the grave stones, please let me know. Thanks!

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

billb2008 — 2009-06-01 14:38:10Z

Greetings, Marilyn:

Thank you for posting your comments and for your interest in the video project. The video project is progressing forward with several chapters completed in beta form. It's a long term project. I intend to keep members of this group appraised of its progress.

I was wondering if you might have a photo of Andrew Morison in you family collection? Please advise. If so, with your kind permission of course, it would make an interesting addition to the chapter in the documentary dealing with the survivors of the wreck.

Regards,

Bill

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

GARYPEARSON67 — 2009-06-20 23:55:59Z

Hello Ken,
William Sanguily was my Great Grandfather. Although from Boston USA he settled in Sydney (maybe to be closer to the gold!).
I've just received a copy of your book "The General Grant's Gold" and intend to be at your talk next Sunday at the National Maritime Museum.
Cheers,
Gary Pearson

2 steamboat disasters reported on Mississippi and Ohio rivers, 1852

CookiesDream — 2009-07-18 05:15:13Z

Hi,

I just posted an old newspaper article reporting a steamboat disaster at St. Louis, Missouri, in which there were many deaths and injuries. The steamer "Glencoe" blew up, and the neighboring steamers "Cataract" and "Western World" were seriously damaged. "Glencoe" had just arrived from New Orleans. Unfortunately, there are no passengers' names listed for this accident.
In the same article, an Ohio River steamboat explosion (the steamer "Redstone") near Carrollton (probably Kentucky) was reported. The names of several of the dead and injured crew and passenegrs are reported, along with some of their residences.
Surnames mentioned include the following: BERRY, DAVID, DURBIN, SMITH, SCOTT, PATE, LANGLEY, JACKSON, FRITZ, BRECK, BOZEI, COLLARD, WILSON, STIRGEL, BATES, SOPER, CABLE, CHRISMAN, LANGHENY
This was scanned from an original issue (NOT microfilm!) of the The Whig newspaper (Little Rock, Arkansas) dated April 15, 1852, and you can see it online here:

http://theoldentimes.com/glencoe04151852river_1.html

I hope it's helpful!

Barbara
http://theoldentimes.com/ms_river_news.html
http://theoldentimes.com

Re: Clipper Sir John Franklin

jthampton145 — 2009-08-14 00:34:40Z

I have a colored engraving of "Le Sir John Franklin" bought at auction in Knoxville, TN from an estate shipment from Conneticut.

Re: SS At;lantic

jdmr00 — 2009-06-25 05:52:51Z

"Complete" Passenger Listing of surviving and not surviving can be found at:
http://www.immigrantships.net/v6/1800v6/atlantic18730320_01....

Re: SS At;lantic

jdmr00 — 2009-06-25 05:50:53Z

"Complete" Passenger Listing of surviving and not surviving can be found at:
http://www.immigrantships.net/v6/1800v6/atlantic18730320_01....

Re: Three Bells (ship)

rochtubb — 2009-06-13 08:49:04Z

Hi Trevor. I realise this is an old post but my aunty from australia is trying to chase a passenger list from the Three Bells which she thinks her ancestors may have travelled to NZ on. Wld you be able to email me a copy? Many thanks Rochelle

Re: Three Bells (ship)

rochtubb — 2009-06-17 08:30:19Z

Thanks Trevor. You wldn't know where I cld access other pass lists from Three Bells from later dates too 1855-87? Many thanks for your help Rochelle

Re: Three Bells (ship)

rochtubb — 2009-06-10 08:33:31Z

Hi Bess. Wld you have a copy of the Three Bells passenger list from 1851? My aunty is trying to trace her ancestors who she thinks sailed on the Three Bells to NZ between 1853-55. Many thanks Rochelle

Re: Clipper Sir John Franklin

hmz11 — 2009-06-10 16:00:01Z

Do you know where I can find information about the print Le Sir John Franklin? There is a picture of it on Pescadero Memories.

