USHMM Records - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Lodz/gender column mistake

katerimmer — 2013-06-17 18:52:36Z

I think you may need to contact WAP support to ask them for the official answer on this one but unless you hear something different from them, I would say key what is shown on the form.

Lodz/gender column mistake

mieszkow — 2013-06-17 18:45:23Z

Could someone adress this question from project discussion page:

"Q; if the Männlich and Weiblich have obviously been put in the opposite columns but the writer has not changed it at the top as they sometimes do, do I key as seen or change to the correct sex? (...)"?

Some time ago I had a set where the writer mixed up Männlich and Weiblich columns. I dislike to enter obviously incorrect information but I decided to key as seen. Now that I see there're more sets like this, I would like to know someone's else opinion.

Re: USHMM-UK, Holocaust..Religious Society of Friends...

afechter1 — 2013-05-18 12:59:22Z

Are you saying they are only seen as J R P, or something like that? So no indicator of any full name but you know that they were victims/survivors - if so, yes, key a record with just the initials.

And yes, because this is a student project those who volunteered to arbitrate we are asking that you key only a few image sets to familiarise yourself with the project.

Re: Odessa Birthplaces

kelandlinda — 2013-05-18 02:13:55Z

Thanks Paul. I thought as much, but wanted to check.

Re: Odessa Birthplaces

Paulmd199 — 2013-05-18 01:08:50Z

I don't really know since I'm not working the project at the moment, but I would default to key as seen, including the commas, the numbers, and the per.

Re: Odessa Birthplaces

kelandlinda — 2013-05-17 23:38:28Z

Does anyone have an answer for the above query?
I now have another list of over 30 names and would like to get it right.
Thanks in advance,
Linda

Re: USHMM-UK, Holocaust..Religious Society of Friends...

Elisabeth_Power — 2013-05-14 21:06:41Z

... I have also been wondering about this...

Re: USHMM-UK, Holocaust..Religious Society of Friends...

wiedwoman — 2013-05-14 17:14:48Z

You're right Kate. We are only to key a few to familiarize ourselves to be able review the project.

Re: USHMM-UK, Holocaust..Religious Society of Friends...

katerimmer — 2013-05-14 13:43:23Z

I may have this all wrong, but I thought this was one of the student projects and that those of us who have volunteered to arbitrate them were only supposed to key them "sparingly" to familiarise ourselves with them?

USHMM-UK, Holocaust..Religious Society of Friends...

pjfogarty — 2013-05-14 13:25:40Z

I'm running across some individuals who are only identified by their initials. Should I key what I see or ignore them?

Re: USHMM, Poland, Lotz Ghetto Worker ID Cards

pjfogarty — 2013-05-12 17:21:27Z

That worked; thanks!

Re: USHMM, Poland, Lotz Ghetto Worker ID Cards

Paulmd199 — 2013-05-12 16:27:30Z

Call it an information card. Key what you can from it.

USHMM, Poland, Lotz Ghetto Worker ID Cards

pjfogarty — 2013-05-12 14:45:11Z

I have a card which doesn't seem to fit any category. Yet this card contains a name, address, birth, occupation, etc. (no family members though). The information is given line by line. The header is "Evidenzkarte Nr."

USHMM, Poland, Lotz Ghetto Worker ID Cards

pjfogarty — 2013-05-12 14:45:11Z

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Re: World Memory Project Update

katzmmeeooww — 2013-05-03 02:50:38Z

I was very impressed with this museum when I visited about 10 years ago. Definitely worth a visit if you want to learn more.

Re: World Memory Project Update

Elisabeth_Power — 2013-05-02 06:08:18Z

Wow 2 million records keyed and a 168 million records to go, if all records held by the museum are going to be keyed by ancestry volunters.

Re: World Memory Project Update

Paulmd199 — 2013-05-01 15:30:29Z

From Google

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The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is the United States' official memorial to the Holocaust. Adjacent to the National Mall in Washington, D.C., the USHMM provides for the documentation, study, and interpretation of Holocaust history.
Opened: April 22, 1993
Hours:
Wednesday hours 10:00 am–5:30 pm - See all
Address: 100 Raoul Wallenberg Pl SW, Washington, DC 20024
Phone: (202) 488-0400
Architectural styles: Modern architecture, Georgian, Neoclassical architecture
Architect: James Ingo Freed

Re: World Memory Project Update

sbloom37 — 2013-05-01 14:28:57Z

Where is the museum?

