Master Genealogist (I hate the way it looks) is what I ended up using too. Generations has the best interface but with major problems now due to the OS unfortunately it's not safe anymore. A shame really. I had 8.5 plus I purchased the update and worked for years on P then one day got the typical error which must have been due to some kind of update. I reinstalled and of course could not find my patch anymore and the bug where info totally disappeared was SCARY so definitely time to move on. Trick was finding a converter. I had the English Version of Generations which was nice.