Second Site software - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Carriage Return in BMDB Sequence

rlstoy — 20 Aug 2008 11:09:29 GMT

This is a request for a modification in Second Site for the use of [CR] in BMDB events. At this time, the [CR] as used in TMG is honored by SS for all events. However, if the "BMDB First" box on Pages - Format is checked, this results in awkward paragraphing within this first paragraph under a person's name. Can [CR] be ignored if this box is checked for all BMDB events (and these events only)? That would make for a much improved flow of text.

If I have this wrong and am missing something, someone please let me know. Thanks for listening.

Error 13

slfate41 — 12 Apr 2008 1:36:09 GMT

I am receiving the following error from SS.

Second Site 2 Version 2.1 Build 03

Error 13 from SecondSite2 [LOC=12]
Type mismatch

I have TMG version 6 and 7, and have tried SS on datasets from both versions and receive the same message. I have used SS successfuly on the TMG v6 dataset for several years and just recently started receiving this error. Can someone help?

Compiler e-mail not functioning

skleist56 — 19 Mar 2008 3:26:56 GMT

First of all: Second Site is excellent, excellent excellent!
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When I click the compiler to send an e-mail, I get this message from Outlook,"The command line argument is not valid. Verify the switch you are using"

It use to work, but something I did must be causing the problem. If I create a new Site Definition I can get it to work, but I don't want to redo all my work with the new site defintion.

Thank you for your time.

www.visi.com/~skleist

Default Browser

martysgenes — 13 Nov 2007 3:31:37 GMT

I have tried everything I know to make Firefox my default browser for opening SS pages. It persists in bringing up IE.

Any suggestions?
Marty

Preferred census entry for Second site?

eandcw — 14 Aug 2007 6:50:02 GMT

I am a new user of SS.
My census entries in TMG to date have been inconsistent.
Originally due to limitations of my genealogy software I treated a census as a source, with the transcribed text of the census as a memo.
Upton changing to generations O switched and used census as an event in its own right, using Caroline's separate UK census tabs for UK census. I began to put the details in the Memo field of the tag. I copied the tag to each perspon present, regardless of their status in the household.

Recently I began to use the Witness and role facility and to enter children and other relatives present using the Witness/role facility.

Second site seems to show some "role" census appearances, sometimes without the place details.

How does SS handle roles such as son?
Are roles included in Witness events?
Are places included in witness events?

How do experienced users suggest that one enters censuses to get a clear report?
I'd be grateful for guidance.

web host advice please

jgstock1 — 18 Nov 2006 4:08:20 GMT

I am trying to create a personal genealogy site using second site software in hopes of contacting distant relatives who may have old photos, documents etc. I am now looking for a website host. I have tried my ISP "Charter.net" but I am not satisfied with their web host service - too slow, limited size etc. I am willing to pay a web host. IX web hosting in Hopkinsville, KY looks interesting though they are not genealogy oriented. Advice on web host appreciated.

Thanks

Jon

My census tag anomaly

MilneJL — 28 Mar 2007 9:23:45 GMT

In TGM I have the following 8 census tags:
census, census 1841, census 1851, census 1861, census 1871, census 1881, census 1891, census 1901.
In SS I have the following 8 census tags:
census, census 1841, census 1851, census 18511, census 18512, census 18513, census 185131, census 1851311.
Why does SS not show the same tags as TMG?
James

My "Name Variation" anomaly

MilneJL — 28 Mar 2007 9:37:42 GMT

I have checked the "name var" tag box in SS. I find that the name variation is included in the "name index" but when I click on the name and get to the person page there is no reference to the name variation. Anyone visiting the site might think they had been routed to the wrong person.
e.g. url of my site is http://www.jamesmilne-generations.dsl.pipex.com/index.htm.
John Alexander Grant and Leopald Grant are the same person but there is no mention of Leopald Grant being a name variation.
Could someone please tell me why the Name Variaton sentence not showing on my site?

Source Order on Source Pages

MilneJL — 27 Mar 2007 9:56:15 GMT

I have several source pages on my web site. The sources seem to be in no particular order in these pages, neither numerical nor alphabetical. I would like an option to display the sources in some kind of order, preferrable alphabetical so that similar sources are listed together. Would it be possible to include this feature in a future software issue. I have no knowledge of HTML programming nor do I wish to learn. My interest is in genealogy so please do not suggest I alter the program myself.