Re: USHMM-Poland, Lodz Inhabitant List

pjfogarty — 2013-04-30 01:10:08Z

Thanks. No alias field but will know what to do when there is!

Re: USHMM-Poland, Lodz Inhabitant List

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-30 00:28:03Z

vel, I think it's actually Latin not Polish, which is why the v.

Yes, you can use the name after vel as an alias surname for projects with an alias field.

USHMM-Poland, Lodz Inhabitant List

pjfogarty — 2013-04-30 00:03:43Z

What does the v. stand for in, e.g., Smith v. Johnson under the surname column? Maybe an alias name?

Re: USHMM Krakow Names

rainbow46uk — 2013-04-29 06:16:54Z

Thank you

Re: USHMM Krakow Names

Elisabeth_Power — 2013-04-28 19:10:00Z

If there is an alias field we key the first surname into the name field and the second surname into the alias surname field. If there is no alias field, only the first surname is captured.

World Memory Project Update

worldarchivesproject — 2013-04-28 18:39:43Z

We recently hit a huge milestone for the World Memory Project - the contribution of 2 million records!!

Currently I am in the Museum preparing for the 20th Anniversary event occurring today and tomorrow. Having the opportunity to walk through the exhibits and see the pictures and the emotions that come along with that brings the importance of the contributions being made by our community to a higher level. It is one thing to research your own family history but then to turn around and give of your time to contribute by indexing records that will help others find their families is amazing and inspiring.

Time is of the essence to bring the records from the victims and survivors of the Holocaust to those who are still alive and looking to find word of what happened to their family and friends. These records are not always the easiest to read and interpret but the difference that your contributions will make is untold. If you are curious about the World Memory Project and what difference your contributions could make please watch one of our videos, http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJye3JJV24onzDmjoYi1_c....

I am passionate about the World Archives Project and the World Memory Project for many reasons (love of family and history, desire to help others, wanting to make a difference, ...) and would love to hear from you why you participate.

Thank you for all that you contribute, for you skills, passion and desire to give to such a wonderful project!

USHMM Krakow Names

rainbow46uk — 2013-04-28 15:15:32Z

Hi, when keying some documents there are 2 surnames listed for some people with the letter r. between them. Do I key them both in the surname field or put one in the alias field?

Thanks, Susan

Re: Krakau Part 4 Changes

Elisabeth_Power — 2013-04-23 14:43:19Z

Ergänzungsbogen: instructions for the head of the household only key name, first name and "head" for household member. I have seen quite a few that also had entered Krakau as residence and no for Photo.

On this form the primary person his the person below the head of the household and residence and photo relate to that person.

To assume when it says "Aufenthalt abgelehnt" there is no Kennkarte is correct. A Kennkarte was only issued when the persons application was succesful ie "genehmigt".
So far I have seen none as "genehmigt" in part IV.

Czech selected records - Rejects

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-23 04:58:56Z

You may nave noticed that all of a sudden there are quite a few of these to key. I unfortunately had to reject a large number that quite simply weren't keyed at all. I suspect --I hope-- they were all the same person. He just keyed the header, but nothing beyond that.

So if you missed these, there's more to do.

Batches numbered below about #800 will be arbitrated, and above that will be a-review.

Czech selected records - Common errors

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-18 18:09:25Z

The most common error relates to the month field. Nearly every set so has this problem.

The instructions ask for months only in a particular format. Which is in bold.

Re: Czech_Republic, Selected_Jewish_Holocaust_Records-Names

katerimmer — 2013-04-18 07:19:11Z

I think this thread is about the same question?

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/wap.ushmm/181/mb.ashx

Also this one:
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/wap.ushmm/161/mb.ashx

Re: Czech_Republic, Selected_Jewish_Holocaust_Records-Names

family29hunter — 2013-04-18 00:34:07Z

When this project first came out, there was discussion about keying the principal name versus all the names, with other keyers saying that's what they were going to do, so I thought it would be alright to do so. Silly me.