Re: Clipper Sir John Franklin

hmz11 — 2009-06-12 00:08:18Z

Thanks, I found a framed print of this photo. The original painting must be in this museum. If I ever get out there I will check it out.

COALSHIP "GWENDOLINE" PLEASE

tstevenson1158 — 2009-06-26 11:32:59Z

Hello everyone,I am looking for some information on a ship called the S.S Gwendoline that apperantly sunk off the coast of the Faroe Islands on or about the 17th. of November 1893. She went down with crew and a full load of coal. The ship was built and stationed out of Middlesborough U.K The first mate on board was a Jonathon Coombs. Any more info on this would be most helpful.
Thank you,
Tom

Re: Clipper Sir John Franklin

Lexiphiliac1 — 2009-06-10 16:46:43Z

Photo: San Mateo County History Museum. Please visit the museum at the historic Redwood City Courthouse.

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

RhondaRobertson28 — 2009-06-01 02:54:45Z

Thanks Cuz

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

RhondaRobertson28 — 2009-06-01 02:29:29Z

Hi Marilyn,
yes both are http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Search/Home?lookfor=Jewell&f...
B%5D=pi%3Anla.pic*&type=all
This is the photo if I did it right.If not its the National Library of Australia digital collection.I can't get the link for the letter, but try googling it, totals 6 pages. Also paperspast in NZ has a bit on it also.

Cheers
Rhonda

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

marp196 — 2009-06-01 02:27:20Z

Hi, My ancestor Andrew Morison baptized on 31 December 1837 St Cuthbert's Edinburgh, Scotland was a seaman on the General Grant. He was one of the four men who set out to seek help following the wreck on Auckland Island. They were never heard from again.
Apparently Andrew stayed a short time in Melbourne, Australia with his brother James Morison and family before embarking on the General Grant. The family story is that he had a bad feeling about the ship when he signed on in Melbourne.
Mary Jewell brought some of Andrew's belongings back to his brother James in Melbourne.
let us know when the video is completed, we would be interested to see it.
regards, Marilyn

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

marp196 — 2009-06-01 02:17:17Z

Hi, I have been reading the accounts of survivors of the wreck with interest. Our ancestor Andrew Morison did not survive, he was one of the four men who set out in the small boat to seek help, and they were not heard from again. Mary Jewel brought back some belongings of Andrew Morison to Melbourne after her rescue and gave them to his brother James Morison.

I would really love to read Joseph Jewell's account of the wreck to his father. Is this on the web anywhere? Also there is mention of pictures of Joseph and Mary Jewell in seal skins. Is this available on the web?
thanks, Marilyn

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

marp196 — 2009-06-02 00:54:59Z

Thanks again for the information. Joseph Jewell's account to his father made riveting reading. The photo was also interesting with their seal skin clothing.

Best wishes, Marilyn

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

marp196 — 2009-06-02 00:52:41Z

Greetings Bill,

I do not have a picture of Andrew Morison. However, there are some other Morison descendents around and I will email and see whether or not they have one. If so, I will let you know.

regards, Marilyn

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

marp196 — 2009-06-01 10:09:01Z

Many thanks Kerrie. I downloaded the account of Joseph Jewell and also the photo.

Thanks again, Marilyn

Re: Three Bells (ship)

trevorlyon_1 — 2009-06-17 07:27:35Z

Hi Rochelle, I don't know how it will scan up. I will give it a shot. Let me know when you get it. Regards Trevor

Re: ss Valencia 1906

KitTimmons — 2009-06-12 15:15:58Z

Hi Anita - Yes, I actually have. Another cousin and I did some thorough research to try to solve this mystery - it isn't solved for us as my relative was apparently NOT on board; but we collected some newspaper articles and such which I am happy to share about this terribly tragic shipwreck. Contact me off list and I'll forward to you. scrap4heritage@msn.com