Exhibit starts at centre of web page and goes right (making scroll bars)

shaundm — 10 Dec 2006 8:58:04 GMT

I have just started uploading my exhibits. I have noticed that in SS all of mine seem to start in the centre of the page and go right (see example below). I would like them to all start on the left and only have the scroll bars if they are bigger than amount of screen shown. Therefore my question is, how do I get my exhibits justified to the left?
Thanks
Shaun
http://www.muddock.com/Muddock-p/e25.htm

folders/files second site generates

jgstock1 — 19 Nov 2006 7:05:26 GMT

Just used second site software to create a genealogy website on my hard drive. Exactly which folders and files need to be uploaded to a web host?

thanks

Jon

Uploading the whole NAME-p folder to web site, contains living photo's

shaundm — 15 Oct 2006 7:15:09 GMT

After I create my SS page, I upload the whole NAME-p folder to my website. I can therfore retain my other links to SS. I exclude living people and also people who do not want their family to be shown. Some of these living people have exhibits attached to them. Even though they are not shown on SS, the exhibits are contained within the NAME-p folder. Therfore the photo's (in my case birth certificates) are readable for hackers or someone delving into the folders. Is this correct, or should I do something other than deleting manually?
Thanks

Grid format, expanding on information given at end of person

shaundm — 5 Aug 2006 2:08:13 GMT

I am using the grid format, detail format use sentence. After a persons tags/events are shown, the children are listed at the end. My settings currently just list the children out as 1, 2, 3, 4...There is no explanation of text that says, Person 1 and Person 2 had the following children. Person 1 and Person 3 had the following children.

Is this possible? I have seen other sites with this so assume it is a standard setting/change, however I can not find it in help, etc.

Thanks

Children appear at bottom of person (started using roles?)

shaundm — 2 Aug 2006 3:04:07 GMT

I have been formating my data for sentence structures, however now in SS I get a list of children at the bottom of the person. Can I remove this as it makes it look untidy?

The info is as follows after the death tag:

Death* His death document has not been found.

1 Eliza Isabel Vizer (1817 - 9 Feb 1891)
1. Harriet Mary Muddock (1845 - 28 Sep 1851)2
2. Maria Muddock+ (6 Mar 1847 - 21 Nov 1926)1,2
3. Eliza Eva Muddock (17 Jan 1853 - 9 Sep 1869)1,2

2 (?) (?)
1. James Muddock+ (1861 - 14 Sep 1914)39

3 Nelly (?) (c 1843 - )
1. William Henry Muddock (May 1873 - 21 Feb 1874)2

4
1. (?) Muddock (27 May 1874 - )1

Icons - Showing what they mean

shaundm — 1 Aug 2006 4:17:26 GMT

I use the icons as i have a flag to show what branch people are in. I would like to show a key so that someone can click on the key so they can see what they all mean.

Is there an option to do this?

Run-time error 9 Subscript out of range

shaundm — 28 Jul 2006 7:29:10 GMT

I get this error message when trying to alter the Lists.

Any idea what it is or how to solve it please?

Thank you

Same photo width for all photo's

shaundm — 20 Jun 2006 11:08:17 GMT

I have some exhibits stored against a person, when you view them in SS, they are all different sizes. What I would like to do set them so that they are all, for example, the same width.
Thanks

Charts - Exclude living

shaundm — 18 Jan 2006 10:35:01 GMT

Is there a simple way to exclude living people from the charts? It is just a simple tick box on the main data but I can't see that option on the charts. Any way to do it other than using flags?
Thanks

Insert a blank line between people listed on the charts page

shaundm — 14 Jan 2006 4:31:16 GMT

Hi
I want to insert a blank line between people listed on my charts page. For example I want to have all the Descendant charts grouped together, then a line, then all the Pedigree charts together.
I want to alter the template so that I don't have to do it manually.
Thanks
Shaun

Tag type ref - Can you change what its called

shaundm — 10 Jan 2006 5:18:53 GMT

Hi

I have added a Tag Type in TMG 6 called Book. I originally copied the tag AFN. I have added some tags against a person, these being the books he has written.

However when I publish using SS, the tag is called AFN1 and not Book as I wuld like it, as shown by the following link (James Edward Muddock) http://www.muddock.com/Muddock-p/p89.htm#i20

Is it possible to change the text to read Book in lieu of AFN1?

Thanks

Citation Detail in Second Site

baragarose — 9 Jan 2006 6:43:04 GMT

I just can't get second site to show Citation Detail for the web pages. My biggest example is using ancestry.com as a source and I put the detail of the source such as what census year, etc...in TMG in the Citation Detail box and second site only will list the source as ancestry.com and no detail. Help! what am I doing wrong. I have tried all the options in the sources data section in second site.

website is: www.edwards1.com/rose/genealogy/secondsite/rose-p/index.htm

Charts - More than 25 generations

BuggyChin — 2 Jan 2006 10:56:48 GMT

I have drawn my charts which comprise more than 25 generations (as it goes back to 1030). I notice I can only show 25 generations. Is there any way to show more generations, or a way around it? As currently it just stops when reaching the 25th person

Adding duplicate title links

BuggyChin — 14 Dec 2005 6:54:26 GMT

When I click on the charts section, it displays the list of charts that I have available to select. Below the charts are the "Surname Index" link and the "Master Place Index" link. This is at the bottom of the page. How can I add this so that it is also at the top of the page.

It occurs at both the top and bottom of the "surname index page", which is what i want to copy.

