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FTM2012 Well-formed GEDCOMS

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Re: What about Roles / Associations?

Posted: 29 Dec 2011 9:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 29 Dec 2011 9:26AM GMT
@silverfox,

A well-formed GEDCOM has an "Association Structure" that associates individuals to individuals. This is a level 1 tag called "ASSO" defined as follows:

1 ASSO @XREF:INDI@
2 RELA "Relationship_Descriptor" example: godson
2 SOUR
2 NOTE

Unfortunatelly the GEDCOM standard never incorporated this structure into the "Event_Structure" so that an event could show who were witnesses of the event like a baptism, wedding or the officiant of the event etc. Many software programs (TMG, webtrees, etc) have added this structure to the event. While I don't use ASSO structure, I put this information in a NOTE tag, I would suspect FTM2012 would drop the additional event tag.

When creating a custom fact in FTM (in GEDCOM speak an individual has events and attributes) my experience is that the fact is developed as a 100% well-formed GEDCOM event and should transfer as such to TMG. Unfortumatelly FTM2012 only creates "EVENt" structures and not "FACT" (aka attribute) structures, for example.

1 EVEN
2 TYPE Land Lease
2 DATE 2 OCT 1837

An EVENt structure does not allow for a "descriptive value" while a FACT structure does allow a "descriptive value".

1 FACT baliff
2 TYPE civic appointment
2 DATE 2 OCT 1837

Where "TYPE" is a generic fact (similar to "birth") and the "descriptive value" is more specific. The FACT tag was added in the 5.5.1 draft release of the GEDCOM standard and is very valuable for these cases. Some programs will read this tag structure others will drop them. The FACT tag is dropped by FTM2012 (this blows I use the tag all the time), however, the EVEN tag (which technically can't have a description) does import, with and without the description.

EDIT: I'm not sure what a "Role" is, so I can't comment yet.

EDIT 2: ASSO tags are also dropped by FTM2012

EDIT 3: The biggest problem to date is that the RESN tag is dropped by FTM2012. This is the "Restriction" tag used for privacy of individuals and events/facts.
SubjectAuthorDate Posted
kj_norway 29 Dec 2011 4:02PM GMT 
silverfox3280 29 Dec 2011 5:57PM GMT 
padmin1 29 Dec 2011 6:18PM GMT 
kj_norway 29 Dec 2011 7:01PM GMT 
AGHatchett3rd 29 Dec 2011 8:08PM GMT 
kj_norway 29 Dec 2011 9:35PM GMT 
AGHatchett3rd 29 Dec 2011 8:12PM GMT 
Tommy Peterss... 9 Aug 2012 2:44PM GMT 
Tommy Peterss... 9 Aug 2012 2:31PM GMT 
kj_norway 12 Aug 2012 6:42PM GMT 
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