Re: Czech_Republic, Selected_Jewish_Holocaust_Records-Names

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-17 22:58:14Z

That said, if I somehow manage to get two keyers to extract all the names from a paragraph form document, I don't really see a need to delete all the extras.

:)

Re: Czech_Republic, Selected_Jewish_Holocaust_Records-Names

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-17 02:58:07Z

There is one common long form we want to extract all names from. It's 29 questions and typically spans 3-4 pages.

It has the header

Dotazník [Questionnaire]

and Subheaders
údaje o žadateli. [information about the applicant]
údaje o jeho rodičích. [information about his parents]
údaje o jeho prarodičích. [information about his grandparents]

údaje o manželce-manželova /a jejich/jeho předcích [information about the wife-husband / and their / his ancestors]

údaje o dětech a sourozencích žadatele/rozvětvení rodiny/. [data on children and siblings of the applicant / extended family /.]

Jiné údaje o žadateli [Other information about the applicant]

Prohlášení žadatele [declaration by the applicant]

Re: Czech_Republic, Selected_Jewish_Holocaust_Records-Names

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-17 00:04:09Z

The intention was to make things easier on the keyers by not making them translate large bodies of text in paragraph form. It's not a direction I particularly like. Since I feel that if we have to read enough of an entry in paragraph form to extract birth date and place of the primary person, we might as well get the rest of the family. But I am constrained to arbitrate according to directions.

We do want to extract all names from preprinted forms and tables.

Re: Czech_Republic, Selected_Jewish_Holocaust_Records-Names

katerimmer — 2013-04-16 21:47:25Z

The directions don't say to key only the primary person on all images. This only applies to "records such as correspondence, biographies, narratives, or other documents that do not consist of pre-printed forms and would otherwise require translating and reading through a block of text".

So if you have a pre-printed form you key all the names. Or if you have a list of names which are not in a block of text.

Czech_Republic, Selected_Jewish_Holocaust_Records-Names

family29hunter — 2013-04-16 19:43:17Z

The directions say to key only the primary person, yet the paragraph above says, "Key any other names, such as family members, as unique records". What does that mean, 'any other names'?

Re: clarifying how to transcribe addresese

annafechter — 2013-04-13 19:45:16Z

Since there will contributors keying who may not be familiar with the geography of the area we were attempting to make keying the address more simple. ;)

If you encounter records where the entire address is in one field key what is in that field. If the address is broken down into different components key only the city and/or district.

Re: clarifying how to transcribe addresese

sheehawkins — 2013-04-13 16:08:35Z

that is how I was reading it, but it is very ambiguous and as many of the keyers have transcribed the whole address perhaps it needs clarifying. I feel bad that I'm having to mark somebody's transcription wrong when the guidelines are not clear

Re: clarifying how to transcribe addresese

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-13 14:57:31Z

The tone of the directions seems to say that they are not wanting the street address.

Re: clarifying how to transcribe addresese

sheehawkins — 2013-04-13 11:11:01Z

I agree it is confusing isn't it. I'll wait and see what others think

Re: clarifying how to transcribe addresese

katerimmer — 2013-04-13 11:05:15Z

Hmm, looks quite complicated. The instructions say:

"Key the person's residence location. This may be an address, city, region, or other jurisdiction. A residence may be indicated by words such as "Present address of residence in the United Kingdom," "Place of residence of husband (wife) in Great Britain," "Address," "Adresa," or "District of domicile." If a street address and city or district of residence are listed in separate fields, only key the city and/or district as the residence and do not key the street address."

So this seems to be saying that if the street address and city are all listed in the same field, you would key the whole thing. But I haven't done much on this particular project - would need someone who is in the know to confirm this!