This is the link to the page I am refering to.
http://www.muddock.com/MuddockList-p/chart_list.htm

Thanks

Changing the "# 123" to read "TMG ref 123"

BuggyChin — 14 Dec 2005 6:58:24 GMT

Hi
I want to amend the # which indicates the TMG ref, to read "TMG ref", I've seen where to do it before but can't find it anymore.
Thanks

Enabling more names (more than 25) before it says 'continued'

BuggyChin — 13 Dec 2005 8:31:06 GMT

Hi
On the link below under a particular name, Muddock for example. It lists out 25 first names after Muddock, then another 25 first names under the heading continued. I would like to put all people with the name Muddock under the same heading so that it doesn't say 'Continued'

Any ideas

Thanks

http://www.muddock.com/MuddockList-p/i2.htm#183

Removing the words "Person Page"

BuggyChin — 13 Dec 2005 8:28:05 GMT

Hi
I basically want to remove the words Person Page xx from my site. How do I do it? I have attached the link below to give an example of the text which occurs at the top of the page
Thanks

http://www.muddock.com/MuddockList-p/p11.htm#i668

Person Page 11

Transcription associated w/image exhibit

tlmccaughn — 11 May 2005 2:55:25 GMT

According to information on John's SS web page I should be able to do the following(as I understand it):

Link an external exhibit(image) to an event. ie., image1.jpg (that is an old handwritten leter)
Transcribe the content of image1.jpg. ie., image1.txt

When I create the website:
the event will have an icon link to the exhibit image (it does)

When the link is selected the image html page will appear (it does)

When the image appears it will be followed by the transcription (it doesn't)

I've got the latest version of SS.
the text file is in the same dir as the image.

The image template file contains this line:

<DIV CLASS=id><%=Wrapper("<SPAN CLASS=ic>", Exhibit.Caption, "<BR></SPAN>")%><%=Exhibit.ImageTag%></DIV>

Got any ideas?

Larry in Texas

Hit Counter

slfate41 — 6 Dec 2004 5:43:33 GMT

How do I include at hit counter on all of the persons pages?

Any way of sub-setting people without a flag?

Wes Klang — 28 Mar 2005 3:56:50 GMT

Rightly or wrongly - probably wrongly - my TMG database includes both my maternal and paternal ancestry trees as well as those of my wife's. I want to present only those ancestors in my maternal tree on my web page.

I have no problems controlling this with the descendant and pedigree charts, but am disconcerted that the Surname and Index lists contain ALL names in my database - maternal and paternal trees of both my and my wife's lines.

Is there a way to filter the input to the Surname and Index lists without having to apply a physical sort tag to each name?

Thanks,

Wes

Custom Tags

slfate41 — 6 Nov 2004 10:39:32 GMT

I've created custom tags for my census entries, but I can seems to get them to come out. It is selected on the Data/Database settings. Any ideas what I need to do to get them to output?

Could you post more details about this software, please.

Chris_HodgsonGen — 28 Mar 2005 3:55:22 GMT

Or a website with more info.

Where to find info on Second Site

darrell_a_martin — 14 Nov 2003 6:14:28 GMT

"Second Site" is a web site generator that works as an "add-on" to "The Master Genealogist" published by Wholly Genes. It is an extremely flexible and powerful tool, with features that go far beyond any similar program's.

Here is the link to the site maintained by the developer of Second Site, John Cardinal, that describes the software.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johncardinal/tmgsit...

There is a mailing list, SECONDSITE-L@rootsweb.com, that is devoted to the program. The developer and beta testers participate on this list, but it is open to the public. Messages posted to this message board also appear on SECONDSITE-L.

Darrell, board and list admin, SECONDSITE

Second Site to Front Page

captbuddy — 14 Oct 2003 8:50:08 GMT

Has anyone used a SS generated 'page' in Front Page? If so, anything to watch out for? Any clean up needed?

MCG

Date Display Format

Jack Truesdell — 7 Sep 2003 11:34:35 GMT

Is there any way to change the way the dates display in a narrative to read like: Sunday, April 8, 1956 instead of the default way of: Sunday, 8 April 1956.

If not, could this be added as a "wish-list" item.

Why is it sometimes the Narritive doesn't display?

Jack Truesdell — 3 Sep 2003 10:57:28 GMT

As a newbee, I seem to be having a problem when I go to preview a web page created. I get the exhibits, name of person but no narrative (showing the events, etc.) If I play around, eventually I get it showing, but I don't know how, and I keep changing options? Is their a bug or me? I am selecting Narrative style with Carla's Background.

Please - any help would be helpful before I pull my remaining hair out.

Thanks in Advance!

Upgrade problems

LovettLn — 31 Aug 2003 11:16:18 GMT

I'm getting two error messages after upgrading my Second site program.

SecondSite Version 1.4 Build 07

Error 91 from SecondSite [LOC=8]
Object variable or With block variable not set

SecondSite Version 1.4 Build 07

Error 429 from SecondSite [LOC=1]
ActiveX component can't create object

after which the program does nothing else and the only way out is to end process through windows task manger. Any help will be welcomed. Thanks!

Welcome, from the admin

forbarad — 11 Apr 2002 5:45:40 GMT

Hi:

Welcome to the "Second Site" board. Please take the time to check out the Links & Announcements page for information on how I intend to admin the board (with a light touch, by the way).

Darrell