Kit

Re: Steamship S.S.Regulus 23/Oct/1910

wamman124 — 2009-07-19 01:22:23Z

To Jerome O Brian who was discussing the wreck of the Regulus Oct 23, 1910, I would be very intrested in discussing this wreck with you. Did you dive on it in 2004 or erect a memorial to its loss? I am new to this site and have just become aware of your information. I grew up with a painting of this ship on my wall. I have a photo of the crew with my Grandfathers brother on the ship. I also have a newspaper artical about how my Grandfathers brother was becoming Captain of the Regulus after a trip from a U.S. port back to Canada. He went down with the Regulus and was 26 years old at the time. His name was Capt. Malcolm McNeill of St. Johns, Newfoundland. I also have a photo of my Grandfather at his gravestone in 1966 when he went back for Newfoundlands come home year. I also remember my Grandfather telling me his account of the loss of his brothers ship. I would be very intrested in hearing from anyone about the loss and or more info about this. Thank You Bill

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

KerrieLarosa50 — 2009-06-01 03:32:45Z

Hi Ken, where are you thinking of having the meeting in Sydney? Last weekend in June you mention, what day time and place, I can then pass it on to my grandmother.
Thanks
Kerrie

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

KerrieLarosa50 — 2009-06-01 13:49:11Z

Glad everything worked, great reading isnt it and the photo is unbelievable. Rhonda has mentioned you to me in her emails. Funny how things all come about isn't it. I'm looking forward to Ken's book to find out more about the other survivors.
Cheers
Kerrie

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

KerrieLarosa50 — 2009-06-01 02:49:56Z

Marilyn, here is the link to the letter Rhonda is referring to.http://web.archive.org/web/20050829201937/http:/homepage.ntl...

I'm trying to attach the photo here as Rhonda's link didn't take me straight to the actual picture but I found it by searching Joseph Jewell, in case it doesnt come in here.
Cheers
Kerrie Larosa (another descendant)

Re: Empress of Ireland

anniebrown5 — 2009-06-15 21:39:14Z

Hi

Emma Martin was the Grandmother of Irene Martin. Do you have any info of family in Canada or USA

Many thanks Pat brown

Re: General Grant Shipwreck

kenscadden — 2009-06-21 05:21:33Z

Hi Gary,

Thanks for that.I am really delighted to hear from you and look forward to meeting you next Sunday.

Would you mind making contact with Penny Capp- she is the publishers representative in Sydney and is organising some publicity regarding descendants of General Grant survivors. There will be a number of members of the Jewell family present. We would love to have you along at this event if you can make it?

Kindly contact Penny. Her email is :
penny@exislepublishing.com

Best regards, Ken

Re: ss Valencia 1906

aoutlaw11 — 2009-06-12 15:02:28Z

My grandfather's brpther William Holmes was aboard the SS Valencia according to family records I too am searching for a list of passengers and crew. Have you found anything? If you do please let me know. Thank you,
Anita Outlaw

Re: New web page - info on Sir William Phips, Concepcion treasure

vkmom22 — 2009-06-27 01:20:40Z

I know this was an old post. I am a decendent from Alden Jackson Phipps. I would be interested in receiving a copy of this information. my e-mail address is anita.onorato@gmail.com.

Thank you
Anita

Re: Three Bells (ship)

bapace2 — 2009-06-19 10:29:35Z

Try these.

For ships and masters
www.mightyseas.co.uk

Crew lists are held at the Memorial University, Newfoundland, Canada. Details
of holdings, research services, prices, etc at
http://www.mun.ca/mha/

http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/ShipsA.htm
Go to home & search

Also
www.theshipslist.com
Might have passenger or crew lists

If Welsh, try
www.welshmariners.org.uk OR
www.swanseamariners.org.uk

For American ships/ports, do a Google search for a site called Mystic Seaport (Conn.) if this doesn't work:
http://www.mysticseaport.org/

For Royal Navy
http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval_History/

You could try www.scotlandsfamily.com as they have some early passenger lists available on Scots.

Some master mariners available here, but incomplete as yet
http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm

http://www.irishshipwrecks.com

Go here to look for Crew Agreements
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnumview.php?OfficialN...

Betty Pace-- bapace2@juno.com