Re: clarifying how to transcribe addresese

sheehawkins — 2013-04-13 10:49:13Z

sorry ....Czech Republic, Social Welfare and Repatriation Records of Holocaust Survivors, 1939-1948

Re: clarifying how to transcribe addresese

katerimmer — 2013-04-13 10:44:08Z

Which particular USHMM project are you asking about, please? Some of them require full address and others just the city.

clarifying how to transcribe addresese

sheehawkins — 2013-04-13 09:15:39Z

I've come back to helping with this project after a bit of a break, so I'm lacking a bit of confidence in my own understanding of the rules.
I'm arbitrating the USHMM records at the moment and am noticing that many of the discrepancies occur around how the addresses are keyed. The first person will key the whole address ...15 Bloggs Street, London, NW and the second person will key it as just London NW. I've read the help files and the way I understand it keyer 2 is correct, but as so many people seem to have keyed the whole address I thought I better check ;-)

Re: Krakau Part 4 Changes

DiscoveringMyRoots — 2013-04-12 00:15:34Z

@Paulmd199 and katerimmer I do have a question on the Ergän forms concerning the ID issued date: I have yet to find an instance where the words "Kennakrte auszugeben am" were present (even allowing for the typo in the directions) I am curious if another date is being substituted in review... or if it's something else.

My understanding is that if the aufenthalt was abgelehnt, then they were not issued an ID (kennkarten nr) number. I did not see any given while keying Krakow part 3 and I have not seen any so far while keying part 4.

Re: Krakau Part 4 Changes

DiscoveringMyRoots — 2013-04-11 23:47:13Z

@Paulmd199 and katerimmer My other question on the Ergän form concerns the Residence of the head of household. I have been taking that from the Line immediately below Familienvorstand, reading Wohnung. I have not been keying the street address, But have typically just been keying Krakau. Is this correct?

The only fields I have been keying for head of household is given name, surname, and relationship (Head). In the instructions it says for residence location, Key the residence in question #5 from the field labeled "genaue Wohnung: Ort." Genaue Wohnung: Ort only appears farther down and it only concerns the primary person or relative on the form. Also when we were keying Krakow part 2, any photos that were attached to these forms were taken of only the primary person or relative. So I have also been leaving that field blank for the head of household.

Re: Krakau Part 4 Changes

katerimmer — 2013-04-11 16:48:29Z

That's right as far as I know, Paul.

I have seen a few where the keyer has keyed an ID issued date when they shouldn't have, but not the other way round. But I think most of the image sets that you keyed were reviewed by other people while I was asleep!

There are a few tricky rules about which fields are keyed as seen and which have to be standardised, that catch some people out - years should be keyed as seen if they are 2 digits or 4 digits (inevitably some are written as 3 digits on the image!), marital status should be expanded to the full word but nationality is to be keyed as seen. Also if they have lived in Krakau "seit geburt" or similar, this should be keyed into the "lived in Krakow since - year" field but I have seen some where the keyer keyed it in the day field instead.

Re: Krakau Part 4 Changes

Paulmd199 — 2013-04-11 15:48:10Z

I'm trying to track down a lower than hoped for accuracy (excellent, I suppose I shouldn't whine too much),

I do have a question on the Ergän forms concerning the ID issued date: I have yet to find an instance where the words "Kennakrte auszugeben am" were present (even allowing for the typo in the directions) I am curious if another date is being substituted in review... or if it's something else.

My other question on the Ergän form concerns the Residence of the head of household. I have been taking that from the Line immediately below Familienvorstand, reading Wohnung. I have not been keying the street address, But have typically just been keying Krakau. Is this correct?

Re: Krakau Part 4 Changes

mieszkow — 2013-04-11 11:43:51Z

Very happy to see it in the instruction as well. It was the first thing I checked for.

Krakau Part 4 Changes

DiscoveringMyRoots — 2013-04-11 04:36:47Z

So happy to see that the keying instructions to Krakau part 4 have been changed and simplified. Hopefully now it will be a lot clearer for keyers and arbitrators.

1) There is a second page of the Ergänzungsbogen, which contains the signature of the primary person.No information will be keyed from this page. It is to be classified as "Cover Page"
2) For images where the left and right side pages have been separated, only the left side page (the side that lists the names), should be classified as a "Household Member List." The right-side page should be classified as "Cover Page."

Hopefully everybody takes the time to read over the new instruction page before keying and arbitrating.

Re: USHMM – Poland, Lòdz Ghetto Register Books

katerimmer — 2013-04-10 10:04:41Z

No, the ones I can remember seeing with K in the gender columns, some have it in one column, some in the other, and a lot of the time there is also a check mark or horizontal line to show the actual gender, often in the other box from the one with the K in it. And usually there is a K for most or all people on the page, men, women and children.